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Saturday, 8 March 2025

AI fun with Secular Koranism with Vincent Bruno #6 Entertaining detractors

Soft launch of Secular Koranism discussed with DR HANNAH PEREIRA-MOHAMMED

6:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins.

7:00  Critics of Secular Koranism

8:00  CALLINGASAS joins to abuse SK.

10:00  Vincent explains SK to CALLINGASAS.

11:00  Forecast of American reaction to SK

Using reverse psychology for SK

The media conspiracy to suppress the propagation of SK

16:00  How will America react to Secular Koranism

21:00  13th and 18th Amendment

31:00  Paul Vander Klay

33:00  William Breiannis

White converts are least prepared to discuss SK

36:00  ADAM BINYAMIN joins.

40:00  Concubine Contracts

42:00  Dystopian sitcoms

44:00  Carol rejects licensed brothels in red-light districts.

45:00  The biggest group of female suppliers of sex are fornicatresses who are not registered prostitutes. 

46:00  BROKEN DREAMZ RECHARGED joins to discuss SK.

48:00  Adam giggles at pamphlet and the constitution.

49:00  "You can't take Islam out of the Koran."

50:00  The Koran is the best available guide to humanity whoever wrote it and whether or not God exists. 

55:00  Natural Law

1:00:00  quran.com/2/256

1:01:00  DR NICK joins without having done the required reading. 

1:03:00  Enjoining good and forbidding evil

1:04:00  Atheists and liberals are not the arbiters of morality.

1:05:00  Is slavery immoral?

1:06:00  Fashions of morality

1:07:00  Culture is fluid.

1:11:00  DR NIT PICK

1:13:00 SIGMA joins to discuss https://secularkoranism.blogspot.com

1:14:00  Praising Grok

1:15:00  Ways of using Grok

1:16:00  Irony in Islam

Irony, as a literary or cultural device, often involves a contrast between expectation and reality, or a twist that subverts norms in a thought-provoking way. While Islamic culture and literature—spanning over 1,400 years and vast geographies—aren’t typically framed around irony in the same way Western traditions might be (e.g., Socratic irony or Shakespearean twists), there are certainly examples where irony emerges, whether intentional or situational. Here are a few instances from Islamic history, literature, and tradition that could be interpreted as ironic:

The Story of Prophet Yusuf (Joseph) in the Qur’an

In Surah Yusuf (Chapter 12 of the Qur’an), Yusuf’s brothers plot to get rid of him out of jealousy, throwing him into a well to die or be taken away. Their intention is to eliminate him as a rival for their father’s affection. The irony lies in the outcome: this very act of betrayal leads to Yusuf’s rise to power in Egypt, where he later saves his family—including those same brothers—from famine. What they meant for harm becomes their salvation, a classic twist of situational irony.

Al-Hajjaj ibn Yusuf: The Tyrant’s Piety

Al-Hajjaj, a 7th-century Umayyad governor infamous for his brutality, was also a staunch enforcer of Arabic language purity and Qur’anic recitation standards. He killed countless rebels and innocents, yet his contributions to standardizing the Qur’an’s script (like adding diacritical marks) endure as a cornerstone of Islamic scholarship. The irony is that a man so steeped in violence became a preserver of sacred knowledge, an outcome that contrasts sharply with his blood-soaked reputation.

Rumi’s Poetry and the Drunkard’s Wisdom

In Jalaluddin Rumi’s Masnavi, a treasure of Persian Islamic literature, there’s a recurring use of paradoxical or ironic figures. One story involves a drunkard stumbling into a mosque, disrupting the pious with his slurred ramblings—only for his unfiltered honesty to reveal a spiritual truth the sober congregation misses. The irony lies in the reversal: the “sinner” becomes the vessel of divine insight, while the outwardly devout are humbled.

The Abbasid Caliphate’s Golden Age

The Abbasid dynasty (750–1258 CE) overthrew the Umayyads, promising a return to prophetic simplicity and justice against the Umayyads’ perceived decadence. Yet, under caliphs like Harun al-Rashid, the Abbasids presided over a court of unparalleled luxury, immortalized in tales like One Thousand and One Nights. The irony is that their revolution against excess birthed an era even more opulent, blending high culture with the very indulgences they once condemned.

The Satire of Al-Jahiz

Al-Jahiz, a 9th-century Arab writer and polymath, often laced his works with subtle irony. In The Book of Misers (Kitab al-Bukhala), he mocks stingy characters with exaggerated praise, like lauding a man for “generously” offering guests the chance to smell his cooking rather than eat it. The irony serves a moral critique, using humor to expose hypocrisy or greed—traits at odds with Islamic ideals of generosity.

These examples show irony manifesting in different forms: situational twists in religious narratives, historical contradictions, or literary satire. Islamic culture tends to prioritize moral clarity over ambiguity, so irony isn’t always explicit or celebrated as a standalone device—but it’s there, woven into stories and realities that invite reflection.

1:20:00  Sitcoms

1:23:00  VINCENT BRUNO rejoins.

Secular Koranist Party Constitution  

1:32:00  Halloween

Vincent Bruno has more followers than me.

1:34:00  Censorship

https://secularkoranism.blogspot.com

1:36:00  "I don't think this is very democratic."

1:37:00  POTUS would be the Supreme Leader.

Mandatory marriage contracts

Article V: Transition to Governance

    Power Assumption:

        Upon achieving global dominance, the SKP dissolves all other political parties and national governments, establishing the SKWS as the sole authority.

1:38:00  "There will only be one Secular Koranist World State."

1:40:00  Chinese  Communist Party constitution.

1:44:00  US Supreme Court appointments

1:46:00  Personality profile

1:50:00  Secular Koranism 2.0

1:52:00  NPA will be SK 2.0.

1:55:00  SKBN

1:56:00  Register of Polygamists and their wives

1:57:00  Being fair to wives

2:00:00  The age of consent in the UK is 16.

2:01:00  Jews

2:02:00  A Register of Religious Groups

2:04:00  A Register of Atheists

2:05:00  Torah and non-Torah Jews

2:09:00  Statement of Principles

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