Friendships: places of wisdom or echo chambers?

11:01 AM

@teestrypzSOG

​#1

​Wagwan Marc

11:02 AM

@MarcInTbilisi

​​wagwan?

11:02 AM

@βρεττς

​​I think if you talk honestly and can receive it from another when you know there is trust between you.

11:03 AM

@βρεττς

​​Yeah sorry Chad

11:03 AM

@AmIDriving

#3

​I think it has something to do with being willing to get cut by others in the group, a bit of self sacrifice

11:03 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@MarcInTbilisi It's Afro-pronunciation and part of the degenerate culture of the West. Instead of saying "What's going on?" they say "wagwan". We should stamp on degeneracy.

11:08 AM

@OOOTLAM

​​I wanted to think women could give moral leadership to BBLs, but I am not sure now if you Megan wants to play loosey goosey with defining terms to pander to the likes of Luke Thompson.

11:13 AM

@TrinnyConstantine

​​I am not interested in being your friend if you don't share my values and make a point of rejecting TLM because you can't take it like an adult.

11:13 AM

@MarcInTbilisi

​​what's TLM?

11:14 AM

@βρεττς

​​Same verse over and over Marc

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11:14 AM

@VoodooWoo-c9s

​​@MarcInTbilisi TLM = Truth, Logic and Morality

11:18 AM

@DianaRigger

​​@MarcInTbilisi I wonder when Megan is going to mod me to protect me from these men who cannot take TLM like adults. Should she be nannying men in arrested adolescence?

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There is beauty in Creation, and every YouTube video is an act of creation. What do you wish to create, Megan? I want to create opportunities for people to challenge the current political orthodoxy to improve government for Westerners and even to facilitate imperial reform. This means having to analyse the meaning of words which for some reason TLC men hate because they hate to define terms. I am  thinking in particular of Luke Thompson who basically just wants to believe what he wants to believe claiming he is righteous even though he uses no sound arguments. I do not believe such men should be pandered to and indulged. To do so is to create even more distance from the Truth, Logic and Morality necessary to solve and avoid problems. 

There is such a subject called analytic philosophy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytic_philosophy

23:00  Is TLC truth-seeking?

Who is our friend? At the very least they are people well-intentioned towards us or have the appearance of being well-intentioned to us whether or not they share our values.

34:00  If we want a dialogue, we must have someone else to have a dialogue with, whether or not they agree with us.

37:00  A good friend should not value your goodwill over what is in fact Truth, Logic and Morality because he then becomes a panderer and a flatterer.

38:00  Stefanie is fortunate to be married to a straight talking man. Straight talking men in the West are becoming extinct.

40:00   When we speak what we believe to be the truth to people we feel are our friends, they are mostly confessions. We have to trust that they won't take it against us and use our confessions against us.

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48:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins. 

49:00  Level playing field

50:00  Potential friendship with people who want to ban Truth, Logic and Morality

52:00  Christians should understand their own history.

53:00  Reading the room

54:00  Fitting in

55:00  Lifelong friendships

I was once a liberal and feminist. 

56:00  I asked to be sent to boarding school.

57:00  I discuss politics less irl because I have already got it out of my system on the internet.

Chad said we owe it to ourselves to be more antisocial online than we are irl.

58:00  Therapy and truth-seeking

59:00  The internet is the human mind.

1:00:00  Dealing with people who don't agree with you on YouTube

1:01:00  Evil and beauty

1:02:00  Every stream is an act of creation.

1:03:00  The hospitality of Chris Howard

William Branch

1:05:00  Distractions

1:06:00  Our different reasons for streaming

1:07:00  My conviction that TLM is the way to solve problems

1:08:00  Calling someone by their first name creates an impression of friendship.

We are only valued if we are useful.

1:09:00  What is the current political orthodoxy telling us to value?

1:10:00  Feminism decreases the likelihood of women finding marriageable men or having a successful marriage. 

Mark Parker entertains doubts

26:00  Psyop is just another word for state propaganda.

35:39

@DigitalGnosis

​​I dont believe Homer was a person

Homer was a pagan. There will be no latter day Odysseus because there is no latter day Penelope. Current sexual mores would turn Penelope into some kind of porn star. 

36:00  Mark Parker has mainstreamed me! 

36:41

@βρεττς

​​I block her. I also blocked Rob who’s here right now in the chat

Beware of men who cannot defend their beliefs  with facts and logic. 

1:12:00  Surely atheists and adherents of the Abrahamic religions can agree with confidence that the concept of the Abrahamic certainly exists?

1:18:00  THE TELEOLOGICAL APPROACH TO GOD

If God exists, we should obey Him.

If God is a creation of Man, He was created for a reason and that reason still exists: to make us respect the eugenic practice of marriage ie to maintain and protect the patriarchy. 

In a patriarchy, we have a better chance of solving and avoiding problems with facts and logic. In a matriarchy, we get cancelled the moment we offend the matriarchal orthodoxy which will always be stupid, insane or evil. 

Either way, we have to obey the rule of law for the sake of our group, tribe, nation, society, empire and civilisation.  

1:34:42

@stefaniecristos8514

​​What if you cross your fingers while you recite the creed?

Wow, that's such a fascinating theological question, Stefanie! 

I wonder if that is what Unitairan Sam Tideman does in his Trinitarian church, or  does he just stay silent?

1:42:00  Theology is incredibly important if you want to be reasonably certain that you are worshiping the correct deity correctly since not to worship the correct deity correctly means you are guilty of idolatry, which is a mortal sin making you Hell-bound.

The matriarchy does not want us to take theology seriously or believe in the afterlife where good will be rewarded and evil punished because that would create principled men prepared to defend their religious principles. Instead, Western governments have been making Christians to all intents and purposes think and behave like atheists through their validating of cultural Christianity. 

Cultural Christians are basically people who do not worship the Trinity or even believe in God and the afterlife. 

Atheists and nihilists can only be motivated by carrot and stick, like cattle, making them easy to bribe and threaten. 

1:44:48

@stefaniecristos8514

​​And we all have theology, whether we like it or not.

Yes, we all have our different perceptions of God. 

1:49:00  I like a good sermon too. 

1:50:00  We all want our politics to be supported by our religion or secular political ideology.

1:51:00  Should we be more loyal to our principles than our government? Surely that would depend on what principles our governments have? Does our prevailing political orthodoxy have any moral foundation? If so, what is it?

2:03:00  Orthodox Christianity is a camouflage for White Nationalists.

2:05:00 Mormons are a category of Christian. Mormonism is perceived as a religion that is both white and uniquely American.  

2:22:00  Ron should stop chasing the "woo" which does him more harm than good. There are already rational reasons for believing that cannot be falsified, so why keep chasing the woo? 

2:28:00  Jews and gentiles are supposed to worship the same God and certainly conceive of Him in the same way. 

2:54:00  The Koran actually specifically and explicitly forbids suicide.

If you claim Jesus is God, you should be able to entertain the idea of mortal sin and Hell

0:50  Gangsters don't use diplomacy.

1:00  Tarred by the same brush

2:00  Has the government gone mad?

3:00  TLC is a microcosm of America. 

5:00  Afterlife

7:00  The appearance of a dialogue

9:00  Microcosm and macrocosm

10:00  Lies hate truth. 

11:00  Nolan Wells

13:00  Christianity

14:00  Christian Nationalism

15:00  Irritant

16:00  Ukrainian warmonger Maksym Lysack

18:00  Scott and Brett

19:00  Sam Tideman and Annie Crawford

20:00  Burned at  the stake

21:00  Not my ancestors

22:00  The tyranny and oppression of absolute monarchy

25:00  A sensible religion

26:00  US foreign policy

Pirates and gangsters

27:00  Birds on a branch

28:00  Occupational therapy

Basket case

29:00  Being a YouTuber

Meaning Crisis

30:00  Marriage

31:00  Jzepp

32:00  Ageing and shrinking society

Spiderlings

33:00  Molech

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_Was_an_Old_Woman_Who_Lived_in_a_Shoe

35:00  The Spiritual Pie of Status

36:00  Hierarchy

40:00  Lying to yourself

The Cult of Reason and the Cult of the Supreme Being

41:00  Republic v Monarchy

42:00  Liberalism is White Supremacy.

44:00  An easy to believe belief system

45:00  The Koran > global Christian imperialism

46:00  Tucker Carlson

47:00  Spiritual benefits

48:00  Third Principle of Judaism

50:00  Children's hotel

51:00  Alcoholics and drug addicts

53:00  God is scarier than Jesus dying on a cross.

A question of perspective

1:00  Dying on pilgrimage

3:00  Guinness World Records

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinness_World_Records

10:00  Pilgrimage, holidays and holy days

11:00  Canterbury Tales

12:00  Holiday deaths

13:00  Death on pilgrimage

14:00  Bubonic plague/

15:00  Punishment for sin or God hurrying you to heaven?

16:00  Clouds with silver lining

17:00  Et in arcadia ego

George Washington - the American Sage

18:00  Examples of lazy thinking

19:00  Is the cure really worse than the disease?

20:00  Trying Secular Koranism

21:00  Why wouldn't people who believe in God obey God's laws?

22:00  TLC

23:00  Values of bloviating

24:00  Fake engagement and lack of follow through

25:00  Facts and logic reign supreme.

Valid and sound arguments

Deduction and empiricism

26:00  From timing you out to burning you at the stake

27:00  PVK pandering to mediocrity

28:00  Crabs in s bucket

29:00  Envy, outrage and compulsive malignity 

30:00  Theology and idolatry

31:00  Social reason for identifying as Trinitarian

32:00  Holy Land

33:00  Zionism

INTERVAL

40:00  Believing in lies

41:00  Conceptual, abstract and theoretical

42:00  The First Amendment

43:00  William & Mary College

44:00  Secular Koranism is not Islam.

45:00  Beliefs

46:00  Burden of proof

47:00  Presupposition

48:00  An official moral system

49:00  Declaration of Independence

50:00  The Trinity

51:00  Rectification of Names

52:00  Sharia

53:00  Second class citizens < equal citizens

54:00  Secular theocracy

55:00  Defining the rule of law

56:00  Criminal standard of proof

57:00  Four witness requirement

59:00  quran.com/4/15

1:00:00  Live sex show

1:01:00  House arrest

1:03:00  American on American violence

1:04:00  Repent before you die.

1:05:00  Mike saying the shahada 

1:07:00  Murder

1:08:00  The Abrahamic God forbids racism.

1:09:00  The SK baseball cap

1:11:00  Licensing laws are Islamic.

1:12:00  A period of grace of one year

1:13:00  The rules of evidence

1:17:00  Hurried to heaven or punished for sin

1:18:00  Safari park

1:19:00  Crime of passion

1:20:00  Free DNA test for married fathers

1:21:00  Suicide

1:22:00  https://quran.com/an-nisa/29

1:24:00  Bathplug analogy

Are Christians pretending gay marriage does not matter one way or the other?

1:01:47

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​I suspect PVK of voting to accept gay marriage. Does anyone know for sure?

1:02:28

@Jzepp

​​I don’t care how he votes.

1:03:01

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@Jzepp Because you support gay marriage?

1:03:29

@Jzepp

​​Why do you care?

1:05:05

@Jzepp

​​I really like PVK. His politics won’t change that.

1:06:05

@Jzepp

​​Pick reality apart and be left with nothing but useless parts.

1:07:07

@Jzepp

​​What does that have to do with PVK. Are you assuming his race determines something about him? What does that sound like?

1:10:28

@Jzepp

​​So you are citing Dutch history and applying it to PVK?

1:10:37

@Jzepp

​​Weird.

The Timeline of Secular Koranism

The Guardian uses a timeline to give the chronology of a developing event. 

My compulsion to correct the false premises of Christianity

3:00  The timeline of Islam

4:00  The Word = Tetragrammaton

5:00  The biggest idea of all

7:00  Higher Power

8:00  Rabbi Mizrachi has spoken to Adam Green..

9:00  Turning the supertanker of the matriarchy around

10:00  Writing and writers

Taking God's laws literally

11:00  Scripture

14:00  The omniscient Abrahamic God

15:00  The real meaning of the story of Abel and Cain

16:00  TLC voters

17:00  Everything that ever happened was meant to happen.

18:00  Narratives are more important than facts?

Is it good to die on pilgrimage?

11:45 AM

@teestrypzSOG

​#1

​Morgan Freeman has been old all my life

11:47 AM

@OOOTLAM

​​Morgan Freeman currently resides primarily in Mississippi, specifically on a 124-acre ranch near Charleston. He also maintains a secondary home in NYC to stay connected to the entertainment industry.

11:48 AM

@OOOTLAM

#3

​It's near Cape Fear, if anyone has been watching that.

11:51 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​The official state autopsy for Nolan Wells has been completed and will be presented to a grand jury, which will determine whether charges are warranted.

11:52 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​Ben Crump, the family’s attorney, announced that the grand jury review is the next step, as the report remains sealed from public release.

11:54 AM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​@KenDolli Are you saying Tate Reeves is evil?

12:00 PM

@OOOTLAM

#3

​@chrishoward8473 Do you know Tennessee Williams came from Mississippi?

12:01 PM

@OOOTLAM

#3

​Stella was the sister of Blanche DuBois.

12:02 PM

@OOOTLAM

#3

​What fun!

12:04 PM

@OOOTLAM

#3

​We just need a minimum standard of universal morality ie general acceptance of the Noahide laws in principle, at least.

12:06 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

​​Kids who want to have fun / party in college head south these days…

12:07 PM

@OOOTLAM

#3

​Actually, hypocrites can also be Jews and Muslims who won't discuss idolatry. They are also part of the problem.

12:08 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​Ha, I don’t doubt it, Ken

12:09 PM

@OOOTLAM

​​I do take Jewish TC to task from time to time when I remember. There are no Muslims in TLC for obvious reasons.

12:10 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​Why would you say that, Ken? And yes, I’m aware of the Nolan Wells case. And I pray justice will prevail.

12:11 PM

@OOOTLAM

​​@KenDolli Discussing US foreign policy would be disturbing and uncomfortable. The media is carefully managed to address female readers not inclined to question too much.

12:11 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​I was laughing about the Southern officials declaring state of emergency for spring break, not Caribbean nationals being banned from corporate owned beaches.

12:13 PM

@OOOTLAM

​​Zelensky was carefully chosen to play the part to appeal to women who don't know their own history and care even less of the history of countries their government invades, bombs and mass murders.

12:14 PM

@OOOTLAM

​​Did you know the Koran actually has principles on international relations and warfare? That would tend to prevent war crimes but try explaining that to a woman.

12:15 PM

@OOOTLAM

​​Women don't care about military policy because they don't expect to be conscripted. That is why they just don't give a damn.

12:16 PM

@OOOTLAM

​​Zelensky has a full head of hair and used to be a comedian. Oh, and his wife has been on Vogue! This means he must be a good guy!

12:16 PM

@OOOTLAM

​​The stupidity is sickening.

12:17 PM

@OOOTLAM

​​Women can become victims of their government's foreign policy when the war is lost and a foreign army invades. Women have always been booty.

12:19 PM

@OOOTLAM

​​@KenDolli Stefanie doesn't like you because you disturb her peace and her idea that everyone must be happy like her.

12:19 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​Ken, I’, sorry, you are ascribing the wrong motives on me. I wasn’t laughing because I thought it was funny, I was laughing because it is so ridiculous.

12:20 PM

@OOOTLAM

#3

​@stefaniecristos8514 Oh don't worry. He is always accusing everyone of raacism all the time.

12:20 PM

@OOOTLAM

#3

​Telling people not to be racist just makes them want to be racist more IMHO.

12:20 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​I like Ken just fine and I have asked to speak with him, which he has not responded to. Why would you say I don’t like Ken, Claire? Justify your accusations.

12:21 PM

@OOOTLAM

#3

​@stefaniecristos8514 It wasn't an accusation, just an assumption. So you like Ken accusing you of racism? I just assumed you wouldn't.

12:22 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​I know the world is an unjust place and always has been. Nonetheless I choose joy and try to maintain my peace. No matter how hard you two work to disturb it. Namaste 🙏 🧘‍♀

12:25 PM

@OOOTLAM

#3

​You can't expect people to care about you if they don't like you eg Jews complaining about antisemitism, Muslims complaining about Islamophobia. The Koran says we should be fair to our enemies though

12:26 PM

@OOOTLAM

#3

​Bigotry and chauvinism is its own punishment.

12:26 PM

@OOOTLAM

#3

​@KenDolli What attracted you to TLC?

12:27 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​I feel I am being accused of all types of thought crimes against which there is no defense.

12:28 PM

@AT_Shipley

​​Accusations of thought crimes in YouTube chats have little weight in my book.

12:28 PM

@OOOTLAM

#3

​I was reading about George Wythe who perfectly illustrated the harm white people can cause themselves by depriving blacks of the right to testify. Wythe taught Jefferson law.

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12:29 PM

@OOOTLAM

​​@AT_Shipley You dismiss the opinions of non-Christians, I know.]

12:31 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​ I’m making up the guest bed for Megan’s visit later today. Looking forward to that1😊

12:55 PM

@OOOTLAM

​​People who do these crazy things are atheists.

12:56 PM

@YawnGod

​​@OOOTLAM So if there is a counterexample does the universe poof out of existence? 🤔

12:56 PM

@OOOTLAM

​​@YawnGod A counter-example of what?

12:57 PM

@williambranch4283

​​Yawngod ... shows why generalizations are BS. There are always counterexamples if you look hard enough

12:57 PM

@YawnGod

​​@OOOTLAM Killing yourself by walking or running a long way....I mean, do you speak English?

12:57 PM

@williambranch4283

​​Concepts are tools not ends in themselves

12:58 PM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​@YawnGod Try asking your question with all the words in one sentence.

12:58 PM

@YawnGod

​​@OOOTLAM Do you not think that an old person has died during a pilgrimage to a religious site?

12:59 PM

@williambranch4283

​​There are even chapels for all the pilgrims who die near their destination

1:00 PM

@OOOTLAM

#2

​@YawnGod A person dying on pilgrimage would be considered more holy than someone who died doing something else, I imagine.

1:00 PM

@williambranch4283

​​Not counting the sick who are seeking a miraculous cure

1:00 PM

@YawnGod

​​@OOOTLAM I think their family members would disagree.

1:00 PM

@OOOTLAM

​#2

​@YawnGod It would depend on whether their family shares the same religious views.