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Thursday, 13 October 2011

If this is what Ethno Nationalism means, wouldn't you be better off without it?


What do people mean when they say they are Ethno-Nationalists?
I believe it means these Ethno-Nationalists want to say the following in public and in their party manifesto:
1. We want to introduce apartheid.
2. We want to forcibly repatriate non-whites citizens to their ancestral homelands.
3. We want to make non-white citizens second class citizens.
If saying any or all of the above is all it means when people say they are Ethno-Nationalists, then may I just point out that saying these things is not going to help them get elected.

5 comments:

McGonagall said...

Civic nationalism is, of course, a non sequitur. Ethnic nationalism is the norm across the globe as nations are peoples not geographic locations. Politicians, afraid of being labelled racist, have redefined the nation to mean a piece of real estate. Thus the meaningless term "civic nationalism": a nation of towns and cities but not of people.

Multi-culturalists and critics of nationalism suggest that it is exclusive and, therefore, racist. But this is itself a racist attitude that denies nations their ethnic legitimacy. These same critics would never dream of denying the Cree, Mohawk, or Inuit their right to nationhood. No, it's only indigenous white folk who are denied an ethnic identity as a people, as a nation.

Claire Khaw said...

In what way am I denying your ethnic identity? I am only suggesting that saying loudly and repeatedly you want to send citizens of other races back to their ancestral homelands or to impose apartheid or to make other races second class citizens has a tendency to make your party hated and feared.

Otherwise, your race is quite apparent to those who are members of your race as well as those who are not.

McGonagall said...

"I am only suggesting that saying loudly and repeatedly you want to send citizens of other races back to their ancestral homelands or to impose apartheid or to make other races second class citizens has a tendency to make your party hated and feared."

You are referring to the BNP? I'm not British so can't comment on that party's agenda. No my kind of nationalism embraces those who want to opt in but rejects those who wish to remain separate. Apartheid is ugly and not to be tolerated.

Mr Pedantic said...

I can't see how you can have all 3 things at the same time? surely you either have 2 or you have 1 and 3.

Introducing apartheid would not necessarily mean Ethno-Nationalism it would in fact be simply a form of multiculturalism. Apartheid already in practice exists in many parts of the UK where blacks and Sub-Continental Muslims make it clear that whites are not welcome.

Making non-white citizens second class would not necessarily mean Ethno-Nationalism, that would just be a caste system and intermixing would inevitably occur.

I can see Claire might argue against 2 but surely Claire there is always an argument for segregation and caste hierarchy?

Adolfo said...

I thought that Ethno Nationalism was small potatoes for Britons. The most important thing was to have a Global Empire where 'the sun never sets' under the ruling of Her Majesty and the protection of the One and Only God. Are you lacking of the moral fiber nowadays?