THE VOICE OF REASON
Solon, (born c. 630 BCE—died c. 560 BCE), Athenian statesman, known as one of the Seven Wise Men of Greece (the others were Chilon of Sparta, Thales of Miletus, Bias of Priene, Cleobulus of Lindos, Pittacus of Mytilene, and Periander of Corinth). Solon ended exclusive aristocratic control of the government, substituted a system of control by the wealthy, and introduced a new and more humane law code. He was also a noted poet.
51:00 Patriarchy helps eliminate categories of people eg bachelors, women, married fathers with children who are not a credit to them, divorced men, men who are not sex offenders eg sodomites, unmarried fathers.
52:00 Qualifiers
53:00 Privileging married parents
54:00 Secular Koranism
55:00 Dismantling the patriarchy
56:00 Vincent is in a bubble.
57:00 Midterm elections
Vivek Ramaswamy, Dan Bilzerian, Fishback
58:00 Margaret Sanger
59:00 The Pil and low birth rates
1:00:00 Vincent's parents
1:02:00 Marriage is dating.
1:03:00 Religion
Marriage is a child protection scheme.
1:04:00 Norman Vincent Peale
1:05:00 Global empires means global wars.
Bad for business
1:06:00 Islamophobes
1:07:00 America and the rest of the world
Beyondism
1:08:00 Divisions
1:09:00 Sykes-Picot Agreement
Representative democracy should be rejected.
1:11:00 Vincent should help his fellow Americans.
1:12:00 Secular Koranism Beyondist State
1:14:00 Aarvoll
1:15:00 Quarrelling parents
1:16:00 DON joins to discuss slavery.
1:19:00 Broken homes
1:20:00 White people don't have a working class.
Hispanics
1:21:00 The welfare state was a product of abolishing slavery.
1:22:00 Control
1:23:00 Freedom
1:24:00 British working class
1:26:00 The underlying cause of uncontrolled mass immigration
I feel like YouTube is deliberately making us glued to our subscription fee to see who’s going live
12:21 PM
@βρεττς
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I mean, not the god of Ishmael
12:22 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
@βρεττς YouTube is a behavioural addiction. If we are here chitchatting about nothing in particular, we do not understand what the government is up to.
12:22 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
@βρεττς So you think there is more than one Abrahamic God?
12:23 PM
@βρεττς
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Nope but I don’t want to junk up Chris’s comments with us
12:23 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
@βρεττς Chris doesn't mind. There's nothing going on here anyway.
12:23 PM
@βρεττς
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It’s forcing Chris to read through our crap to get something meaningful to bring up
12:24 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
@βρεττς What could be more meaningful than theology to people who believe in God?
12:25 PM
@βρεττς
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Time and place
12:25 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
@βρεττς When would be the time? Where would be the place?
12:25 PM
@βρεττς
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Balance
12:26 PM
@βρεττς
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Ron offshoring the prayer request.
12:26 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
@βρεττς Are you calling me unbalanced? It's just the two of us.
12:27 PM
@βρεττς
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Lean more towards casual talk from time to time in what people are discussing on screen would be balanced
12:27 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
Analysis, diagnosis and prognosis is better than prayer chains.
12:29 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
@βρεττς Soylent Green
12:30 PM
@βρεττς
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That movie definitely had deep connotations
12:34 PM
@βρεττς
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Luxury beliefs was definitely in dinner with Andre
12:38 PM
@βρεττς
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Probably depends on whether he was asked to be taken to dinner or let’s do dinner
12:40 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
Economy beliefs are easy to believe. Luxury beliefs are hard to believe.
12:40 PM
@βρεττς
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They’re sitting at a nice restaurant pontificating about worldly things in a safe country. So I would have to say very Greek.
12:40 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
Beliefs imposed by religion are designed to make the believer feel safe and good.
12:41 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
The basic belief for all societies is marriage and family values if you want to keep your group in existence and apart from others.
12:42 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
All the five world religions are designed to protect its adherents from pessimism and fear of suffering and injustice.
12:43 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
A godless society is a declining society.
12:43 PM
@shoulderserf
Religion is a mode of control to keep people in line to make police work much easier than it would be otherwise. - paraphrase from Lewis’ A Pilgrim’s Regress
12:43 PM
@βρεττς
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It gives me peace
12:44 PM
@βρεττς
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I prefer Pilgrim’s progress
12:44 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
How do you know if your society is a godless society?
12:44 PM
@shoulderserf
Tune in to my Pilgrim’s Regress series to find out 😉
12:47 PM
@βρεττς
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No luxury beliefs are having the luxury to believe nonsense and discuss it completely disconnected from it and from your position
12:48 PM
@βρεττς
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I don’t see that as luxury beliefs at all
12:49 PM
@βρεττς
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Or taught
12:55 PM
@βρεττς
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Exactly. Proving once again, God is the decider.
12:57 PM
@βρεττς
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Or God changes hearts
12:57 PM
@βρεττς
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Pray for that if you’re sincere
12:59 PM
@βρεττς
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In church, Theology is set. In specific churches. So no need to discuss it. In politics, most churches are policy driven not candidate driven.
1:02 PM
@βρεττς
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The point of an open mind is to eventually close it around the truth
1:02 PM
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Otherwise, what’s the point?
1:02 PM
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Open open open
1:02 PM
@βρεττς
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To infinity
1:08 PM
@βρεττς
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Being here to glorify God and know God is the highest. And “obeying “comes from the desire, sincerely out of love. Not a requirement.
1:12 PM
@βρεττς
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Delight in the law, not fear the law
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54:00 CLAIRE KHAW joins to discuss The Wall.
56:00 Luxury beliefs
58:00 My Dinner With Andre
59:00 Andre paid for the meal.
1:03:00 Are all religions luxury beliefs?
1:04:00 Godless life, godless death.
1:07:00 Truth and logic are basic beliefs.
1:08:00 Marriage is an economy belief.
We suffer for our beliefs in a hierarchy of beliefs.
1:10:00 "Trust the science."
Trust in the experts?
1:12:00 Having a belief system
Punishment for dissidents, heretics, subversives etc
1:14:00 Black Box Theory
1:15:00 The Trinity
1:16:00 The catechism
1:19:00 Heresy
1:20:00 "I said it first!"
1:21:00 Churches that don't discuss theology, political parties that don't discuss ideology.
Liberalism
1:22:00 Too much liberty leads to the Law of the Jungle.
Is believing that food comes from the grocery store a luxury belief?
1:23:00 Personality politics
1:24:00 Religion and society
1:26:00 Who we should we trust?
1:27:00 People putting up with bad government according to the US Declaration of Independence
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
"It's not fair."
1:28:00 Religion: beliefs, values and principles
1:29:00 "The Commandments are not the highest point."
1:30:00 "Having the same thoughts of God"
1:31:00 "The highest thing"
Prophets are in direct communication with God.
1:32:00 If you believe in God, why wouldn't you obey His laws?
1:34:00 You judge the success of a group by its religion.
1:35:00 Obedience
1:36:00 Many are called, few are chosen.
1:37:00 Leadership
1:38:00 Accountability
1:40:00 Abdicating monarchs
1:41:00 Law and empire
1:42:00 People who don't even notice when they have been cursed
1:43:00 The European Wars of Religion
Liberalism was a predictable reaction against the oppressive totalitarianism of absolute monarchy.
1:44:00 Inquisition
1:45:00 Trial by ordeal
1:46:00 The First Amendment facilitates rational discourse and prevents people being criminalised for having the wrong opinions.
1:48:00 The Afterlife is a category of theoretical reward and punishment that the living do not see.
1:10:00 Is Mamdani a left-wing Jew masquerading as a Muslim?
1:12:00 Logic chopping and mysticism
1:13:00 Chicago and South Bend
1:14:00 The unacknowledged Islamophobia of the coastal elites is more insidious than the Islamopobia of ignorant rednecks which would be more easily corrected.
Have you noticed that religious groups are the most powerful groups of all? And have you also noticed that the American Republic is proto-Muslim?
@ObjectiveEthics
Comparing religious empires to non-religious empires is a false equivalence fallacy often referred to as 'bothsideism'. There are no known empires that were historically non-religious and it is assumed that well over 90% of all people are religious. While that number is in steep decline, the global estimates are still around 92% religious vs 8% non-religious.
As for your other question about proto-muslim, I don't even know what that is supposed to be. Are you referring to Christianity or Rahbbinic Judaism, or something else entirely?
@OfficialSecularKoranism
If you believe in the Abrahamic God as a gentile while rejecting the Trinity, you are closer to being Muslim than being a Jew or Christian. Trinitarian Christians would burn Unitarian Christians at the stake eg Michael Servetus.
@ObjectiveEthics
Yes the Catholic inquisitions were vile. But that doesn't answer my question about your comment. What is "Proto-muslim" in your opinion?
@OfficialSecularKoranism
I thought I had answered your question with " If you believe in the Abrahamic God as a gentile while rejecting the Trinity, you are closer to being Muslim than being a Jew or Christian." The Founding Fathers rejected the Trinity while still believing in God. For this reason I call them proto-Muslim.
@ObjectiveEthics
Oh my apologies sister. I did not realize that was in direct response to my question. Wouldn't that be more accurately stated as simply Unitarian Christianity or perhaps Arianism?
@OfficialSecularKoranism
Unitarian Christianity is closest to Islam because Unitarian Christians are supposed to believe that Jesus was mortal, and this is what Muslims also believe. In fact, Jews and Muslims believe that all the prophets of God were mortal though Jews reject the prophethood of Jesus presumably because it could be argued that he tricked gentiles into practising idolatry on a global scale.
As for Arianism, I am sure Unitarian Christians will be falling over each other to tell you that Unitarian Christianity is nothing like Arianism which is belief that Jesus was in some way divine, but not of co-equal status with God.
May I thank you for your persistent questioning. I fear most people don't care if they don't understand what I am saying and don't care to enquire further. These people are in fact the greatest obstacle to understanding and engagement!
@ObjectiveEthics
So why are you referring to Gentiles who believe in the Abrahamic God as proto-muslim instead of just calling them Unitarians? It seems like you might be over complicating your position.
@OfficialSecularKoranism
Because getting Americans to accept that the Founding Fathers were proto-Muslim would make them more receptive to Secular Koranism with American Characteristics.
22:00 Arian v Aryan
23:00 Christianity is only a cultural affiliation, like their football club. Of course they don't believe God exists to punish anyone for anything, and they certainly don't believe Jesus is God but, boy, do they love the idea of being crusading knights slaying Jews and Muslims in the Levant. Since they never believed God exists to punish them for anything, it is impossible to get them to take seriously the idea that idolatry is a mortal sin. It is impossible to wake a man who is only pretending to be asleep.
24:00 Claiming to be Christian gives Post-Christian/Post-Liberal Islamophobes an excuse to reject Islam/sharia.
26:00 The Trinity and being based
27:00 Fake Christians
Christianity was used to defend the divine right of kings.
28:00 Some White Nationalists convert to Islam when they realise that there are no single women of child-bearing age for them to marry in their Orthodox or Catholic Church that they have joined. When they realise that if they want to find women who share their values of social conservatism ie marriage and family values, they have to find them in mosques after converting to Islam.
However, Muslim men are also being divorced right, left and centre by Muslim women in the West using the rules of no fault divorce. When it is finally acknowledged that Western husbands are in fear of being divorced by their feminist wives for no reason at all, they might see the point of sharia abolishing no fault divorce by requiring engaged couples to agree a marriage contract and register their marriage contract with the Registry of Marriages before legally recognising their marriage.
30:00 Western men are without conviction because they have no official belief system.
31:00 Errol Flynn
33:00 ROB COBB joins.
36:00 Arabic
Friday and Sunday Schools
39:00 Arranged marriage of parents
41:00 Pakistanis and Jordanians
42:00 Southern Italy, Sicily and Islam
45:00 Fishtank
55:00 Bondi Beach Muslim hero not considered a hero by White Australians.
58:00 Rob and his Iranian from Isfahan
1:00:00 ISIS are Western mercenaries.
1:02:00 Romantic advice
I advise Rob to hold back on his pagan ideas with this Muslim woman.
1:05:00 Muslim on Fishtank 24/7 for three weeks has been good PR for Muslims, apparently.
Islamophobes cannot stand any Muslim who looks or seems Muslim.
1:06:00 I have the mindset of an investigative journalist.
1:07:00 Arabic speakers showing off their Arabic by quoting the Koran in Arabic to non-Arabic speakers who already hate them are the dumbest of the dumbos.
1:08:00 Ahmadis are government-approved Muslims.
1:09:00 ISIS are Western mercenaries.
1:10:00 Jews are serving American imperial interests and getting themselves killed.
1:11:00 Tucker Carlson and Academic Agent
1:12:00 Saying Israel too often, as Tucker did, will get you accused of being an antisemite.
1:13:00 Zionism
1:14:00 CIA is divided into pro-Zionist CIA and anti-Zionist CIA.
1:18:00 The Abrahamic God and the Ninevites
Confession is therapeutic.
1:20:00 Humility is virtue.
Lies
1:21:00 Luxury beliefs
1:22:00 Communists
Libertarianism
Sexual liberation
1:23:00 Absolute monarchies in Christendom
Liberalism
1:24:00 Transition phase
LGBT
1:25:00 Abortion
Gender relations
1:26:00 Unmarried mothers being immoral and stupid women would not care about the state turning their illegitimate offspring into members of the opposite sex after sterilising them.
1:27:00 Swinging 60s and pandering to the feminine vices of immoral women
1:28:00 Sexual liberation became the new normal.
1:29:00 Rainbow zebra crossings
AI Overview
Row over Sydney's gay street crossing | Australia news | The Rainbow crossings in Australia, designed to celebrate the LGBTQIA+ community, have historically sparked debate over public safety versus artistic expression. Famous examples include a 2013 Sydney crossing removed due to safety hazards, and newer, safer installations in pedestrians-only zones, such as the March 2026 installation in Wollongong.
Key Examples and History:
Wollongong (2026): A new rainbow crossing was installed in March 2026 on a pedestrianized link between parking bays on Marine Drive, replacing an earlier, higher-risk location, notes the Wollongong City Council.
Sydney (2013): The first major Australian rainbow crossing was created on Oxford St, Darlinghurst, for the 35th Mardi Gras but was removed after a month due to safety concerns regarding pedestrians taking photos, reports Wikipedia and The Guardian.
Protests: Following the 2013 removal, residents used chalk to create their own DIY crossings in protest.
These crossings are often used to celebrate inclusivity and acknowledge the LGBTQIA+ community.
Transition phase between patriarchy to matriarchy
1:32:00 Matriarchy + Environmentalism = Death Cult
1:33:00 Ageing and shrinking society
1:34:00 The Roman Empire became a victim of its own success.
