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Sunday, 1 April 2012

A demonstration of how nationalists are their own worst enemy


This was what started as a light-hearted discussion that generated into the unfriending of me by the wife of the leader of the British People's Party.

By publicising this exchange I do not feel I am betraying a confidence, since Facebook is semi-public anyway and I know my walls are regularly mined for information and used as a notice board amongst nationalists.

All who write on my walls should know this by now.

This exchange demonstrates:

1.  the self-destructive tendencies and the essential immaturity of the ethno-nationalists, as well as their divisions.

2.  the havoc caused by an interfering woman who is not even a member.

3.  that not everyone is made for politics  (The "Far Right" may have their strong views about Jews, Muslims and foreigners but they mostly lack the background, character and temperament for the sustained effort of politicking.  There is already a dearth of talent in the big parties anyway, so it should not surprise you to learn that this is even worse in the smaller Eurosceptic parties whose members are conscripted by their grievance.  Politics is a vocation, because only someone who has a calling would wish to undergo the thankless task of standing up for principles and then being shot in the back by the very people you had thought are supposed to be on the same side as you.)

4.  political activism is not about attending anti-Islam demos the odd weekend, having a day out with your mates and a drink afterwards

5.  politics is about getting the balance right between standing for your principles and yielding where you must

6.  politics is about sustained effort that permeates all your life and thinking and David Jones, the BPP Town Council candidate for 3 May, is the only nationalist I have met so far who understands this at both a theoretical and practical level.  He certainly does not deserve to have his efforts denigrated by someone who is supposed to be on his side and who is not even a member of the party.

THE POST YESTERDAY THAT LED TO THE ROW

Shit-Stirring but Frequently Helpful FB Friend LG
Rumour has it in the political scene that you are vigorously keen to join this movement. Will you please confirm it, Claire? I do know you have been considering this http://www.greensocialist.org.uk/ags/  for some time.

LG
Do you think you and Kev [leeader of the BPP] might consider an electoral pact with the Alliance for Green Socialism, Kathleen [wife of leader]?
14 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
If I were allowed to join the BPP, it would create quite a stir, wouldn't it? Hmmmmmm ....
14 hours ago · Like ·  1

Claire Khaw
The BPP would get a bit of publicity .... The NF would throw stones at BPP members, probably, and beat them with sticks, but it would be so much fun!
14 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
 ‎It would be so nice if Dave [Jones of Todmorden] and I could be in the same party!!
14 hours ago · Like ·  1

Claire Khaw
I think that is a lovely idea!
14 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
Kate and Kev and Dave and Claire all in the same party - racial harmony!

Imagine: Searchlight praising us and Hope Not Hate interviewing us ...
14 hours ago · Like

Kathleen Watty
I don't!!
14 hours ago · Like

LG
I think you'd generate attention to and interest in the party, given your wide readership. Kev used to meet with a Muslim to share information, united by their common anti-Zionism, so he isn't as closed-minded as he might appear.

Claire has been an EXCELLENT influence on David! He understands the value of unity and compromise for the long-term, wider cause, while remaining principled and relentless in maintaining his racialist views. Dave and his ilk are the best chance White Nationalism has in Britain.
14 hours ago · Unlike ·  1

Claire Khaw
Oh, please, please, please can I join the BPP, Kate? Can't we have multi-racial National Socialism?
14 hours ago · Like ·  1

Claire Khaw
Pretty please?
14 hours ago · Like

LG
Go on, Kate! Give her Honorary Aryan status, a privilege created just for her. She could even sign a document under your auspices agreeing to repatriate herself should the BPP seize power!
14 hours ago · Unlike ·  1

Claire Khaw
I promise that everything I do in British politics will be to help the white race!
13 hours ago · Like ·  1

Claire Khaw
Do you doubt my sincerity, Kathleen?????
13 hours ago · Like

LG
You should send an e-mail to Kevin Watmough with your offer to join as an Honorary Aryan willing to repatriate herself. Copy and paste the e-mail to your blog and then publicise his response. If not fruitful, the exchange will at least be humorous.
13 hours ago · Unlike ·  2

Claire Khaw
I will let Kate discuss this with Kev in her own time. I do understand the delicacy of the matter.
13 hours ago · Like

LG
http://www.democratic-republicans.us/english/english-non-whites-who-love-adolf-helpful-white-american-rancher-shot-dead-by-mexicans

ENGLISH Non-whites who love Adolf; helpful white American rancher shot dead by Mexicans
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13 hours ago · Like ·

LG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxCzwz7zTco&skipcontrinter=1

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13 hours ago · Like ·

LG
Kevin and Kate ought to know that they have nothing to fear with your membership of and co-operation with the BPP. The Führer's beliefs and actions can serve as a precedent for this.
13 hours ago · Unlike ·  1

Claire Khaw
‎"I promise that everything I do in British politics will be to help the white race, while being fair and just to the other races who are British citizens." There.
13 hours ago · Like

Kathleen Watty
Yes Claire, do email Kev and enquire! I'd be most interested in his response!
13 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
I thought you might put a good word in for me, Kathleen!
13 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw We will be on the cover of THE ROLLING STONE!
13 hours ago · Like ·  1

Kathleen Watty
I'm too fat for such publications!
13 hours ago · Like

Kathleen Watty
Haha Watty just said well she can apply but I'm keeping the money hahaha!!!! What a typical Yorkshireman's response!
13 hours ago · Like ·  1

David MountainMan Jones
You lot eh?
12 hours ago · Like

LG
Would you be happy for Claire to join the BPP, David?
12 hours ago · Like

David MountainMan Jones
Not if it would cause this kind of ruckus, I'm happy to explore ways of working with her on the internet. It would not be politic for me to say but I favour a restructuring that allows non whites to be active official supporters while keeping a white party
12 hours ago · Like

Kathleen Watty
It is akin to a capital punishment favouring party welcoming support from murderers. I like Claire but she has no place in or around the BPP.
12 hours ago · Like

David MountainMan Jones
Maybe not in but around is another matter.
12 hours ago · Unlike ·  1

David MountainMan Jones
That around is an open question for me. Do I stop a black man  from voting for me, displaying my poster, telling people to vote for me. Around is such a loose term.
12 hours ago · Like

David MountainMan Jones
What if the Capital Punishment Party decides it wants an assasin?
12 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
Votes are votes are votes are votes.
11 hours ago · Like ·  1

Kathleen Watty
You can't stop anyone from voting for you Dave. But kissing their arse to facilitate it is a no-go.
11 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
I think it is about kissing the minimum number of arses to get where you want. You always have to kiss *some* arse.
11 hours ago · Like ·  1

Kathleen Watty
Non-white arse is not kissable when you're in the BPP.
11 hours ago · Like ·  1

Claire Khaw So the BPP doesn't care about getting anywhere in politics?
11 hours ago · Like ·  1

Claire Khaw
Apart from forcible repatriation of every non-white arse, what else does the BPP want?
11 hours ago · Like

Kathleen Watty
The BPP is happy to progress as it is without kissing non-white arse. They are principled racialists.
11 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
Apart from forcible repatriation of every non-white arse, what else does the BPP want?
11 hours ago · Like

Kathleen Watty
Www.bpp.org.uk - there is plenty of information on there, Claire. Or you could of course ask the leader!
11 hours ago
· Like

Claire Khaw
I just wondered what YOU consider important, Kathleen.
11 hours ago · Like

Kathleen Watty
I'm not a member.
11 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
But surely you have your views on what is the next important thing after repatriation, whether or not you are a member?
11 hours ago · Like

Kathleen Watty
I believe they should focus on issues such as the elderly freezing and starving to death while the government hands over millions in foreign aid for a start. They need policies which everyone can relate to.
10 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
I don't understand why you have not merged with the NF. In what regard do you differ in political objectives?
10 hours ago · Like

Kathleen Watty
To be honest I'm not au fait with NF policies. BPP are openly national socialist, NF aren't I don't think? There are subtle differences but of late the two are working well alongside each other.
10 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
You are not getting anywhere, are you?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/feedarticle/10171849


It won't be long before the very existence of parties like the BPP will be deemed to incite racial hatred.

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10 hours ago · Like ·  1 ·

Kathleen Watty
Then we have a lot in common, Claire.
10 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
About not getting anywhere? Well, I try to get round things and not do more of the same.
10 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
Ultimately, I will get somewhere because I already get the publicity *in my own right*.
10 hours ago · Like

Kathleen Watty
Whatever your tactics, they are not working. You're still as much a nobody as you were, you just don't accept it. You're an Internet nuisance, that's about it.
10 hours ago · Like ·  1

Claire Khaw
We shall see, won't we, Kathleen? Being an Internet nuisance will have to do for the moment.
10 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
The important thing is that I am known to a wide range of people, eg nationalists, Muslims, Jews, Labour, Tories, UKIP etc. My range is rather wider than being occasionally mentioned in Searchlight and Hope Not Hate.
10 hours ago · Like

Kathleen Watty
There have been parliament debates about Kevin's activities. You do follow politicians on Twitter but it just doesn't have the same ring to it.
10 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
I'll have a Google.
10 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_People%27s_Party_(2005)


Well, I *nearly* had a Wikipedia entry to myself.

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10 hours ago · Like ·

Kathleen Watty
Why don't you just write your own?! I think that is what everyone does anyway. I don't think Kev has a Wikipedia entry.
10 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
No, he hasn't. Writing my own would be far too egotistical. I like to think that one day someone will write it for me.
10 hours ago · Like ·  1

Kathleen Watty
Ask LG to - problem solved.
10 hours ago · Like ·  1

Claire Khaw
I don't think I have done anything noteworthy yet except causing nationalists to have a hissy fit at me.
10 hours ago · Like

Kathleen Watty
Agreed.
10 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
Still, it's a start!
10 hours ago · Like

David MountainMan Jones
I have never kissed anyones arse in my life, not Kevs, not my Dogs, not Claires, not Black voters, not yours, not the NF's (definently not theirs) i am my own man and always will remain so.
10 hours ago · Like ·  1

Kathleen Watty
Dave why are you STILL slagging the NF?
10 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
Is being nice to people and saying "May I rely on your vote?" kissing arse??
10 hours ago · Like

Kathleen Watty
Depends who they are.
10 hours ago · Like

David MountainMan Jones
Because they treat me like shit, i repeat i am my own man. Not bound by any proclamation or decree. I spent my life being treat like shit and taken for granted and won't allow people to get away with it just cos its politically convenient.
10 hours ago · Like

David MountainMan Jones
I don't mind offering to help somebody who i'm asking to pay my wages. If I was a councillor my duty would be to the town, not just as an ambassador for nationalism.
10 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
Huh. The ethnos can't even unite amongst themselves. I don't think they are being serious at all. They are *playing* at politics.
10 hours ago · Like

David MountainMan Jones
When you stand for election you are asking for the priveledge of representing the town you live in. You are not there to massage your own idelogical dogmas or grandstand in front of the movement. Such councillors do not usually last long. Its a job.
9 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
It is just a *hobby* for them, especially the ones who go on demos. That is how Kate and Kev can afford to "stick to their principles" and not "sell out".
9 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
Therein lies the difference. Dave is trying his best to get on in the arena of real politics and elections. If you care for the white race you should be encouraging him for all his hard work instead of demoralising him.
9 hours ago · Like ·  1

Claire Khaw
He is the most dedicated white nationalist I have met IMHO.
9 hours ago · Like ·  1

Kathleen Watty
As opposed to Claire who sits in her spare room posting shite on forums and getting banned from meetings?
9 hours ago · Like ·  1

Claire Khaw
He has stuck to his principles more than, say, Eddy Butler, in an increasingly difficult environment.
9 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
I don't mind being banned from meetings after discovering what a waste of time they are. It is just a bunch of old dinosaurs getting together to chew the cud while they whinge about the government and Jews.
9 hours ago · Like ·  1

Claire Khaw
They actually don't want new ideas and new people because it is too unsettling for these old codgers! What can you do with people like that? They just want to whinge at meetings, and, er, that's it ....
9 hours ago · Like

David MountainMan Jones
I try to do my best and struggle to comprehend the arguing, your dammned if you do and dammned if you don't.
9 hours ago · Like

Kathleen Watty
Perhaps you could fund his political campaigns, Claire? Put your money where your mouth is?
9 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
Why would I fund a member of a party that won't even let me join it, Kathleen? Do you take me for a mug?
9 hours ago · Like

Kathleen Watty
If you so fervently support Dave, then do something to help him. Leaflets etc all need paying for.
9 hours ago · Like

David MountainMan Jones
Kate if this arguing continiues i'll find a way of funding my own campaigns and save you both the bother of having this argumen. As I see it now my campaign is invaluable to todmorden, nationalism, the bpp and my consience.
9 hours ago · Like ·  1

Claire Khaw
Are you sure Kev wants you to pick fights with Dave, Kathleen?
9 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
I am not really sure what you even think you are doing picking fights with people who are supposed to be on your side. What are you trying to achieve anyway?
9 hours ago · Like ·  1

David MountainMan Jones
I don't want to pick a fight with anybody but i am no mug either. Kev and I work well together I just wish more people would take Town Hall electoral politics seriously and not nurse fantasies of a Munich Putcsh, which also failed by the way.
9 hours ago · Like

Kathleen Watty
I am certain that the cause of most of the arguments is you, Claire. Constant tagging, wondering what me or Kev thinks. You're a shit stirrer, this is entertainment for you Claire. You spend your days trying to cause arguments, it is your little hobby. Well no more with me. I'm not playing your puerile games. You can piss off.
9 hours ago · Like

Claire Khaw
I asked because I was genuinely interested to know your views. Anyway, LG started this thread, and you just came over without anyone tagging you!
9 hours ago · Like ·  1

David MountainMan Jones Kate
I thought you'd credit me with more intelligence than that. I am not "bad influenced", as you earlier suggested, by anybody. This rows been mainly about me and i've an intensive election to fight so i'm bowing out of this argument. Can it.
9 hours ago · Like ·  1

David MountainMan Jones
Any facebook friend is entitled to discuss me if i don't like it i block them.
9 hours ago · Like

Kathleen Watty
Well you and Claire can continue your "friendship" in any manner you please. She's a shit stirrer and you seem to support her digs Dave so that's that.
9 hours ago · Like



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