THE VOICE OF REASON
Solon, (born c. 630 BCE—died c. 560 BCE), Athenian statesman, known as one of the Seven Wise Men of Greece (the others were Chilon of Sparta, Thales of Miletus, Bias of Priene, Cleobulus of Lindos, Pittacus of Mytilene, and Periander of Corinth). Solon ended exclusive aristocratic control of the government, substituted a system of control by the wealthy, and introduced a new and more humane law code. He was also a noted poet.
Sunday, 9 August 2026
The American Conundrum can be solved by Secular Koranism
11:45 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
Can a moral inventory be made of US foreign policy?
11:46 AM
@YawnGod
"Listen...if we don't kill them over there, they will kill us over here." -- G.W.
11:47 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
We are individually and collectively punished by humans and by God if He exists.
11:47 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
Forsooth! Saying nothing can be changed by voting?!
11:47 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Is Britain also responsible for US foreign policy?
11:48 AM
@YawnGod
@OfficialSecularKoranism You should watch the Transnational Capital scene in the film Network.
11:49 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@YawnGod The 1976 movie?
11:50 AM
@YawnGod
@OfficialSecularKoranism Thats right
11:51 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@YawnGod I remember reading a Batman comic complaining about Corporate America. This goes way back. In fact it goes back to FDR.
11:52 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
Yawn “a dominion of dollars”, no nations…
11:52 AM
@YawnGod
@OfficialSecularKoranism I'm sure it goes even further back to when the first merchants were lying on their cuneiform clay tablets.
11:52 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
It goes back to Washington's farewell speech warning Americans against political parties.
11:53 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
It goes back to the Hindu caste system. the merchant class was never meant to be the one calling the shots.
11:53 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#3
So why are they, OSK?
11:53 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
You would expect the merchant class to care only about profit and loss.
11:53 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@stefaniecristos8514 Why are they what?
11:54 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@stefaniecristos8514 Why are who what?
11:54 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
Calling the shots. You have a lot of “shoulds” and “shouldn’ts”
11:54 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
The merchant class, calling the shots.
11:55 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@stefaniecristos8514 The king was supposed to have a priest whose advice he heeded.
11:55 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
Sounds like you may be arguing with reality?
11:55 AM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
still in Ireland?
11:55 AM
@LoricaSancta
a good aspect of this review is seeing the algo work. that drunk lady was in my feed yesterday also. we are being shaped. hello all
11:56 AM
@LoricaSancta
no, alas.
11:56 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
David Wood is an Islamophobe. Muslim countries are subject to the same treatment as formerly Christian countries. 21st century Christians are functionally atheist.
11:57 AM
@βρεττς
Understanding that he knows he has no feelings he’s doing the best he can with not having feelings. Even though they say there’s no such thing as psychopath clinically anymore.
11:58 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
Lorica, I agree, we are constantly being shaped and our YouTube feed shows us our echo chamber.
11:58 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
Who, Brett? David Frumm?
11:58 AM
@βρεττς
Chris Scott and I continued that Luke stream on my channel
11:58 AM
@βρεττς
#3
Wood
11:59 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
Oh, someone else I need to look up…
12:00 PM
@βρεττς
#3
He learned he didn’t have emotional feelings. In his evil times, he smashed his dad in the head with a hammer. But now he’s trying to use his lack of feelings to have a balance discussion with people
12:00 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
Wow, thanks for shaving me the time to look into him, Brett.
12:01 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
Ugh
12:01 PM
@teestrypzSOG
sigh
12:09 PM
@βρεττς
#3
Stef He comes off contentious. But Wood actually has a decent message and points out through facts and logic why Islam is noncoherent. He just sometimes comes up as mean because he doesn’t feel
12:09 PM
@YawnGod
It's just corporal punishment rules, but without the emotional righteous indignation--rather, it's all logical and rational 🤔
12:12 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
I don’t think I can be open to someone who hit his dad in the head with a hammer. That just puts up such a wall in me.
12:13 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
That said, my exploration of Islam has yet to begin with any depth. So eventually I may come across him.
12:14 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
Powers and Principalities, people!
12:15 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
#1
Or, taking the metaphysical out of it, Multinational corporations?
12:15 PM
@βρεττς
#3
A large majority of the declaration of independence were under 30
12:16 PM
@LoricaSancta
william pitt the younger was very famous PM and started at 24
12:16 PM
@βρεττς
#3
Even more of the signers were actually ordained ministers
12:17 PM
@LoricaSancta
monarchs do what they are told to do in europe anyhow
12:23 PM
@βρεττς
#3
Video All Claire text chat all Rob
12:25 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
“We have no Constitution which functions in the absence of a moral people.”— John Adams
12:26 PM
@βρεττς
#3
It makes you a sociopath if you talk about yourself in the third person
12:27 PM
@LoricaSancta
there is about 2 centuries between athenian democracy failing and the romans raking over
12:27 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
Truth is the opinion of powerful.
12:29 PM
@βρεττς
#3
You must think you’re really powerful
12:30 PM
@βρεττς
#3
I agree, Rob
12:31 PM
@βρεττς
#3
There’s no such thing as absolute power
12:35 PM
@YoavBressler
The word divan comes from the Sumerian word dub, which means a clay tablet. Over thousands of years, this root shifted from a writing tablet into a word for records,
12:37 PM
@YawnGod
@YoavBressler Heh, the last input I gave the AI was "I want you to make this figure look like it was chiseled onto a rock like an Ancient Egyptian relief or Cuneiform tablet." Coincidences!
12:40 PM
@YoavBressler
Did he marry Mary 'the clay tablet'?
12:42 PM
@YoavBressler
#1
Must have smelt quite bad by the 7th.
12:43 PM
@YoavBressler
#1
How else would soap opera been invented?
12:47 PM
@βρεττς
Oh if it were that simple
12:48 PM
@βρεττς
I’ve been told the Europeans don’t use soap
1:01 PM
@LIBERALARTS-b6y
theology was above because the church created scholastics lol
1:01 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
Thank you, Chris!
1:02 PM
@LIBERALARTS-b6y
thanks claire 😘
1:05 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
The Sabbath is the democratisation of leisure.
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22:00 CLAIRE KHAW joins to discuss David Wood gloating over the secularisation of Muslims.
26:00 Most people who claim to believe in the afterlife are functionally atheist.
27:00 The Koran supports the First Amendment with quran.com/2/256
28:00 David Frum
29:00 Peter Robinson
30:00 I call Secular Koranism secular out of deference to atheists, agnostics and skeptics.
31:00 King Solomon's son split the Kingdom of Israel into two.
32:00 Not taking marriage seriously causes your empire to decline and fall.
33:00 Hiring mercenaries is the end of your empire because it means you are not prepared to fight your own wars.
34:00 The banning of usury
There is no one in charge.
Speed with Keanu Reeves
35:00 TLC
What do they think they are doing?
36:00 Trump voters
37:00 David Cameron had children who were too young when he was Prime Minister.
41:00 The Praetorian Guard would assassinate Roman emperors who did not support their military policy.
43:00 Repent of ignoring the advice of George Washington, still living American Presidents!
Incremental morality and glacial progress
44:00 Democracy
45:00 The feedback loop of hypocrisy and denial
46:00 John Adams: "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
48:00 Greeks had a common language and worshiped the same pantheon of Gods, but they had no shared values.
Peloponnesian War
49:00 Socrates
50:00 The American Conundrum can be solved by Secular Koranism!
51:00 The Hasmonean monarch and the chief priest should not be the same man.
AI Overview
Combining the roles of the high priest and the king in the Hasmonean Dynasty caused major religious and political problems. Traditional Jewish law separated the political ruler (restricted to the house of David from the tribe of Judah) from the high priest (restricted to the lineage of Zadok from the tribe of Levi). By uniting both crowns, the Hasmoneans were viewed as unauthorized usurpers.
Religious and Traditional Objections
Wrong Lineage: The Hasmoneans were from the priestly family of Joarib/Levi, but they were not from the legitimate Zadokite line that traditionally held the High Priesthood.
Tribe Violation: Kingship in Jewish tradition belonged exclusively to the tribe of Judah, making a priestly king a direct violation of tribal boundaries.
Spiritual Corruption: Religious groups like the Pharisees and Essenes felt that mixing raw political power, warfare, and secular ambition with sacred priestly duties desecrated the office.
Political and Social Fallout
Civil Strife: Opposition to this dual authority led to violent domestic rifts, notably under Alexander Jannaeus, who openly fought and massacred religious dissenters.
Loss of Public Support: Disenchantment with Hasmonean autocracy caused large parts of the Jewish population to lose faith in the regime.
Roman Intervention: Bitter internal succession disputes between rival Hasmonean priest-kings eventually let the Roman general Pompey capture Jerusalem in 63 BCE, ending Jewish independence.
In 63 BCE, Jewish leaders explicitly asked the Roman general Pompey the Great to intervene and settle a bitter civil war over who should rule Judea.
When the Hasmonean queen Salome Alexandra died, her two sons, Hyrcanus II and Aristobulus II, launched into a violent war of succession for the crown and the High Priesthood. Seeking an advantage, both brothers—along with a third group representing the Jewish people—appealed directly to Rome.
The Three Delegations to Damascus
While Pompey was stationed in Damascus, three distinct Jewish factions arrived to pitch their cases:
Hyrcanus II (The Elder Brother): Argued that he was the rightful heir by birthright. He accused his younger brother of illegal usurpation.
Aristobulus II (The Younger Brother): Offered massive bribes and argued that his brother was weak, lazy, and unfit to defend Judea.
The People's Delegation: A third group of Jewish citizens begged Pompey to abolish the monarchy altogether. They wanted to remove both brothers and restore Judea to its traditional, non-royal theocracy ruled solely by priests.
The Disastrous Outcome
Instead of safely resolving the dispute, inviting Rome into internal politics backfired entirely:
The Betrayal of Trust: Pompey delayed his decision, which made Aristobulus paranoid. Aristobulus fled to Jerusalem to fortify his defenses.
The Siege of Jerusalem: Viewing this as a rebellion, Pompey marched his legions into Judea and laid siege to Jerusalem.
Massacre and Desecration: Roman troops breached the temple walls, slaughtering roughly 12,000 Jewish defenders. Pompey even walked into the Holy of Holies—the most sacred part of the Temple—shocking the Jewish population.
Loss of Sovereignty: Pompey appointed Hyrcanus II as High Priest but stripped him of the title of king. Judea was stripped of its territories, forced to pay heavy tribute to Rome, and permanently lost its independence, becoming a Roman client state.
The Irony of Monarchy: Gibbon highlighted a recurring historical irony: the Jewish people had originally rebelled against the Seleucid empire to gain religious freedom, only to quickly establish an autocratic Hasmonean monarchy that bred internal corruption and deep social divisions.
52:00 Muslim takeover - good or bad?
57:00 European warlordism
58:00 "We're from Rome and we're here to help you."
59:00 Muslims accept the prophethood of Jesus and the Virgin Birth.
1:00:00 Dalai Lama
1:03:00 The Four Rightly-Guided Caliphs were not absolute monarchs.
1:04:00 Rich people problems
1:05:00 Rules are made to be broken.
1:06:00 George Washington warned Americans against getting themselves involved in European wars.
1:07:00 War finance
1:08:00 French Revolution
1:09:00 Alien invasion
1:10:00 Pompey
1:11:00 William F Buckley
1:12:00 Reasonableness
1:14:00 Submitting to TLM
1:15:00 A minimum standard of reasonableness
1:17:00 A strict regard for truth, no justice without truth, no peace without justice.
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