'Plebgate' row: Timeline
What should Andrew Mitchell not have done, apart from not ride his bike, and used his ministerial car instead?
What went wrong for Andrew Mitchell? For Hitler, it was invading Poland.
Judge "satisfied" Andrew Mitchell used the "politically toxic word" pleb in Downing Street row http://t.co/FurXrgtAP3 pic.twitter.com/s0seTII5ER
— ITV News (@itvnews) November 27, 2014
'Plebgate' witness: 'nobody read my notes' #r4today http://t.co/zLNb6zdrjf
— BBC Radio 4 Today (@BBCr4today) November 28, 2014
I don't even get why Andrew Mitchell sued over it. I call plebs plebs. Astonishing he had to resign over it. http://t.co/sXkJixUvrB
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 27, 2014
I get it that Andrew Mitchell had to resign cos he was alleged to have said pleb, but why did he? http://t.co/sXkJixUvrB
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 27, 2014
Are government ministers not allowed to call plebs plebs without losing their job? British have GONE MAD. http://t.co/sXkJixUvrB
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 27, 2014
If I had been Andrew Mitchell and called plebs plebs I wouldn't fucking resign over it. #plebgate
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 27, 2014
If I had bn David Cameron n 1 of my Ministers called some coppers plebs cos they were giving him a hard time I wdn't accept his resignation.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 27, 2014
The day when a government minister cannot call a pleb a pleb without losing his job is the day when we hv lost all trust in all politicians.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 27, 2014
So now we know: politicians are hated not only by the police but also by the judiciary. u wd hv thot they wd stick up 4 each other but NO.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 27, 2014
Who would become a politician now - to be so despised that one cannot be rude to anyone without losing one's position? What total COBBLERS.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 27, 2014
The thing to note about #plebgate is the leader of a party NEVER defends or protects his members if they get into trouble. @EmilyThornberry
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 27, 2014
@TrollULike Doesn't matter what the fuck you are paid if you can lose your job for calling a pleb a pleb, is it?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 27, 2014
@TrollULike As far as you are concerned politicians have no rights. You would tear them from limb to limb without hesitation, I know.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 27, 2014
@TrollULike I wouldn't want their job at twice the salary if I cant' call a pleb a pleb without having to resign from the cabinet. #plebgate
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 27, 2014
@TrollULike Stands to reason that plebs like you just want to do down anyone who dares to earn more than you, filled with envy as you are.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 27, 2014
@TrollULike Anyone who earns more than you deserves to die, do they?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 27, 2014
@LouiseMensch It is shocking, I agree.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 27, 2014
Is Justice Mitting one of those liberal judges? #plebgate
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 27, 2014
I would very much doubt that Justice Mitting is a supporter of the Conservative Party. #plebgate
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 27, 2014
@Rolo_Tamasi I am speculating. He sat on the Immigration Appeals Tribunal which suggests he would be a libtard. No friend of the Tories.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 27, 2014
@Rolo_Tamasi It was so obvious that Justice Mitting decided *not* to give Andrew Mitchell the benefit of the doubt. Breathtaking really.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 27, 2014
Who would be a politician now? #plebgate
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 27, 2014
What should Andrew Mitchell do now? Defect to @UKIP. @Nigel_Farage @DouglasCarswell @MarkReckless @DanHannanMEP @David_Cameron #plebgate
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 27, 2014
Andrew Mitchell can't possibly return to the Cabinet now... he's no longer rich enough.
— Mark Sparrow (@MarkGSparrow) November 27, 2014
@stephen_wood701 @MarkGSparrow I feel rather sorry for him. I can see myself calling plebs plebs if they stopped me from riding my bike.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 28, 2014
@stephen_wood701 @MarkGSparrow I don't see it as a resigning matter. It is just as crazy as @EmilyThornberry having to resign over her tweet
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 28, 2014
@stephen_wood701 @MarkGSparrow I really think their brains have fallen out of their skulls and we are running on empty.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 28, 2014
@MrHenryGee @BBCr4today You will be fine if you are not forced to resign for being rude to coppers.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 28, 2014
For Hitler, his fatal error was invading Poland. What was Andrew Mitchell's? #PlebgateTimeline http://t.co/zzXkqo9gp1
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 28, 2014
@MrHenryGee @BBCr4today David Cameron is a weakling and a coward and has no concept of how principle operates. #plebgate
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 28, 2014
@MrHenryGee @BBCr4today If I were PM I would defend my ministers and not accept any resignation if situation didn't warrant it. #plebgate
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 28, 2014
I think Andrew Mitchell's fatal error was in resigning instead of waiting to be sacked by David Cameron. #plebgate
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 28, 2014
Imagine if u were Andrew Mitchell with all that money not spent on legal fees about to jump ship to @UKIP after @David_Cameron sacked u ...
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) November 28, 2014
@lldzne If Andrew Mitchell had stuck to his principles he would be the first ex-Cabinet Minister about to defect UKIP http://t.co/TjZzhSQ5dX
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) December 5, 2014
@ntfem Sorry, I am missing the warrant that connects your claim to your evidence.
— lawrence serewicz (@lldzne) December 5, 2014
@lldzne Happy to explain: if Mitchell had not resigned Cameron would have sacked him. If Cameron had sacked him he would have been vengeful
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) December 5, 2014
@lldzne If Mitchell had been vengeful towards Cameron about being sacked from the Cabinet, defecting to UKIP would cause Cameron most damage
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) December 5, 2014
15 comments:
I think his 'fatal error' was being an arrogant dickhead in the first place.
I cant see what 'principle' he was upholding. we can do without arseholes like him in governemnt
Mitchell made one enormous mistake. How the fuck could he have agreed to a non-jury trial? A jury with two or three black men on it would have seen him awarded massive damages. Damn that cunt of a judge.
I was referring to the principle of not resigning if you don't think you have done anything worth resigning over.
The principle of not resigning if you don't think you have done anything worth resigning over.
Or Miliband when he sacked Thornberry?
Or don't you see that either?
I was invited to resign from the BNP for what I said on the Victoria Derbyshire Show. I declined to do so.
http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/claire-khaw-expelled-from-bnp.html
It was a FALSE ECONOMY agreeing to a judge-only trial, yes, indeed. Sally Bercow went wrong that way too.
Expensive for him... yet the cost simply verifies the rule for all of us, independent of power and influence we may have: If the State's servant of power (police) give evidence within the State's Court, then that officer's version will be accepted whether truthful or not. There was a case in Scotland a decade or so ago where a policewoman's fingerprints were verified as being at the scene of a murder incident. It would have been virtually impossible for her to have been there ... yet the fingerprints "proved" otherwise. A very difficult position for the police, courts, forensic evidence, CPS. The result? - rather than having proven that fingerprint collection or police were wrong... easy... the young officer was retired from police service with an undisclosed taxpayer pay-off. Crisis over. No police compromised. Fingerprint "evidence" saved.
Actually it has more to do with the evidential criteria being a lot less in civil cases.
The Judge ruled on the basis of probabilities and ruled in favour of The Sun.
That Mitchell said "something like" Pleb... on probability. He never claimed he did not use bad language or that he never said anything like "pleb". He only claimed he didn't use "pleb" ... and one cops word saying he did was enough, huh? Even though a number of other cops have been sacked or sanctioned for colluding and conspiring against Mitchell... liars. every one of them.
It is absurd to settle the case on the basis of probabilities. In fact the entire situation is absurd. Not since Michael Meacher sued someone for claiming he wasn't working class has there been a more ridiculous case. The right thing to do would have been to throw it out as vexatious and a waste of public funds and administer the appropriate number of lashes to both parties . But of course the bloodsucking legal community wouldn't have received its fat fees.
Mitchell is cunt, he got what he deserved
Was it an ego trip (as Meacher's may have been)? Mitchell lost his career and humiliated as a result. If he deserved it then let all police officers lie based on their individual beliefs on who deserves it. No change there then.
Yes, we are now back in the situation where the police can lie and connive and back each other up with impunity. The question remains: if they can collude to destroy a member of the government, what can't they do to you and I?
Cops are scum. So are politicians. This is a real confusing case. I hate all of them.
It all boils down to who was the bigger cunt.
If Mitchell had not resigned Cameron would have sacked him in the end.
Members of the establishment no longer even stand up for each other.
They have lost all their marbles and their marbles are rolling all over the floor, but they are still in charge.
I actually find this scarier.
The real worry is that an unholy alliance of Plod and the Sun can now expect to get away with stitching up anyone they please, selling us whatever lies are convenient for their own purposes: insinuations of paedophilia, sexual impropriety, pointing a finger at the police in a " threatening manner"...This has been somehow overlooked in the overall farce.
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