tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post4224081011919433396..comments2023-12-31T07:32:12.295+00:00Comments on The Voice of Reason: Claire Khaw on the Victoria Derbyshire Show (starts 26th minute)Claire Khawhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11557436240917008429noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-23957824903923871252011-12-01T17:06:40.610+00:002011-12-01T17:06:40.610+00:00"Even the Neanderthals looked after their dis..."Even the Neanderthals looked after their disabled. I'm not sure quite where in the evolution of human consciousness this person got stuck, but she sure is in an awful place. I pity her."<br /><br />Do you have proof for this insane assumption that neanderthals looked after their disabled? <br /><br />By the way everybody, Claire is looking at the bigger picture.<br /><br />Its pretty obvious, if a human being cannot walk, talk, eat, or shit on their own, what kind of a human being are they? <br /><br />Ultimately it is SELFISH to keep them alive, you are putting your own sappy feelings ahead of reason.<br /><br />Such people funnily enough are seen as heroes, for not being tough enough to spare a child a life of misery? How pathetic. <br /><br />I guarantee everybody you talk to in person, would agree, such a child should not be allowed to exist. This is not only rational, it is truly loving.<br /><br />Whats loving about keeping a suffering useless person alive? Whats loving about forcing everyone to pay for it? Whats loving about raising someone that can't become anything or do anything or ever be independent? <br /><br />"not even human is she as the every person, disabled or not has the right to live a life with the best possible help to attain that quality, she does not even come close to having this right as she is totally heartless and I pity her kids"<br /><br />You are totally heartless, because apparently no matter how hard I work, no matter how hard I try, someone with no ability to succeed deserves as much success and quality of life as myself? <br /><br /><br />What is the point in hard work if you force equality? <br /><br />Claire can see beyond her selfish needs and emotions, to view the bigger picture, can you? <br /><br />And no, the mark of a civilised society is NOT the way it treats its disabled. <br /><br />The mark of a civilised society is how it treats THE MAJORITY, the families, the people that make that society what it is.<br /><br />We're living in a society in which the minority, the weak, the disabled are uplifted, at the expense of the hard working folk, this is obviously wrong.<br /><br />Life isn't a disney movie, you have to accept some brutal truths in order to really thrive. <br /><br />Without any strength, resolve, or discipline, you essentially have a society of laggards, of morons, of 'pussies'. <br /><br />NO and once again NO, a child that cannot do anything for itself does not deserve to live, I'll say it again, it is SELFISH to keep that child alive, very very selfish. Get as offended as you like, those with the courage to accept the truth will agree.Philip Arbonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-78548508305817235992011-07-30T07:25:39.887+01:002011-07-30T07:25:39.887+01:00Victoria Derbyshire:
"Celyn has quadriplegic...Victoria Derbyshire:<br /><br />"Celyn has quadriplegic cerebral palsy and epilepsy and cannot walk, talk or sit up, and she is also blind."<br /><br />I think the Neanderthals would have had problems looking after her.Claire Khawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11557436240917008429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-75950792940368679802011-07-29T19:35:51.149+01:002011-07-29T19:35:51.149+01:00Even the Neanderthals looked after their disabled....Even the Neanderthals looked after their disabled. I'm not sure quite where in the evolution of human consciousness this person got stuck, but she sure is in an awful place. I pity her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-2612073544429968102011-03-19T11:17:59.053+00:002011-03-19T11:17:59.053+00:00The subtly is obviously lost on you!The subtly is obviously lost on you!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-86632704910161887502011-03-19T07:38:04.259+00:002011-03-19T07:38:04.259+00:00The silent minority are by definition silent.The silent minority are by definition silent.Claire Khawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11557436240917008429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-86609000278243274222011-03-17T21:13:51.548+00:002011-03-17T21:13:51.548+00:00Ah - so you have given yourself the role of advoca...Ah - so you have given yourself the role of advocate for the silent minority? That's how you justify your existence?! The silence is indeed deafening.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-36107355061159652322011-03-17T08:09:44.491+00:002011-03-17T08:09:44.491+00:00A lot of people agree with me but are too scared t...A lot of people agree with me but are too scared to do so openly. They will doubtless appreciate the leadership I have shown in this matter.Claire Khawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11557436240917008429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-38423470650633426342011-03-16T19:13:26.602+00:002011-03-16T19:13:26.602+00:00It's a good job you don't have to convince...It's a good job you don't have to convince everyone isn't it? Or should I say anyone?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-13834817858955174592011-03-13T22:38:16.685+00:002011-03-13T22:38:16.685+00:00I quite see that my views are not to your liking a...I quite see that my views are not to your liking and that you reject them, which is your right. <br /><br />There is no need for me to convince everyone, in any case!Claire Khawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11557436240917008429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-75562509459586644462011-03-13T11:07:55.395+00:002011-03-13T11:07:55.395+00:00You haven't given any answers! Your posts are ...You haven't given any answers! Your posts are full of contradictions, 'most people get me....I know most people don't get me must try harder!'<br /><br />Similarly, your comment about education promoting 'meritocracy' lacks credibility given the term itself is laced with ambiguity! <br /><br />I appreciate people have opinions and ideals that don't match my own; that's what makes life interesting. However, in order for me to respect these views - one must put forward a convincing argument, which at the moment one is failing miserably to do!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-10603216382512310702011-03-12T14:40:30.413+00:002011-03-12T14:40:30.413+00:00Sometimes, it just cannot be helped if people don&...Sometimes, it just cannot be helped if people don't like your answers, and one must accept the situation.Claire Khawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11557436240917008429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-31551813641965552112011-03-11T18:10:22.805+00:002011-03-11T18:10:22.805+00:00Yes, you certainly do need to do better; if you wa...Yes, you certainly do need to do better; if you want to be taken seriously. <br /><br />You can start by actually justifying your argument by responding to the questions people put to you with eloquence and intelligence, not with simple retorts like 'too bad' and ' I must try better' which quite frankly aren't going to help you achieve your goal of world domination any time soon!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-67495895212246220212011-03-11T00:10:09.730+00:002011-03-11T00:10:09.730+00:00"Many people do choose and understand the cho..."Many people do choose and understand the choice about not having a disabled child, many choose to terminate. But expecting a parent to kill their baby is frankly weird."<br /><br />It is too late for Riven Vincent to dispose of her severely disabled daughter now, I know. <br /><br />I cannot "expect" her to turn back time. The most I can do is to inform the parents of severely disabled babies that smothering them at birth is a rational and honourable option.Claire Khawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11557436240917008429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-52389480266779646762011-03-11T00:04:55.382+00:002011-03-11T00:04:55.382+00:00I know most people don't get me, and this mean...I know most people don't get me, and this means I must concentrate harder on the message and its propagation. Thank you for pointing out that I have to do more and better.Claire Khawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11557436240917008429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-50651476954932720152011-03-10T19:53:23.349+00:002011-03-10T19:53:23.349+00:00Judging by the comments on here I would say most p...Judging by the comments on here I would say most people don't get you at all - not in this country anyway. If you believe they do; you are more immersed in your fantasy world than I first though!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-52538448421316760102011-03-10T18:18:58.544+00:002011-03-10T18:18:58.544+00:00You are completely outclassed by the last response...You are completely outclassed by the last response. <br /><br />Many people do choose and understand the choice about not having a disabled child, many choose to terminate. But expecting a parent to kill their baby is frankly weird.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-91153961062059778082011-03-09T23:26:44.171+00:002011-03-09T23:26:44.171+00:00Most people??!
Yes, I'm sure if you were give...Most people??!<br /><br />Yes, I'm sure if you were given a national platform to air these views you'd have the ringing endorsement of 95% of the populatioion and be garlanded wherever you went, you fantasist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-71503790549953262442011-03-09T20:00:09.764+00:002011-03-09T20:00:09.764+00:00Most people get what I say, they really do. They ...Most people get what I say, they really do. They get not wanting to bring up a disabled child, they get not wanting to look after a hopeless case or to be a hopeless case that needs looking after. You may disapprove, and that is your right. But these are my views and if you disapprove, then that is just too bad.Claire Khawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11557436240917008429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-58845320446676005702011-03-09T17:55:39.753+00:002011-03-09T17:55:39.753+00:00I would like to respond to a couple of your points...I would like to respond to a couple of your points. I find it astounding that a woman such as you is given the national platform of BBC Radio to air her views and then doesn’t seem to be able to back up her argument with any substance. <br /><br />You failed to respond to any of the questions I posed in my previous post (my little girl has WS) and your comment, ‘no one should be paying for the children of anyone else able bodied or disabled’ is hardly compelling. <br /><br />Similarly, your statement, ‘my view is instinctive…’ is also rather weak. You said on the radio you have children of your own and therefore I would hope that even you can understand and appreciate the love you feel for a child. <br /><br />Therefore, you are honestly saying that you could suppress your natural maternal instincts and reject a child you bore? How would you know that this child wasn’t going to make a positive contribution to society in his or her own way? <br /><br />Everyone is born with a need to be nurtured and developed in order to reach their full potential whatever this may be. Some may need this for longer or maybe even throughout their whole life in some way or another, but it doesn’t render them worthless to ‘man or beast’ as you so eloquently put it. <br /><br />Equally, your deeply profound statement, ‘I don’t fancy looking after a severely disabled child or adult’ is almost laughable. It’s almost like saying, ‘I can’t be arsed rising to the challenge of both nurturing and supporting a child, who may have a disability or some sort of hurdle to overcome. Neither can I be bothered to care for an elderly or vulnerable adult member of my family, who deserves my support!’ <br /><br />Tell me, how exactly would you be any use to man or beast then? When the ‘man’ here of course metaphorically represents a member of your family? Do you understand the true meaning of ‘family values?’ No man is an island and we all need the support of other people from both extended family and society at certain points in our life. <br /><br />Reducing your argument to the insult, ‘why is this rocket science to so many people?’ is quite a stark juxtaposition with your earlier comment, ‘keep calm and carry on.’ I sense you are perhaps feeling the pressure under scrutiny?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-54143386715511709922011-03-09T16:32:16.686+00:002011-03-09T16:32:16.686+00:00Both my parents are well and rather bemused by the...Both my parents are well and rather bemused by the fact that there can be such rending of garments, gnashing of teeth and tearing of hair over a few basic home truths about the facts of life.Claire Khawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11557436240917008429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-89218127225493487262011-03-09T16:28:19.771+00:002011-03-09T16:28:19.771+00:00Not wasting limited resources on hopeless cases an...Not wasting limited resources on hopeless cases and how to use limited resources in the most rational way are questions that remain eternally relevant.Claire Khawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11557436240917008429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-49374139241661778542011-03-09T14:50:57.349+00:002011-03-09T14:50:57.349+00:00For the record I said you had a Chinese upbringing...For the record I said you had a Chinese upbringing, not that you were raised in China. Trying to work out what damaged you, your father's disappointment that you were a girl or your mother's. Depends which was Chinese I suppose, unless they were both ashamed of producing you. Are both now dead? Or do you keep in touch, they must be so proud.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-28777458136180455492011-03-09T14:48:41.952+00:002011-03-09T14:48:41.952+00:00We're talking about right now, today not WW2 t...We're talking about right now, today not WW2 time. <br /><br />Narcissist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-43207456242183973902011-03-09T09:00:42.525+00:002011-03-09T09:00:42.525+00:00I do not come from China, though I am aware of fem...I do not come from China, though I am aware of female infanticide - a common practice amongst poorer cultures. <br /><br />You are probably unaware that WW2 there was an increased number of dead babies in the canals of Britain found by the Inland Waterway Services. <br /><br />It has been suggested that people were having more extra-marital sex and were reluctant to expend scarce resources on hopeless cases. <br /><br />In other words, these mothers did not have the luxury of having someone else pick up the tab or the ability to shake their begging bowl aggressively at the taxpayer. <br /><br />You display a very hard liberal arrogance and a very sad historical ignorance. <br /><br />I note that you are one of those people who confuse "principals" with "principles".<br /><br />I do not wish to move to China or live anywhere else because I now feel it is my duty to nurse this country through its liberal dementia. With care and patience, it is possible the patient will recover. I shall do my best anyway.Claire Khawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11557436240917008429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747759322341026313.post-32343887234983491972011-03-08T17:19:35.308+00:002011-03-08T17:19:35.308+00:00Your Chinese upbringing betrays your Britishness. ...Your Chinese upbringing betrays your Britishness. Clearly the dying rooms, the bucket at the side of a birth, the casual way people with disabilities are abandoned in China. seems to have shaped your cold heart. Why not live in China, they already stand by all of your ideals? <br />You are a narcissist and cannot fathom your own journey through your own principals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com