10:39 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
#1
Is the doctrine of the trinity the birth of science?
10:43 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
#1
The clarity of the Trinity is like the discernible clarity of physics
10:48 AM
@ChadMatthewAlbin
#1
This all sounds like an autopsy
11:07 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
Tertullian: "We believe it because it is absurd."
11:08 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
Credo quia absurdum
11:09 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
Does Scott know about the First Seven Ecumenical Councils? These were seven ancient attempts to get the story of Christianity right. These attempts continue to this day.
11:10 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
You are not going to believe it because it is absurd, are you? This means Christians will lack conviction and be manipulated by their governments through the use of hate and fear.
11:12 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
Christianity is known as the religion of hypocrites because the subjects of absolute monarchs would go along to get along or the penalty would be being burned at the stake for heresy.
11:14 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
Whichever way you slice it, the Trinity is associating partners with God, called shituf by Jews and also considered to be an unforgivable sins by Muslims.
11:16 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
If Christians wish to remain Christian, they would have to logically and necessarily continue to deny the Trinity is idolatry valuing worldly concerns of hanging out with other Christians over sin.
11:17 AM
@alohm
That is why I think Philology - the love of language is how we can fall in love with scripture and myth again
11:17 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
Christians have been manipulated by their governments through the use of hatred and fear to make them fight their wars.
11:18 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
@FungsiYukHunPo The interpretation that most accords with facts and logic is to be preferred by honest and rational individuals.
11:19 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
The problem with Christians is that most of them do not even believe in their own religion properly and the priesthood fears to tell them the enormity of the absurdity they are required to believe.
11:19 AM
@FungsiYukHunPo
who determines the proper price of porcelain? Brett has the value of about a baker's dozen worth of toilet bowls in his grill... lol
11:21 AM
@alohm
I applied Mortimer Alder's 'How to Read' Protocol to Scripture and that helped me a great deal.
11:21 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
It is actually through non-Western Christians that the unholy bargain is most clearly understood. Europeans are routinely lied to about the Trinity because if told, they would reject it with contempt.
11:22 AM
@alohm
The toilet bowl is made in a mold, the teeth are fitted to his needs, that is a great allegory...
11:22 AM
@FungsiYukHunPo
@alohm i recommended that book about two or three years ago in TLC and a few months later Luke was referencing it... funny how mimesis works lol
11:23 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
The ancestors of Europeans were forced to worship a Jew by their absolute monarchs. If they rejected it, they would be burned at the stake. This information is of course withheld from Westerners.
11:23 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
@FungsiYukHunPo The heretical Reform Jew has now blocked me, I see.
11:23 AM
@alohm
I prefer to know if the recommendation helped, how did they apply it...
11:24 AM
@alohm
Or Deut 6 tells us to revel in of God's Gardens - people, plants, and potential?
11:25 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
Chad is right that this is an autopsy of the Trinity. As such, it is historically significant.
11:26 AM
@alohm
Knowledge without application or integration is a trivial data point.
11:26 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
@FungsiYukHunPo Heretics should know they are heretics, shouldn't they?
11:26 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
It would help if Christians understood which other denominations call them heretics and why.
11:27 AM
@FungsiYukHunPo
@alohm I learned about the book from Hamza Yusuf, the founder of Zaytuna College, the first Islamic Liberal Arts college in the US , and now Christians in TLC are benefiting from wisdom from a Muslim
11:27 AM
@alohm
In al we do is Sati Sapajanna in Sanskrit and the mandate in Deut 6 and the two mandates that they all hang on to Jesus. To carry these truths too all we do.
11:27 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
If theology is the study of God, then it includes the autopsy of the Trinity.
11:28 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
@FungsiYukHunPo It is important for Americans to understand that the Founding Fathers were proto-Muslim Noahides who rejected absolute monarchy and quarantined the church from their state.
11:30 AM
@alohm
Know thyself twisted into a negative
11:31 AM
@FungsiYukHunPo
@alohm obviously Luke took something from my suggestion or he would not have known or bought the book.. I thank Aristole's causes
11:31 AM
@alohm
Freedom is to know the guard rails - Deut 6 again (or 5:29?)
11:32 AM
@alohm
Words shape us as much as we shape the words we use
11:32 AM
@alohm
linguistic relativity - reciprocity in correction
11:32 AM
@everettvroon
freedom is letting go of me/letting the master do His thing
11:33 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#2
Westerners have to decide whether to get themselves convictions beyond mere hatred of certain individuals and groups.
11:33 AM
@alohm
@everettvroon There is Kenosis
11:33 AM
@everettvroon
is that kenosis?
11:35 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#3
Is Olson congratulating himself on avoiding conversations?
11:36 AM
@MaryamSafiyaKhan
#3
"The truth will set you free [from error and disaster]."
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