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Wednesday, 22 July 2026

Honor/Shame, Innocence/Guilt, and...Power/Fear


2:00  Patriarchy and social conservatism

5:00  Paul never met Jesus. Not heard of the Jefferson Bible?

AI Overview                 

Muslims view Paul (the Apostle) as the figure responsible for corrupting Jesus' original teachings. They generally believe he distorted a strict, monotheistic message into the foundational doctrines of modern Christianity.

Key reasons for this theological rejection include:

Introduction of the Trinity: Muslims believe Jesus was a mortal prophet. They argue that Paul introduced Hellenistic and Roman concepts, shifting the focus to Jesus' divinity and the concept of the Trinity, which directly contradicts the core Islamic tenet of Tawhid (absolute oneness of God).

Abolishing the Law: Jesus followed and preached strict adherence to Mosaic law. Muslims point out that Paul dismantled these laws, including dietary restrictions and circumcision, thus altering the religious requirements Jesus laid out.

The Doctrine of the Cross: In Islam, Jesus was not crucified; instead, God saved him. Paul's emphasis on salvation through the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus is rejected, as it conflicts with the Islamic view that salvation is achieved through faith and righteous deeds.

AI Overview

Thomas Jefferson excluded the Pauline Epistles from the Jefferson Bible because he viewed Paul as the "first corrupter" of Jesus's original teachings. Jefferson wanted to isolate Jesus’s pure moral philosophy from any theological additions, supernatural claims, or institutional church doctrines. 

Why Jefferson Rejected Paul 
Doctrinal Changes: Jefferson believed Jesus taught a rational, ethical system focused on inward transformation. He felt Paul shifted Christianity away from these moral teachings and toward complex doctrines, such as original sin, the Trinity, and salvation through Christ's blood. 

Distrust of Clergy: As a Deist and Enlightenment thinker, Jefferson was highly critical of organized religion and priests. He considered Pauline theology to be the foundation of a priesthood that used mysticism to accumulate wealth and political power. 

Scope of the Jefferson Bible 
The resulting work, formally titled The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth, was a heavily edited compilation restricted exclusively to the Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John). Even within the Gospels, Jefferson physically cut and pasted only the ethical verses, while completely removing all accounts of miracles, angels, and the Resurrection. 

You can learn more about Jefferson's religious and philosophical perspectives through resources provided by the Thomas Jefferson Foundation.
Thomas Jefferson was a proto-Muslim Noahide. 

12:00  Christianity is an imperial religion. All imperial religions are civic nationalist. Islam is the better imperial religion because it is the religion with a holy book containing a verse that supports the First Amendment. 

16:00  Different ideas of right and wrong are caused by different ideas of morality in competing moral systems. 

18:00  These are distinctions without a difference. 

20:00  The law is objective.

21:00  Even dogs display shame, guilt and fear.

27:00  Secular Koranism with American Characteristics does not interpret away the wife-beating verse. 

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Political theology


1:00  House of Cards built on sand < House of Facts and Logic built on Divine Scripture

4:00  Denial

Moral convictions based on Noahide laws

5:00  Antisemites reject the Noahide laws just because they are Jewish. 

6:00  Antisemitism and their absurd beliefs eg the Trinity

Why do antisemites worship a Jew?

7:00  Rabbi Mizrachi talking Sneako, Adam Green, Megyn Kelly and Tucker Carlson

8:00  Islam and sharia is better than Christianity which is a corpse that should now be buried. 

10:00  Dumb Christians who base their belief in Jesus on a funny feeling they had when they walked  down Camden High Street 20 years ago

11:00  Christians are lowering in status rapidly. 

12:00  There is only one Abrahamic God. 

15:00  Religion is useful.

16:00  Noble lie

17:00  The divine bargain

19:00  Secular political ideologies like Communism becoming the political orthodoxy

22:00  Pseudo-Risto prefers his civilisation to crash and burn

23:00  Pessimism is rejection of God. 

25:00  Convictionless cunts

26:00  The Propositional Tyranny of the Trinity

Nihilists and atheists who don't know why they are here

27:00  Brett has no moral convictions he would like to defend based on facts and logic.

28:00  The political orthodoxy can change from time to time and age and age. 

29:00  Values eg sexual liberation, obedience

30:00  Spirituality

31:00  Outlawing extramarital sex

32:00  Paul Vanderklay has no moral convictions he would like to share. They are certainly not based on the Trinity.

33:00  Political orthodoxy is political theocracy.

34:00  Hypocrites are Hell-bound.
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On Tisha B'Av 5786


11:40 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Tisha B'Av begins at sundown.

11:41 AM
@YoavBressler
#3
​Happy birthday, then, Claire.

11:41 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Humility and honesty are virtues because they allow us to correct our mistakes more quickly.

11:42 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​@YoavBressler Thanks! It was actually on 4 Av 5786.

11:44 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​I was just using Jewish calendar, Chris. Nothing that secret.

11:44 AM
@YoavBressler
#3
​אבא לא בא בא' באב, אבל אבא בא בב" באב. is a valid hebrew sentence

11:44 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​The Messiah is supposed to have a birthday on Tisha B'Av. That why I am mentioning it.

11:47 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​I listen to the conversation Jacob has on his streams and then I listen to the younger TLC. Quite a contrast. It does highlight the role of religion quite effectively.

11:50 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​MGTOW men say White Knights are stupid.

11:50 AM
@βρεττς
​​Sounds like walking on eggshells to me

11:52 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Rage baiting is for idolaters who make an idol of their emotions. In an uncertain world, we feel sure when we are feeling angry and fearful. That's how governments start wars with support of cattle.

11:53 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​If most people are atheists and nihilists, the only you can motivate them towards war is to give them narratives that induce greed, fear and anger.

11:54 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​I keep explaining why the rules actually protect you if they are fair enough, but Islamophobes like to worship their idol of Islamophobia.

11:56 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​I will give this to Christians: they are right in saying pride is a deadly sin.

11:56 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​The cattle are allergic to the truth.

11:57 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Ezra was being hospitable by giving a space for the people who wanted to post in the chat.

11:57 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Ezra probably wanted a captive audience for the weird music he was playing.

11:58 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​It was music for stoned people.

11:58 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Most of young TLC are potheads, probably. Ezra has the look of a pothead.

11:58 AM
@SeekingGenuine
​​Did you enjoy that stream, Claire?

11:59 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​There is that glazed look in the eyes.

11:59 AM
@YoavBressler
#3
​Or, like with me on that show, there was a YT bug

12:00 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@SeekingGenuine It was interesting in that it made me think of the kind of music Ezra made.

12:01 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Did anyone listen to Sam Tideman stream on God being powerful?

12:01 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Yeah, Claire, it’s been so interesting listening and watching the art people are into and capable of making

12:01 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@SeekingGenuine And the kind of pothead audience that would like it.

12:03 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Haha I suppose so, Claire. It definitely adds to that type of mental state or gets you into a similar mental state

12:03 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#2
​A lot of people just talk for the sake of talking because they think if they are talking and people are listening they are higher status than listeners.

12:05 PM
@anselman3156
​​Does Brett have favourite theologians on the Trinity?

12:05 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Christians are supposed to believe in the Trinity but they don't really and it is doing their head in. Clinging to their Christian identity is actually causing them harm.

12:05 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@anselman3156 I resent you repeating your accusation that I want to persecute Christians.

12:06 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@anselman3156 The first Trinitarian was Athanasius.

12:06 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@anselman3156 Under SK there will be a Register of Religions.

12:06 PM
@anselman3156
​​The first Trinitarian was God

12:07 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@anselman3156 Chapter and verse, please!

12:08 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Under SK, everyone will be put on a Register of Moral Systems.

12:09 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​In the UK, the police divide the races with IC codes 1 to 5.

12:10 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​There will also be a Register of Races under SK.

12:11 PM
@KenDolli
​​key lime pie too

12:12 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​I was telling Meg and Stefanie about my proposed Register of Unmarried Parents divided into Repentant Unmarried Parents and Repentant Unmarried Parents.

12:13 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​The legitimate offspring of married parents go to A Schools, the illegitimate offspring of unmarried parents would go to B or B+ Schools.

12:14 PM
@KenDolli
​​Key West threaten secession from from the union

12:15 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​If you are an Unrepentant Unmarried Parent ("UUP"), your children would go to B School. If you are a Repentant Unmarried Parent ("RUP"), your children would go B+ School. Is this fair enough?

12:16 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​All three categories of school would have the same facilities and resources.

12:16 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Under SK, co-education in high school would end.

12:18 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​The American tradition of the high school prom would continue, but under strict adult supervision. In the last year of high school, there would be lessons in ballroom dancing to prepare for prom.

12:19 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​What do you think, @KenDolli?

12:19 PM
@KenDolli
​​Ryan's Anglican cosplay hour, grab your Achilles tights lol

12:21 PM
@KenDolli
​​Claire there has been an effort to destroy public schools since integration and white flight, hence private schools & homeschooling, and now charter schools further strips parents role in the process

12:22 PM
@anselman3156
​​How may one discourage birds from bombing the washing on the line?

12:22 PM
@KenDolli
​​public school model parents are supposed to be involved in the school board to decide such practices

12:24 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Americans must ask for what they want and are entitled to as parents. But most of them are neither married nor marriageable. Therefore they are only killing time and quietly quitting.

12:30 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Therefore Americans must acknowledge that Christianity has failed to protect the following institutions: monarchy, marriage and the family.

12:35 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​It is entirely predictable that the matriarchy would seek to perpetuate itself.

12:35 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Herman Melville was not a Trinitarian. Neither was Nathaniel Hawthorne.

12:36 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​American philosophers have tended towards Unitarianism and away from Trinitarianism.

12:36 PM
@anselman3156
​​Isn't there an ancient Aryan concern for the conserving of cattle as something sacred? The inrush of evil into the world attacked the primeval Ox

12:37 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Asking why Muslims have not acquired empire as great as Christians is saying you believe might is right.

12:37 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
​​KenDoli, did you read Barbara Kingsolver’s The Poisonwood Bible and if so, what did you think of it?

12:38 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Iranians got their country back with Islam.

12:38 PM
@alohm
​​Yellowstone and their wolves - they had to be reintroduced

12:40 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​All empires decline and fall. Thalassocracies decline and fall faster than tellurocracies.

12:41 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Laws can be imposed on societies **while supporting the First Amendment**.

12:42 PM
@anselman3156
​​Jellystone is where the Indian sage bear Yogi lived.

12:43 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​There will always be a political orthodoxy, and it will be imposed. Carl Schmitt even calls it POLITICAL THEOCRACY.

12:46 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#2
​Nathan (bison) cares a ton I think

12:47 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​How about sacrificing your idols of wrongthink?

12:47 PM
@anselman3156
​​I had a wild horse in a wildlife park attack my stationary car

12:48 PM
@chrishoward8473
​​We had a girraffe in a wildlife park steal my daughters sandwich through the vehicle window

12:48 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
​​Ken, it was such a good story about the clash of cultures and power politics, and good and evil battling in every human heart

12:49 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#1
​If you have convictions, you would be prepared to defend them rather than your Propositional Tyrants.
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Tuesday, 21 July 2026

The propositions in the Declaration of Independence are Islamic



1:00  I am the opposite of being a nihilist.
2:00  A nihilist is someone who is proud not to have religious principles. 
3:00  Cult of personalities on YouTube

Victims of scams reluctant to admit they have been scammed. 

5:00  The purpose of the Trinity

Theology is the final frontier of politics. 

6:00  There is only one Abrahamic God. 

7:00  Would Secular Koranism solve the problem?

8:00  Atheists also benefit from the rule of law. 

9:00  Seneca on religion

11:00  The wise are good.

12:00  Are all religions false?

13:00  Idolatry, blasphemy, fornication, adultery and sodomy are mortal  sins. 

14:00  How is Christianity not idolatry and how is Jesus God?

15:00  Asking the logical next question

16:00  Mortal sins

17:00  Only confirmed Christians should be allowed to claim Christian identity. 

18:00  Religious groups are the most powerful groups in the world. 

19:00  Cultural Christians must be separated from believing Christians. 

20:00  Jordan Peterson is atheist. 

Marginalised and degenerate men in a matriarchy

21:00  Convictions

22:00  Noahide laws

23:00  Cultural Christians have no moral convictions.

24:00  Convictions and propositions

25:00  PVK does not Christian convictions.

26:00  The problem of Christianity for Christians over the centuries

27:00  Monarchy, marriage and the family are the three institutions failed by Christianity.

28:00  MAID

29:00  No sharia criminalilsing extramarital sex

30:00  Liberalism is the operating political orthodoxy. 

31:00  Mortal sins

32:00  Christians hate rules.

33:00  Christendom ended in 1918.

34:00  Christians lie to themselves. 

35:00  All good comes from God.

The God of Ideas

36:00  Occasionalism

37:00  Christianity is still the religion of the American Empire.

38:00  Christianity has failed to support the institutions of marriage and the family. 

39:00  Founding Fathers were the first Europeans to move away from Christianity. 

40:00  Christianity discourages Christians from asking questions.

41:00  The First Amendment gives us the space to be wrong. 

42:00  The Church of England still exists to defend the divine right of the British monarch. 

43:00  Christianity is a divine practical joke played on idolaters who worship an executed blasphemer. 

44:00  The Noahide laws

Christians are being lowered in status anyway. 

45:00  Christianity is waning. 

First Amongst Equals

50:00  Syncretism

51:00  Jews were easily ignored after the Roman Conquest of Judea. 

52:00  Koran > Torah > The New Testament

Polygamous Mormonism

53:00  The benefits polygamy

54:00  Whig history

55:00  The English were the first perpetrators of regicide. 

56:00  Church of England > Catholic Church

57:00  Mogadishu and Yugoslavia

The law should be fair enough to the majority.

58:00  Our corrupt and incompetent rulers censor information that should reach them. 

59:00  Christianity is like a parachute that won't open or food unfit for human consumption. 

1:00:00  The propositions in the Declaration of Independence are in fact Islamic. 
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Why is it so hard for Americans to understand that the Founding Fathers were the first Europeans to move away from Christianity?


11:52 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​There only one Abrahamic God who forbade idolatry. Anthropomorphism is idolatry. Brett is going to make Megan ban me from commenting.

11:52 AM
@Jzepp
​#2
​Have you ever been on a jury Chris?

11:52 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Claire, I do not plan to ban you

11:53 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Megan pretended to ask me questions and then deleted my answers.

11:53 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​I’m sorry you feel I pretended

11:53 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​That’s good to know, Megan.

11:53 AM
@βρεττς
​​I can’t make anybody do anything. As you can see, she’s her own woman. And I was the one that muted you, and it automatically deletes your questions.

11:54 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​Megan told me yesterday that my answers were deleted .

11:57 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​We may not agree on everything but can we agree that Chris is so wholesome in a ball cap?

11:57 AM
@OOOTLAM
​​If we have moral convictions, we should defend them. Brett has no moral convictions he cares to defend.

11:57 AM
@βρεττς
​​I wonder if Seth Rogen just sees the Muppets nowadays is nostalgic for all the people and that’s the audience he targeting. Do modern kids watch the Muppets?

11:58 AM
@OOOTLAM
​​It is the people who have no moral convictions who are atheists and nihilists.

11:58 AM
@Jzepp
#2
​All communication carries a message, that’s kind of the point.

11:58 AM
@βρεττς
​​I have enough moral conviction to ban you from my channel. lol.

11:59 AM
@OOOTLAM
​​What moral convictions have you, Brett, other than being Chief Censor?

11:59 AM
@OOOTLAM
​​Megan should beware of Brett who has nothing to offer.

11:59 AM
@βρεττς
​​Romans 16 17-18 I already told you. But you don’t listen ever you pretend to.

12:00 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​We should be grateful that people care enough about us to disagree with us.

12:00 PM
@βρεττς
​​I don’t ban people for simple disagreement, but if you would continue to not listen to me and be in relationship with me and do what Claire does then probably. But I don’t believe that to be your❤

12:01 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​I seem to remember Hitler saying that the worst time in his political career was when no one cared enough to disrupt his meetings.

12:02 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​I am not even telling people not to believe in God and am still waiting for people to ask me what is the harm of idolatry if God does not exist to punish it. Are atheists afraid of outing themselves?

12:03 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@KenDolli Why should anyone take the Archbishop of Canterbury past or present seriously? The English joke that they can't even get one that believes in God now.

12:04 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​So, Brett, apart from being convinced that you are the one to monopolise the conversation and censor everyone, what moral convictions have you? Do you even understand the question?

12:06 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​Brett, you should know that the Koran also warns Muslims against sectarianism. God > Paul

12:06 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@KenDolli What does it say? I seem to remember looking it up but forgot about it almost immediately.

12:08 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​"Truth" can be the opinion of the powerful eg the monarch and the supporting act of the priesthood.

12:09 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@KenDolli And so it has, but Christianity is now a spent force. That 's all I am saying. I never said Christianity never did Christians any good and even said its chief benefit was monogamy.

12:12 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@KenDolli Read the post on Muslim Skeptic's channel on Christianity. I think it was historically accurate.

12:12 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​If you can't attract attention in a good way, attract it in a bad way?

12:13 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Bad publicity is still publicity

12:13 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​I do hope @chrishoward8473 will acknowledge that I am not a nihilist.

12:14 PM
@Jzepp
#2
​Claire and Ken, you should do your own channel.

12:14 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​Brett, can you do a stream about your moral convictions and why you think they do not need to be defended?

12:14 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@Jzepp He won't come out of the lurk. I have invited him more than once.

12:15 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​@Oootlam I hope Claire will send me a Christmas card this year

12:15 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@chrishoward8473 A nihilist is someone who is proud that he has no moral principles.

12:16 PM
@βρεττς
​​Attack attack attack

12:16 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​@oootlam a Christmas card is a piece of paper with a picture that says ‘Merry Christmas’

12:16 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@chrishoward8473 I am saying the Trinity is idolatry and Jefferson rejected the Trinity. Surely this is of interest to Americans??

12:16 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@chrishoward8473 There is nothing wrong with being useful!!

12:17 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@chrishoward8473 Even atheists use their secular political ideologies.

12:17 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​@oootlam there is nothing wrong with Christmas cards

12:17 PM
@Jzepp
#2
​I’m here because I like Chris’ ramblings.😬

12:18 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@chrishoward8473 The Unitarian Church is uniquely American, is it not? But then so is Mormonism.

12:18 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​@oootlam even SK will send Christmas cards sometimes.

12:18 PM
@Jzepp
#2
​Are you going through menopause Chris?

12:19 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@chrishoward8473 I am actually making a case for a living God who takes an interest in humanity and has sent us messages and made us laws.

12:19 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​@oootlam the Christmas card industry is even alive and active in England, is it not? But then again so it big paper industry.

12:19 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@chrishoward8473 I am saying also that a proposition nation is really a theocracy, ha!

12:19 PM
@Jzepp
#2
​The US needs one more religion though. Secular Koranism. Right?

12:20 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​The US Declaration of Independence contains a list of propositions.

12:20 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​God is useful!

12:20 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​@oootlam WHY WONT YOU SIMPLY ANSWER MY QUESTIONS!

12:20 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​Voltaire said "If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent Him"!

12:21 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​@Eolson-helper I'll send you an email Xmas greeting, OK?

12:21 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​But the point is God NECESSARY for morality!

12:21 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​@oootlam I’m saying that Christmas cards support the south Mediterranean paper cabal.

12:21 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​Useful = necessary

12:22 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
​Useful is relative to a goal. What if the goal is evil?

12:22 PM
@OOOTLAM
​​Fewer and fewer people send Xmas cards because postage stamps cost the earth now.

12:23 PM
@SeekingGenuine
​#1
​We have to say “happy holidays” in workplaces, because “merry Christmas” is not PC

12:23 PM
@Eolson-helper
​​@oootlam are you saying I’m not worth the price of a postage stamp?

12:24 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
​​the Claire Howard show

12:24 PM
@Jzepp
#2
​Pragmatism is not new. It did not deliver the Utopia.

12:25 PM
@AT_Shipley
​​Is anyone else experiencing DejaVu?

12:26 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
​​Fax and lojik

12:26 PM
@Jzepp
#2
​Facts and Logic, blah blah. 💤💤💤

12:26 PM
@Tunji-504
​​bye Frens

12:26 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
​​MORE LIBERTY

12:28 PM
@βρεττς
​​Still waiting for the question lol

12:29 PM
@βρεττς
​​I thought that this was what your channel was for Claire, so you could monologue

12:31 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
​​Claire have you ever been to America

12:32 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​​A few times.

12:32 PM
@anselman3156
​​Romans 2

12:33 PM
@anselman3156
​​God makes people with an inbuilt sense and speaks to conscience about what is good

12:34 PM
@βρεττς
​​Romans 1:20

12:35 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
​​lol

12:36 PM
@anselman3156
​​Claire's project is attack the Christians with false accusations of idolatry. Claire is a combo of militant islam and chabadism

12:37 PM
@βρεττς
​​ἀναπολόγητος Without excuse

12:38 PM
@Skankenstein
​​this is what y'all get up to in the wee hours of the morning?!?!

12:41 PM
@βρεττς
​​Both you and Sam play Candace. You come up with conspiracies and have your thoughts and push them on history.

12:41 PM
@anselman3156
​​Islam, like modern Judism, is a reaction against Christianity, borrowing elements of true religion and twisting them to another system/cult

12:43 PM
@anselman3156
​​Chabad cult wants o persecute Christians for "idolatry"

12:44 PM
@anselman3156
​​Claire's antichristianism demands "Noahide" laws to persecute Christians

12:45 PM
@βρεττς
​​Wrong

12:45 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
​​the Episcopalians are at the top lol

12:46 PM
@anselman3156
​​Claire's Law: Behead the Jesus worshippers

12:47 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
​​Claire in America we grill ribs and waterski all together equally

12:49 PM
@anselman3156
​​Jesus arranges for his church to thrive under various political systems, whether hostile or favourable. King Jesus reigns

12:50 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
​​link?

12:51 PM
@YawnGod
​​Given that there are Christian denominations...the Kingdom of Heaven is more like the Empire of Heaven and Jesus is Emperor with his vassal denominations.

12:51 PM
@anselman3156
​​Claire's inveterate hatred of the truth of God the Father, Son and Holy Ghost is a diabolical obsession.

12:51 PM
@YoavBressler
​​Let my Howard go!

12:52 PM
@anselman3156
​​Peace Chad

12:52 PM
@YawnGod
​​Jews at Israeli universities tend to think more worldly regarding authorships 📜🤔

12:53 PM
@YoavBressler
​​@YawnGod refering to what?

12:53 PM
@YawnGod
​​All Gods fall to the gap. 🕳

12:53 PM
@Skankenstein
​​typically the caae with christians at university too

12:53 PM
@YawnGod
​​@YoavBressler They are regular anthropologists who are atheist.

12:54 PM
@YoavBressler
​​Were they not , they would be in a Yeshiva

12:54 PM
@anselman3156
​​"revelation" can dress up "my desires and imaginative systems"

12:54 PM
@YawnGod
​​@YoavBressler Yes. Excellently considered 💯

12:56 PM
@YawnGod
​​Dot AKA Mary had the best assessment of Ms. Khaw:

12:56 PM
@YawnGod
​​Why do you want these white guys to fight your fight for you?

12:57 PM
@YoavBressler
​​The anti-Dot to SK, she is

12:59 PM
@Skankenstein
​​God is a judge? how western od you

1:01 PM
@YoavBressler
​​only recently has Claire change here profile icon to a gibbon

1:01 PM
@YawnGod
​​Ape no kill Ape. Together, Ape strong

1:01 PM
@KenDolli
​​you called Africans primitive earlier in the convo

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51:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins to say being useful is a good thing.

Preference is lower than necessity. To be absolutely necessary is more urgent than being merely necessary.  

53:00  Even Atheists acknowledge the necessity of law. 

Is liberalism necessarily the best ideology around?

54:00  Too much liberty leads to the law of the jungle. 

55:00  King John had the support of the Pope in repudiating Magna Carta.

56:00  The Founding Fathers wanted to keep the monarchy at bay. So having sent George III packing after the American Revolution, it was necessary to separate Christianity from their republic. 

57:00  Men were created equal with certain unalienable rights and amongst them are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. 

58:00  God is the supreme authority and sets a universal standard for morality through His laws which those who claim to believe in Him must obey.

59:00  God's Commandments.

1:00:00  Mortal and fallible people could certainly agree to obey the Noahide laws.

1:01:00  Does all good come from God? 

AI Overview

OCCASIONALISM
The view that God continually creates the universe anew at every single moment is known as Occasionalism. Several theologians and philosophers across different religious traditions have championed this concept: 

Al-Ghazali (1058–1111): A prominent medieval Islamic theologian who formalized this concept in Sunni Islam. He argued that created objects have no independent power to cause anything (e.g., fire does not burn cotton by itself); rather, God creates each and every event directly at that exact moment. 

Nicolas Malebranche (1638–1715): A French Catholic philosopher and theologian who took Cartesian philosophy and merged it with Christian theology to argue that God is the only true cause. He maintained that the physical world acts merely as the "occasion" for God to perform a new act of creation. 

Jonathan Edwards (1703–1758): A prominent American Reformed theologian who taught the doctrine of "continuous creation." He argued that God's upholding of the world is a series of repeated, moment-by-moment new creations out of nothing, entirely independent of the universe's past existence. 
1:02:00  Choosing the best religion available

1:04:00  Creating a new and better legal, moral and political system

1:05:00  Which Christian denomination is best?

1:06:00  Fear of being ostracised makes us stay within our group,

1:07:00  The utility of religion

1:08:00  China has modified Marxism to Socialism with Chinese Characteristics.

1:10:00  The Noahide laws

1:11:00  Is it Christianity that runs America?

1:12:00  Syncretism

1:13:00  Episcopalians failed in America. 

1:14:00  A constitutional republic is most likely to protect the rights of the people. 

First Amongst Equals

1:15:00  God does not support absolute monarchy.

1:16:00  God values obedience. 

1:17:00   The Trinity

1:18:00  Bahai

1:19:00  Divine revelation is what Jews and Muslims enjoy. 

1:20:00  Book of Mormon

The competition of the deities has led to the  Abrahamic God. 

1:22:00  Communism is always attractive when people are feeling poor. 

1:23:00  Whig history

1:24:00  Seneca

1:25:00  How will Mormons be judged by God?

Universalism

1:26:00  Mogadishu

Yugoslavia
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The silver lining in the cloud of being censored; talking to Tayo, Marcher and Mike Malzahn


Curating my comments expecting them to be deleted

3:00  Further and better particulars
Olson

4:00  Christianity is perceived to be white.

6:00  Ad hominem

9:00   Tertullian

10:00  Those who live by the sword die by the sword.

11:00  Brett and Olson

12:00   Females of TLC


14:00  Chad is the walking wounded of the matriarchy.

15:00   Feminine risk aversion

16:00  How I would  implement Secular Koranism

18:00  The parachute that didn't open but is used again and again and again

19:00  Your wives and your children are enemies to you.

Being our own worst enemies

20:00  Maintenance

21:00  Risk averse women

22:00  The objectives of the Founding Fathers

23:00  Don't rock the boat.

24:00  Solving the problem of ever worsening government

25:00   Men who have a problem with authority.

The social disease of bastardy

26:00  Wheat and tares

28:00  The evil inclination

The accusation of being a Judaizer

29:00  My conversation with Megan Goldsby and Stefanie Cristos

31:00  Racist

32:00  Liberalism is also White Supremacy

33:00  Imperial supremacy

Secular Koranism

35:00  When intelligent men talk nonsense

36:00  Chad

38:00  Being a real person

40:00  Nobody is going to get  killed.

41:00  Matriarchy

Abolishing no fault divorce

43:00  People who say "I would  rather die."

44:00  George Washington's farewell speech

46:00  Broken beta losers

O G Rose

Sacred  social order

47:00  Christian mediocrities

MY FAVOURITE THINGS

Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens
Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens
Brown paper packages tied up with strings
These are a few of my favorite things
Cream-colored ponies and crisp apple strudels
Doorbells and sleigh bells and schnitzel with noodles
Wild geese that fly with the moon on their wings
These are a few of my favorite things
Girls in white dresses with blue satin sashes
Snowflakes that stay on my nose and eyelashes
Silver-white winters that melt into spring
These are a few of my favorite things
When the dog bites
When the bee stings
When I'm feeling sad
I simply remember my favorite things
And then I don't feel so bad

49:00  Husbands frightened of their wife

51:00  Facts and logic

52:00  Religion of our ancestors

The best religion

54:00  Being nice

Alpha male leaders

55:00  Middle class America

56:00  Fake piety

57:00  Independent thought

58:00  There is only one Abrahamic God.

59:00  Pagan antisemites

1:00:00  Codified principles

1:01:00  Beta males choosing their alpha male leader

1:02:00  No bachelors, no divorced men, no sodomites, no women, no married fathers whose children are not yet adults who are a credit to their parents

1:03:00  Social disease of illegitimacy

1:05:00  The vested interests of unmarriageable men

1:06:00  The Odyssey

1:09:00   TAYO joins

Nico's Discord server

1:11:00  E Michael Jones

Antisemitism

1:12:00  Israel

1:13:00  TLC

1:14:00  Better that the conversation is not published?

1:15:00  The war machine

1:16:00   Malign encouragement

1:17:00   America is the problem. 

Fake Christians

1:18:00  Nobody can  tell me what I have said that is untrue or illogical. 

1:19:00  Christianity

1:20:00  Secular Koranism

1:21:00  Sam Tideman

First Amendment forbids the establishment of any religion.

1:22:00  Blasphemy laws in Pakistan were gven by the British

1:23:00  Our religion should be supported by facts and logic.

1:24:00  Christianity

1:25:00  My agnosticism

1:26:00  Secular Koranism

1:27:00  MARCHER joins.

1:30:00  "You must be in a PVK Rando before we trust you."

1:32:00  Being on Tucker before one can be taken seriously

1:33:00  No platformed on MSM

1:35:00  Shared activity ie dialogue

1:36:00  Talking to Chris Howard

1:37:00  Luke Thompson and steel manning

1:39:00  Nobody wants to have a philosophical conversation about the nature and purpose of religion with me.

1:40:00  4 categories to help men choose a principled leader

1:42:00  Moral women of the West just have to support the principle that married parents should be privileged over non-parents and never married parents treated as sex offenders, but they won't even be  seen to be discussing such a thing. 

AI Overview                 

In early America, the formal legal practice of sentencing never-married mothers to public corporal punishment (such as public whipping, flogging, or the stocks) largely ceased during the late 18th century, specifically between the 1780s and the 1790s.

Following the American Revolutionary War, the newly formed United States experienced massive legal and cultural transformations that fundamentally altered how "bastardy" and non-marital births were handled.

The Shift in Punishment Methods

During the 17th and early 18th centuries, Puritan and early colonial legal codes heavily penalized unmarried pregnant women under strict fornication and bastardy laws. If a woman could not pay a financial fine, she was routinely subjected to public corporal punishment to shame her and deter the community.


However, by the late 1700s, this practice dissolved due to several major historical developments:

Rise of the Enlightenment: Post-Revolutionary American legal philosophy shifted away from public, bodily retribution. Lawmakers embraced the Enlightenment-era belief that public physical torture hardened criminals rather than reforming them.

Transition to Financial Obligations: Courts shifted their primary focus from punishing the "sin" of the mother to protecting the town's purse strings. Jurisdictions heavily favored bastardy bonds over physical violence. These bonds legally forced both the mother and the biological father to provide financial child support so the infant would not become a financial burden to the local taxpayers.

The "Cult of True Womanhood": By the turn of the 19th century, evolving cultural standards began to view women as inherently moral, delicate, and sentimental. Stripping a woman and whipping her in a town square came to be seen by the public as grotesque, inappropriate, and deeply un-American.

Institutionalization: For women who could not afford fines or support themselves, states abandoned the whipping post in favor of the newly constructed almshouses, workhouses, and penitentiaries, where the punishment became institutional labor rather than physical pain.

While social stigma, forced adoptions, and financial penalization of unwed mothers persisted deep into the 19th and 20th centuries, the physical whipping of never-married mothers by order of the state was effectively obsolete by 1800.

1:43:00  A period of grace of one year under Secular Koranism  

1:44:00  A Register of Repentant Married Parents and Unrepentant Married Parents

1:45:00  Licensed prostitutes working in licensed brothels under Secular Koranism

1:46:00  MIKE MALZAHN joins to discuss blasphemy and the difference between a republic and monarchy.

1:48:00  Abu Bakr and  the Ridda Wars

1:49:00  Apostasy

AI Overview

Abu Bakr executed apostates and rebels during the Ridda Wars (Wars of Apostasy) in 632–633 CE. Following Prophet Muhammad's death, many tribes rejected Medina's political authority, refused to pay the zakat tax, or followed false prophets. Abu Bakr launched military campaigns—led by commanders like Khalid ibn al-Walid—suppressing these rebellions, which resulted in the executions of those who refused to submit or recant. 

Historically and theologically, the nature of these executions is interpreted in a few ways: 
Political Rebellion: Many modern and historical accounts note that these campaigns were primarily political and military responses to armed insurrection and secession, rather than strictly policing private religious belief. 

Refusal of Zakat: A prominent group among the rebels acknowledged Islam but refused to pay the required alms to Abu Bakr's central government. Abu Bakr famously declared he would fight anyone who withheld even a piece of rope that was traditionally paid. 

Capital Punishment: Traditional Islamic jurisprudence (including the four major Sunni schools and several Shia sects) looks back to the rulings and precedents of Abu Bakr and the Companions to justify capital punishment for apostasy.

1:50:00  Absolute monarch > absolute dictator

Charles I > US Presidents

1:51:00  Kashoggi's death warrant signed by MBS

1:52:00  Colonial American bastardy laws

1:53:00  The Caliphate was dissolved in 1924.

1:56:00  Daee me?

1:57:00  Asia Bibi

1:58:00  "The War of Northern Aggression"

God did  not forbid slavery or prostitution.

1:59:00  The Koran on prostitution

2:00:00  Red-light district

2:01:00  God calling Jews the openly adulterous bride of God

AI Overview                 

In the Hebrew Bible, God frequently uses prostitution and adultery as a metaphor to describe the spiritual unfaithfulness of ancient Israel and Judah. This imagery serves as a way to illustrate the betrayal of the covenant, where the nation "played the whore" by abandoning God to worship idols and pursue foreign alliances.

This symbolic language appears primarily in the writings of the major prophets:

Ezekiel 16 and 23: These chapters contain some of the most striking and graphic imagery in scripture. God compares Jerusalem and Samaria to adulterous sisters who give themselves to foreign idols, "prostituting" themselves for alliances and wealth. Ezekiel uses the metaphor to express divine frustration and the severity of Israel's betrayal.

Hosea 1–3: God commands the prophet Hosea to marry a woman who has engaged in prostitution ("a wife of whoredom") to physically act out the metaphor of God's relationship with Israel. It illustrates how God continually pursues His people with steadfast love, even when they turn away to worship other gods.

Jeremiah 3: The prophet also employs this theme, accusing the people of "prostituting themselves with many lovers" by adopting the pagan religious practices of surrounding nations.

Historically, this prophetic language is not a literal condemnation of the women of Israel as commercial sex workers, but rather a powerful, culturally understood device to describe a spiritual issue. In ancient Israelite theology, the covenant was often compared to a marriage, making the worship of foreign gods a profound form of spiritual adultery or unfaithfulness.

2:01:00  The terms of the transaction for sexual services

2:03:00  Men should only be required to support their legitimate offspring. 

https://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=24&verse=2

2:05:00  Marriage license

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37017533/tom-cruise-splits-ana-de-armas-spark/

2:10:00  For the sake of society, make the choice for women who want to be suppliers of sex to men easy to understand and clear.

2:13:00  What women have to do to keep men wanting to be men and pay for women

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Monday, 20 July 2026

Can male friendship survive if one man loves Taylor Swift and the other loathes her?


The title should be "Who are your friends?" Are Christians now disputing the benefits of having friends?

Do Christians in TLC find friendship with Muslims impossible?

Would Christians become smarter if they stopped saying "like" as a filler word to give them time to think of their next word to complete their sentence?

Is saying "like" a lot a sign of degeneracy?

Should Christian parents who care about maintaining standards make their children say their sentences again without "like" when it adds nothing to the sentence and is just more evidence of degeneracy and ever lowering standards of education and behaviour?

17:00  Talking about not seeming like a loser, would it help if your moral convictions are based on facts and logic spending your moral and spiritual credit on your luxury beliefs you can no longer afford?

20:00  Is feminism interfering with the ability of American men to live in communities because Christianity no longer supports marriage?

24:00  What is "cosmic background religion"?

Are you worthy of anyone's friendship if you have no moral convictions that you would attempt to defend with facts  and logic?

27:00  Sam Tideman is a heretic closer to Islam than Christianity because he rejects the Trinity, as Thomas Jefferson did. 

28:00  Moralistic Therapeutic Deism is not an actual belief system acknowledged by qualified theologians, is it?

28:30  Do Moralistic Therapeutic Deists believe in the afterlife or have a decent knowledge of what constitutes idolatry?

29:00  The Meaning Crisis = The Matriarchy

Do men in TLC dare to discuss the Matriarchy?

Another possible title suggestion "Can men in TLC contemplate being friends with a Muslim without being overcome by nausea and rage?"

37:00   Sounds like Ian has conducted a dissection of God and removed and weighed His internal organs.

57:00  Can male friendships survive Taylor Swift?

1:06:00  There is only one Abrahamic God. It is certainly arguable that Hindus and Buddhists worship the Abrahamic God without realising it since reincarnation has to be administered by a morally perfect being who is omnipotent and omniscient.

1:13:00   Who are our enemies?

1:39:00  So end those friendships with people who cannot take the truth.  Declutter your life of fake people who not only cannot disagree in a civil way, but cannot even analyse what they believe or have a sensible discussion about why they believe in their dumb crap.  

2:12:00  Old friendships are like old wine.
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