11:53 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
@SirAlphaLimaTango Isn't Kabbalah just Jewish spirituality?
11:56 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
@SirAlphaLimaTango What was Pageau saying about Kabbalah?
11:58 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
@chrishoward8473 A reading of the poem in a dedicated stream would be great!
11:58 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
There were a few good lines.
11:58 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
AI can help you do your poem in the style of Longfellow!
11:59 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
@SirAlphaLimaTango He's such an airhead anyway.
11:59 AM
@Eolson-helper
I hear those advanced in wisdom often have such a mood towards food.
11:59 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
@SirAlphaLimaTango Pageau looks like one of those many men specially chosen for their looks to make whatever they are selling appealing to women.
12:00 PM
@AmIDriving
#1
Agreed
12:02 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
@SirAlphaLimaTango I associate Pageau with platitudes.
12:05 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
Ford's movie is thriller drama, quite apropos for the current moment of Christian Nationalism
12:06 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@SirAlphaLimaTango Christian Nationalism would lead to a Christian Amendment implicitly abolishing the First Amendment. Too bad PVK won't discuss this.
12:07 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
Christian Nationalism would make the Founding Fathers spin like turbines in their graves, considering they took the trouble to separate the church from their state.
12:09 PM
@ChristianDiaspora
#3
Has Secular Koranism coalesced into a viable political party? 👀
12:09 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
PVK would rather spin European history with his milquetoast moral theology rather than value historicity, even if it doesn't make your team look good
12:09 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
What is "Christian culture" anyway?
12:10 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@ChristianDiaspora Secular Koranism is for the government to implement, not for winning elections.
12:10 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
45000 different Christian cultures
12:11 PM
@Eolson-helper
Good question OSK
12:11 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@Eolson-helper Thank you!
12:12 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
Catholics, Orthodox, and Orientals dont see the plethora of Protestant offshoot as part of "the body of Christ"
12:12 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@SirAlphaLimaTango Christians don't even care about their Christianity enough to ask which Church won the Wars of the Reformation and why.
12:12 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@SirAlphaLimaTango Every denomination of Christianity has already accused the others of heresy.
12:14 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@SirAlphaLimaTango If the Trinity is the unforgivable sin of associating partners with God as Muslims suppose, then all Trinitarians are in trouble. The Founding Fathers were not Trinitarians.
12:15 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@SirAlphaLimaTango Weren't the Founding Fathers Unitarians? Weren't there five Unitarian American Presidents?
12:16 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@SirAlphaLimaTango Which Church would you say won the Wars of the Reformation?
12:17 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@SirAlphaLimaTango Do you accept that Catholics and Protestants have an opposing view of Whig history?
12:17 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
@claire The churches that didn't see Obama let the Pope on the White House balcony on the 500th anniversary of the Reformation as the victor
12:17 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
Is Ron Copperman a Pentecostalist?
12:19 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
yes, he is, maybe even further wooish, as he talks about Elizabeth Claire Prophet of the Occult
12:19 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
What does Ron Copperman think of Paula White?
12:19 PM
@teestrypzSOG
naija represent
12:20 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
Isn't Paula White a mad and bad? She is a Pentecostalist, isn't she?
12:20 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
Elizabeth Claire Prophet worshipped Count Saint Germain of Rosicrucian, Freemasonic, Theosophy legend
12:21 PM
@teestrypzSOG
isn't mo a pedo?
12:21 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
Megachurches need to be big to give space for holy rollers to roll.
12:22 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
naija nah wah ooohhhh, hey
12:22 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
Megachurches are basically there to platform mass hysteria and exclude rational thought.
12:23 PM
@teestrypzSOG
lol
12:23 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
While the Catholic Church puts on a good show for their traditional services, Megachurches make their congregation part of the show.
12:23 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
Baptist churches often adorn the York Rite cross and crown emblem
12:24 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
My observation of Christians is that those who go to Megachurches are less likely to engage in rational discourse.
12:25 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
The difference between Muslim and Christian forms of worship is the simplicity of the former and the elaborate rituals of the latter.
12:25 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
@claire my conservative grandmother would call Evangelicals, "the wingnuts of our party" lol
12:26 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
Should worship be a performance? Should worshipers become part of the show? It is like accepting a dinner invitation and finding yourself on the menu.
12:27 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
prosperity gospel 101
12:27 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@SirAlphaLimaTango It is my considered opinion that the Founding Fathers were proto-Muslim Noahides and heretical Christians who worshiped a Unitarian God.
12:28 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@SirAlphaLimaTango It appears that those who believe in the prosperity gospel are sheep to be fleeced.
12:28 PM
@AmIDriving
#1
Pow pow pow
12:29 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@SirAlphaLimaTango What do you think of Paula White? Why doesn't any journalist ask POTUS what kind of Christian he is and his thoughts on morality?
12:29 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
plant a seed for Jesus, donate your mortgage payment for a cheap prayer cloth made in China
12:30 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@SirAlphaLimaTango Why doesn't the US government protect its more credulous citizens from charismatic frauds like Paula White?
12:31 PM
@teestrypzSOG
it's interesting, just not pretty
12:31 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
Thanks to Trump's foreign policy, American Christianity is now coming now coming under global scrutiny.
12:31 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
actually many journalists have reported on Trump's Norman Vincent Peale influence... Power of Positive Thinking and Think and Grow Rich Mentality
12:31 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
actually many journalists have reported on Trump's Norman Vincent Peale influence... Power of Positive Thinking and Think and Grow Rich Mentality
12:33 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
Mormons, Jehovah Witness, Adventist, and Pentecostals were are founded by Rosicrucian, Freemasonic, Theosophy types
12:33 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@SirAlphaLimaTango Norman Vincent Peale and Napoleon Hill are deceased. Paula White is very much alive giving American Christianity a very bad name!
12:34 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
@claire I was adding context to what type of Christian tradition he comes from since you asked
12:36 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@SirAlphaLimaTango Trump's parents were Presbyterians.
12:36 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
Joseph Smith was a Scottish Rite Freemason
12:37 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
Donald Trump's mother, Mary Anne MacLeod, was a strict Presbyterian who ensured her children were raised in that faith.
12:37 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
His father, Fred Trump, was of Lutheran descent but married Mary Anne as a Presbyterian and joined her at the First Presbyterian Church in Jamaica, Queens, where Donald was confirmed in 1959.
12:37 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
While the family later attended Marble Collegiate Church (led by Norman Vincent Peale), their foundational religious upbringing was Presbyterian.
12:37 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
@Claire Trump grew up listening to Peale’s sermons, which emphasized a "prosperity gospel" that equated faith with success. Peale officiated at Trump’s first wedding...
12:38 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
American Christians are not that rooted in their parental denomination and are more "rooted" in the traditions and practices of their nearest church.
12:39 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
@chris, ask Ron to speak on Elizabeth Claire Prophet
12:39 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
"Church of Convenience" is very much an American thing.
12:39 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
@claire it all goes back to the film, "Brotherhood of the Bell"
12:40 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
In any case , we cannot expect social clubs to be maintaining morality. This means Congress as legislature remains the ultimate enforcer of morality.
12:42 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
How can a ruling class of fake Christians be expected to maintain the morality of their fake Christian voters?
12:43 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
dont let Claire watch Claire's lectures lol
12:44 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
#3
I think they are talking about me and you, Claire hahaha
12:45 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
@SirAlphaLimaTango I'm glad you're here!
12:45 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
#3
I appreciate your presence as well, sister.. I love your passion for rational justice
12:46 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
Why not just make a point of thinking of God at least 5 times a day?
12:46 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
@SirAlphaLimaTango Justice is easy once there is truth.
12:46 PM
@SirAlphaLimaTango
#3
I agree
12:47 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
Americans should pursue justice instead of happiness.
12:48 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
And they would end up happier too!
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