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Friday, 26 April 2013

How I would deal with Ann-Marie Crampton if I were UKIP Press Officer

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-22303637


"UKIP is a libertarian and patriotic party, and it would be incumbent on such a party to defend free speech.   

While Ms Crampton's remarks will be considered offensive to Zionists, UKIP is neutral on Israel and will do nothing to harm or help Israel. This statement cannot be reasonably doubted since UKIP is a party of protest without a single elected Member of Parliament.   

In any event, nothing Ms Crampton has said satisfies the elements of Holocaust Denial.   


While it is a crime in most EU Member States to deny the Holocaust, it is not a crime to do so in Britain, and Ms Crampton is a British citizen on British soil.  

It is the view of UKIP that the crime of Holocaust Denial do Jews a disservice, making them feared and hated and the subject of conspiracy theories.   As a libertarian party we would campaign against any law that unreasonably restricts free speech on a subject that is very much live and the subject of continuing historical investigation.   A law that criminalises British citizens and British historians for saying a number under five million as the number of Jews killed by Nazis is clearly oppressive and a disgrace to any nation that claims to subscribe to liberal values of free speech.

Six million (the number Ms Crampton mentioned) does not fall within the category of Holocaust Denial, even if that were a crime in Britain, and it is not.

The suspension of Ms Crampton is hereby withdrawn.  She remains the Crowborough UKIP candidate."



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1. Did Ann-Marie Crampton deny the Holocaust?

2. Is Holocaust Denial a crime in Britain?

3. Should Ann-Marie Crampton be punished even if she did not deny the Holocaust?

4. Is Nigel Farage a moral coward?

5. Do we know for certain Ann-Marie Crampton would not be elected councillor if she were allowed to represent UKIP in Crowborough?

6. Are there more people pissed off with the Tories in Crowborough or more people pissed off with Ann-Marie Crampton not denying the Holocaust?

7. Are UKIP afraid of Jews and/or Zionists?

8. If UKIP are afraid of Jews and/or Zionists, should they be?

9. Are UKIP members who want to dump Ann-Marie Crampton cowards and hypocrites?

10. Is UKIP afraid of defending the principle of free speech?

11. Is a party that claims to be libertarian cowardly and hypocritical if it does not support the right of Ann-Marie Crampton to express her views about Zionism without punishing her for them?

12. Would it do UKIP any good to punish Ann-Marie Crampton?

13. Would it do UKIP any harm to take a stand against Zionists instead of kowtowing to them all the time?

4 comments:

Tapestry said...

The party cannot allow the media the free attack this provides, no matter what the injustice, the rights, the wrongs etc.

It's a shame she embarked on the '6 million' thing. The point she was trying to make about WW2 being a pre-planned hoax was very interesting. The secret for the curious who want to stand for office is to avoid headline-grabbing slogans, and just state that the official of history doesn't make sense. Be known as a curious, enquiring mind - and avoid the conspiracy label.

Claire Khaw said...

I really don't see the problem. UKIP could make the point that even if elected she will not be in a position to implement the Final Solution on Zionists or anything of the sort. It is just insane that UKIP cannot even bring itself to tell everyone to calm down, shut up and let the people of Crowborough decide.

Anonymous said...

...Or candidates for elections could just avoid making hateful, vile comments or having ridiculous conspiracy theories about any minority group? UKIP have so far had candidates come out of the wood work who blame victims for rape, say a man cannot rape his wife, so that gay marriage causes floods, that disabled babies should be put down, legalise enforced abortions for babies with DS, that homosexuality is akin to bestiality and paedophila.... I could go on. They're slowly revealing themselves to be repugnant, racist, anti-semitic, misogynistic.... basically they hate anyone other than straight white men. Unfortunately, the more stories come out, the more twisted idiots agree with them. They're a dangerous party that could destroy this country if people keep seeing them as a 'protest vote'.

Anonymous said...

...Or candidates for elections could just avoid making hateful, vile comments or having ridiculous conspiracy theories about any minority group? UKIP have so far had candidates come out of the wood work who blame victims for rape, say a man cannot rape his wife, so that gay marriage causes floods, that disabled babies should be put down, legalise enforced abortions for babies with DS, that homosexuality is akin to bestiality and paedophila.... I could go on. They're slowly revealing themselves to be repugnant, racist, anti-semitic, misogynistic.... basically they hate anyone other than straight white men. Unfortunately, the more stories come out, the more twisted idiots agree with them. They're a dangerous party that could destroy this country if people keep seeing them as a 'protest vote'.