American Christianity is merely cultural whose churches are social clubs with no political power

 

Original Sin is about frightening Christian parents into getting their infants baptised.

1:00  Infant baptism is the priest's foot in your door in the selling of the state religion of Christianity.

2:00  Restorationism

The Democratisation of American Christianity

The First and Second Great Awakening

3:00  American Christianity is  anticlerical and anti-intellectual.

Hierarchy

4:00  Second Great Awakening 1830-1880

5:00  Charles Finney

6:00  John Humphrey Noyes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Humphrey_Noyes

12:00  Age of consent

13:00  Sex cult

16:00  Charismatic leaders

17:00  Catholic Church and accountability

18:00  Crystal balls and sorcery

The age of consent in Delaware in 1871 was lowered from 10 to 7.

19:00  Sola scriptura

20:00  Catholic heretics

22:00  Heretic burning

23:00  Celibate priests and pederasty

24:00  Catholic catamites

26:00  Sexual offences

27:00  By their fruits shall you know them. 

28:00  The improved morals of the Catholic Church

29:00  Freedom of belief

30:00  Eternal and universal laws

31:00  Progressive

32:00  The Catholic Church changed slowly.

33:00  Popes

35:00  SSPX

38:00  An American Pope

39:00  Weaponising Christianity

41:00  Strict or liberal church

42:00  Half-Way Covenant

43:00  Puritans were non-conformist Congregationalists who were Calvinists who were not Presbyterians.

44:00  Ecclesiastical authority

Yale and Harvard

45:00  Witch trials

New Lights

47:00  Abuse of power

48:00  Lord Protector

49:00  The trial of Charles I

50:00  Long sermons instead of the Book of Common Prayer during the Interregnum

52:00  Catholicism is unAmerican. 

53:00  Accountability of Trump

54:00  The religion of mum and dad

55:00  How to choose the best religion?

57:00  Sufi and Zen

Secular Koranism to the rescue of Unitarian Christians!

The Founding Fathers who were proto-Muslim Noahides were Unitarian Christians considered to be heretical Christians by Trinitarian Christians. 

1:00  There is only one Abrahamic God - the one who forbade idolatry.

2:00  The Trinity is an article of faith for Trinitarians. 

3:00  Non-Trinitarian Christians

4:00  Islamophobia is linked to xenophobia making the religion of Muslims an additional reason to hate these immigrants. 

5:00  The patriarchy of Islam is antithetical to the matriarchy.

6:00  Cultural, political, historical, imperial and theological reasons for Christians to hate Muslims

7:00  No fault divorce

8:00  Secular Koranism

9:00  Allah supports the First Amendment with quran.com/2/256 

10:00  Sunnis think there were four rightly-guided Caliphs while Shias only recognise one: Ali.

13:00  Muslim unity under Secular Koranism

15:00  Muslims are kinder towards Mary and Jesus than Jews.

16:00  Culture and race

17:00  The problem with coming out as a Unitarian Christian. 

18:00  Trinitarians regard Unitarians as heretics.

19:00  Sam Tideman

20:00  Confused Christians

21:00  Unitarianism in America

22:00  Our psyche is divided into three: id, ego and superego, the short term, the medium term or the long term.

25:00  Islam as a solution

26:00  Neurosis and psychosis

27:00  Redemption

28:00  Who won the Wars of the Reformation?

Christendom ended in 1918.

29:00  The cure exists before the disease

30:00  Thomas Jefferson

The role of the American Republic in promoting global Secular Koranism

31:00  Secular Koranism adopts a literal but permissive interpretation.

32:00  The America Republic could be the Caliphate if it redeems itself.

33:00  Restoring the First Amendment rights of American husbands with a class action to abolish no fault divorce

35:00  Secular Koranism to the rescue of Unitarian Christians!

What I said to @HelpfulAhmadi when Iranian missiles were flying over Jordan

 

2:00  Disappointed with Trump

3:00  US vassal states in NATO

George Washington's farewell speech ignored

4:00  Jews

5:00  Compulsory Zionism

Punch and Judy Show/kayfabe

6:00  Humanity should be divided between righteous and unrighteous, societies into patriarchy and matriarchy.

7:00  Israel is an American colony.

8:00  Hypocrites calling themselves Jews, Christians and Muslims.

9:00  A list of verses containing the Commandments of Allah

10:00  Dividing the Koran into:

1. stories
2. threats from God
3. promises from God
4. commandments
5. prohibitions

11:00  quran.com/24/2

12:00  Secular Koranism is for non-Muslim Westerners

13:00  Licensed brothels in red-light districts under Secular Koranism

https://thebattlefieldoflove.blogspot.com/2010/06/verse-in-koran-implicitly-condones.html

God forbade neither prostitution nor slavery. 

14:00  In a properly ordered patriarchy, there would be only two kinds of women supplying sex to heterosexual men: wives and prostitutes. Currently, the biggest supplier of sex are never married mothers/fornicatresses. 

15:00  Fornicatresses are queering the market for sex.

16:00  Sykes-Picot Agreement 1916

18:00  Republic > monarchy

19:00  A monarch is a quasi idol. 

20:00  Sykes-Picot Agreement 

Lawrence of Arabia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clouds_Hill

AI Overview

T.E. Lawrence (“Lawrence of Arabia”) felt deeply disillusioned by the 1916 Sykes-Picot Agreement, a secret pact between Britain and France that betrayed promises of Arab independence he had made to his allies. The agreement partitioned Ottoman-controlled Middle East into French- and British-spheres, contradicting Arab hopes for a unified state, forcing Lawrence to fight for their cause at the 1919 Paris Peace Conference. 

Key Details on Lawrence and the Sykes-Picot Agreement:

The Conflict: While leading the Arab Revolt (1916–1918), Lawrence promised Faisal I and Arab leaders that they would gain independence after the war. Simultaneously, British diplomat Mark Sykes and French diplomat François Georges-Picot signed a secret agreement to divide the region, with France taking Syria/Lebanon and Britain taking Iraq/Jordan/Palestine.

Discovery and Reaction: Lawrence likely learned details of the agreement between May and October 1916, or upon its public release by the Bolsheviks in 1917, which he found "disgusting". He realized his work was being used to support colonial expansion rather than Arab sovereignty.

Post-War Actions: Despite the betrayal, Lawrence pushed for the fulfillment of Arab promises at the 1919 Paris Peace Conference, advocating for Prince Faisal.

Long-term Impact: The agreement, which drew arbitrary borders across the Middle East, is often cited as a root cause of instability and conflict in the region for the past century. 

24:00  An absolute monarch is above the law.

26:00  Sykes-Picot Agreement 1916

BRAVE AI

Sykes–Picot Agreement was a secret 1916 treaty between the United Kingdom and France, with assent from Russia and Italy, to define their spheres of influence and control in the event of the Ottoman Empire’s defeat in World War I. The agreement laid the groundwork for the post-war partition of the Middle East, dividing Ottoman territories into British and French zones of control, while also addressing Russian and Italian interests.  It was negotiated by British diplomat Mark Sykes and French diplomat François Georges-Picot, with formal ratification occurring on 9–16 May 1916.  The agreement directly influenced the creation of modern states in the region and is widely viewed as a foundational moment in the geopolitical shaping of the Middle East. 

Sykes–Picot Agreement – Quick facts:

Signed: 3 January 1916 (initialled), formally ratified 9–16 May 1916

Parties: United Kingdom, France, Russia (initially), Italy (later)  

Key negotiators: Mark Sykes (UK), François Georges-Picot (France) 

Territorial division:

British control: Southern Israel, Palestine, Jordan, southern Iraq, and access to Mediterranean ports (Haifa, Acre) 

French control: Southeastern Turkey, Kurdistan Region, Syria, and Lebanon 

International administration: Palestine (to be decided post-consultation) 

Russian interests: Western Armenia, Constantinople, and the Turkish Straits (under the Constantinople Agreement and Sazonov–Paléologue Agreement)  

The agreement was initially kept secret from the Arab populations it affected, despite prior British promises of Arab independence. It was later exposed by the Russian Bolshevik government in November 1917, contributing to widespread Arab distrust.  Though not directly implemented in full, the Sykes–Picot framework heavily influenced the 1920 San Remo Conference and the subsequent League of Nations mandates, shaping the modern borders of the Middle East.

27:00  British schoolchildren had to learn the kings and queens of England when they took monarchy seriously. 

28:00  Founding Fathers

Stockholm Syndrome

https://www.simplypsychology.org/harlow-monkey.html 

29:00  The Founding Fathers separated the church from their state.

30:00  https://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=2&verse=266

35:00  Every country adopting Secular Koranism would interpret the Koran in their own way.

37:00  Trust in a meritocracy

38:00  Exercising moral reasoning to choose the best religion available

39:00  Winning the argument against Christians

41:00  Rabbis ranking the four gentiles religion according to their conformity with the Noahide laws

42:00  Why Jews are so confused and corrupt

43:00  36 capital offences of Judaism

Ir nidachat - being guilty of the capital offence of being a citizen of a city that has gone astray

48:00  Europeans must rid themselves of the cancer of monarchy and become constitutional republics.

49:00  Israel is an American colony.

50:00  What are Americans to do?

51:00  Will Christians redeem themselves  with Secular Koranism?

Absolute monarchy is absolute corruption. 

Neal Daedalus deconstructs his deconstruction

 

Define deconstruction.

Will you "deconstruct" the Trinity?

3:00  Jews, Christians and Muslims had terrible kings.

4:00  Never mind the narratives. People just need to concentrate on whether the Trinity is idolatry and what Christians are going to do about it if they do decide that the Trinity is idolatry which is a mortal sin forbidden by the Abrahamic God in His Commandments.

6:00  The New Testament has no unity of authorship and was not written by Jesus, let alone God. In fact, the Trinity - which is totemic of Christianity - is not even mentioned in it.

7:00  You talk about "the humility of God" because you assume that He is Jesus. Jews and Muslims think worshiping God as Jesus is idolatry. 

10:00  You obviously still don't get it that Job's faith in God was being tested and that he passed the test because he resisted his wife's exhortation to curse God and die. His reward was to be restored and get his own book in the Old Testament. 

12:00 Pharaoh and the Egyptians were idolaters. Americans are mostly pagans, guilty of idolatry if they are Trinitarians.  

14:00  You don't know that God created evil or why?

15:00  You don't know that God forbade suicide?

https://quran.com/4/29

26:00  Justice is what is felt by the majority of the group to be fair enough. 

43:00  If we take responsibility and blame ourselves, we forgive ourselves fairly quickly. 

46:00  Anthropomorphism is idolatry.

49:00  Arguing about the different narratives is a waste of time and energy when you could be showing some interest in God's will by taking an interest in His laws. 

55:00  The West was also built on Catholicism.

56:00  We are but lower animals without moral reasoning. 

Why Claire Khaw is the world's most knowledgeable theologian

Five world religions divided into Abrahamic and non-Abrahamic religions. 

The focus should be on the Abrahamic religions because as organised religions, they are better at organised violence and therefore at imperial acquisition. 

2:00  Western history is a rejection of the institution of absolute monarchy and the failure of Christianity for the last 500 years. 

The only religion that would support constitutional republics is Islam - a religion whose holy book supports the First Amendment with quran.com/2/256

A religion that has failed absolute monarchs would all the more fail the commoner.  

3:00  God is not a monarchist.  

4:00  Jews, Christians and Muslims had terrible absolute monarchs. 

5:00  The fault of the Anglo-Saxons

Liberalism was  an attempt by Europeans to free themselves of the oppression and tyranny of absolute monarchs beginning with the English people during the English Civil War, continuing with the English people in America, later spreading to France and Russia in the form of the French and Russian Revolutions. 

6:00  Subjects unwilling to follow the religion of their king would be burned at the stake meaning that the no one had any rights at all and the king in fact owned their minds and mouths. When the Foundign Fathers realised they would get more rights under God than under their tyrant monarch such as the First Amendment supported by quran.com/.2/256, they separated the church from their state. 

7:00  Even Christians have to pay lip service to obeying God's prohibition against idolatry if they want to claim that they worship the Abrahamic God. They would want to worship the Abrahamic God because He is the most powerful being conceivable. 

8:00  Jews living in any nominally Christian country are guilty of the capital offence of ir nidachat. If they are going to take the whole thing seriously, they will have to assume that if they died the citizens of any nominally Christian country ie a city that has given itself to idolatry unpunished for that offence, they will face that death penalty and perhaps other too since there are 36 capital offences in Judaism and they may be guilty of more than one capital offence. It is very easy to clock up a death penalty or two or three or four under Judaism and be expected to suffer death by beheading, burning, stoning and strangulation in the afterlife. Gentiles who believe in the Abrahamic God should on no account envy Jews for their supposedly elevated status of being God's Chosen People. Who would want to be a member of a people whom God always chooses to  make an example of?  God made Jews His Chosen People so that gentiles can observe  Jews and avoid their terrible mistakes, but gentiles are stupid too and do not use their powers of moral reasoning and free will which God supposedly conferred on them. This is of course very offensive to God. We  all  know how we would feel if we gave something valuable and special to someone and they did not even bother to unwrap the present, and left it lying in their hallway unopened for centuries if not millennia like an unwanted parcel. 

Fortunately, God in His mercy has sent a certain individual who has a birthday on Tisha B'Av to explain to Jews and gentiles what they are missing: true belief in God and therefore the fear of God for what they He might do to them for their disobedience spanning centuries if not millennia. 

The trouble with hypocrites claiming to believe in God whether Jew or gentile is that it is impossible to make them entertain the idea of divine punishment if they do not believe God exists to punish them for anything. As I keep saying, it is impossible to wake someone who is only pretending to be asleep. Hypocrites pretend to be asleep in order to ignore their moral imperative beeping like smoke alarm.  

The Trinity is regarded as idolatry by Jews and Muslims. 

9:00  Muslims are mostly ignorant and forgetful of quran.com/18/4

10:00  WW3  is being sold as a religious war to Westerners. 

11:00  Americans want to commit suicide by cop. 

12:00  Americans have driven themselves mad because of the sheer number of lies they tell and have to believe. 

Americans are basically like children who realise that their parents never intended to have them, have always hated them and go to their school to tell the other kids to bully them and love the neighbours' kids more.  

13:00  Mental illness is composed of the cognitive dissonance caused by the lies our ruling classes expect us to believe in. 

14:00  The opportunity cost being paid by idolaters is immense when you think of the number of historical tragedies that could have been avoided if only Christians were Muslims obeying the laws of God. 

It is necessary to conceive of God correctly to correctly worship Him and have your prayers answered. 

15:00  Eternal bliss is better than eternal torment. 

16:00  It would be logical to worship the most powerful being conceivable if you are minded to worship a deity. 

17:00  Organised religions are better at better at group solidarity and imperialism. 

18:00  Truth and logic are survival strategies. 

19:00  Comparative religion

Rabbis must rank the four gentile religions according to their conformity with the Noahide laws to be true to their purpose of being God's Chosen People.

20:00  Christians are clearly being intentionally idolatrous, recklessly idolatrous or negligently idolatrous if they continue to insist on the divinity of Jesus like the pagans they are. 

21:00  The Koran is the best available guide to humanity. 

22:00  Hatred is the identity of antisemites and Islamophobes. 

23:00  Ecclesiastical law privileges the priesthood. 

24:00  Equality before the law is crucial for group cohesion. 

25:00  The most important part of our identity is defined by our religion since religious groups are the  most powerful groups in the world being larger in number than most countries and also so ancient that they outlive empires. It is through choosing the best  religion for ourselves and our group that we exercise our free will, assert our moral agency and exercise our moral reasoning.  

26:00  The best religion must be the religion worshiping the most powerful being conceivable with the rules of widest application giving its members the most rights.. 

27:00  Christians trying to pull rank over each other will be entertaining to be hold.

The most powerful church in the world is the Church of England. 

28:00  We must measure the success of religion with empire. 

29:00  There are only two Catholic monarchs ie the Spanish and Belgian monarchy.

30:00  American  Christianity is American Paganism. 

31:00  The Founding Fathers separated the church from their state. 

Americans should be talking more politics online and irl.

32:00  Is there a White House Virus that controls the President's brain?

33:00  George Washington's farewell speech

35:00  Restorationism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restorationism

36:00  Old and New Christianity

https://radicalisedrabbi.blogspot.com/2026/03/talking-to-josh-gonzalez-about-penal.html

38:00  Blame Americans, not Jews.

Israel and America are one. 

39:00  What are you gonna do about your unnamed belief system, corrupt government and compromised political system, American? 

40:00  Washington warned Americans against political parties.

41:00  quran.com/6/159

43:00  The great advantage of being a one-party state is the saving of time. 

45:00  You cannot be both a Christian and liberal. 

46:00  Christianity has utterly failed to defend the divine right of kings. 

47:00  Conversion to Christianity by yellow and brown people was just social and political opportunism.  

48:00  Seventh Day Adventist Desmond Ford

49:00  The attempt to believe in Christianity has caused the disintegration of the Western mind.

Matilda (1907) by Hilaire Belloc

Matilda told such Dreadful Lies,

It made one Gasp and Stretch one's Eyes;

Her Aunt, who, from her Earliest Youth,

Had kept a Strict Regard for Truth,

Attempted to Believe Matilda:

The effort very nearly killed her,

And would have done so, had not She

Discovered this Infirmity.

For once, towards the Close of Day,

Matilda, growing tired of play,

And finding she was left alone,

Went tiptoe to the Telephone

And summoned the Immediate Aid

Of London's Noble Fire-Brigade.

Within an hour the Gallant Band

Were pouring in on every hand,

From Putney, Hackney Downs, and Bow

With Courage high and Hearts a-glow

They galloped, roaring through the Town

'Matilda's House is Burning Down!'

Inspired by British Cheers and Loud

Proceeding from the Frenzied Crowd,

They ran their ladders through a score

Of windows on the Ball Room Floor;

And took Peculiar Pains to Souse

The Pictures up and down the House,

Until Matilda's Aunt succeeded

In showing them they were not needed;

And even then she had to pay

To get the Men to go away!

It happened that a few Weeks later

Her Aunt was off to the Theatre

To see that Interesting Play

The Second Mrs Tanqueray.

She had refused to take her Niece

To hear this Entertaining Piece:

A Deprivation Just and Wise

To Punish her for Telling Lies.

That Night a Fire did break out-

You should have heard Matilda Shout!

You should have heard her Scream and Bawl,

And throw the window up and call

To People passing in the Street-

(The rapidly increasing Heat

Encouraging her to obtain

Their confidence)-but all in vain!

For every time She shouted 'Fire!'

They only answered 'Little Liar'!

And therefore when her Aunt returned,

Matilda, and the House, were Burned.

50:00  We deserve the government we get. 

51:00  I am the world's most knowledgeable theologian because no one can propose a better guide to humanity than the Koran.

Talking to Josh Gonzalez about Penal Substitutionary Atonement

 

Penal Substitutionary Atonment =  human sacrifice/only son sacrifice

1:00  Incorrect Trinitarian understanding

3:00  Anselm

Nicene Creed

4:00  "our sake", not a debt

Origen

Montanism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montanism

6:00  Luther and Calvin on PSA

7:00  PSA

Pauline Epistles

8:00  "Harrowing of hell" ie Jesus went to hell

AI Overview

The Harrowing of Hell, or Christ's descent into the realm of the dead to free righteous souls, is primarily based on 1 Peter 3:18–20, which describes Jesus being "made alive in the spirit" and proclaiming to "spirits in prison". Other key, supporting, or interpreted verses include: 

Ephesians 4:9: Suggests a descent into the "lower parts of the earth".

Acts 2:24–31: Quotes Psalm 16:10, stating Christ was not abandoned to Hades.

1 Peter 4:6: Mentions the gospel was preached to those now dead.

Matthew 12:40: References the "heart of the earth" for three days.

Revelation 1:17–18: Mentions Jesus holds the "keys of Death and Hades". 

These passages are foundational to the belief that Jesus descended to the underworld between his crucifixion and resurrection. 

9:00  Josh is Catholic.

10:00  Latin West and the Orthodox East

11:00  American Christianity is dominated  by Evangelicals. 

Charism = grace

12:00  Predestination

The Fall of Man

14:00  Filioque

"Orthodox Catholic"

15:00  The Great Schism

16:00  Modernism accepted at Vatican II

Ransom

17:00  The Great Schism

19:00  Separatism

https://www.britannica.com/event/East-West-Schism-1054

22:00  Trinity

23:00  High church and low church

Soteriology, Christology and Trinitarian theology

24:00  "Eternally begetting the son"

25:00  Temporal order

26:00  God is sending forth His spirit.

27:00  Ontology and economia

28:00  "a divine  human person"

Jesus was sinless.

29:00  "a low view of creative matter"

30:00  God is transcendent.

God condescends to angels and humanity.

33:00   Inter-Trinitarian life

Ontological and economic claim

34:00  The Holy Spirit

36:00  Economia

37:00  Filioque and the monarchical Trinity

39:00  Multiplicity v Unitarian

God's wisdom

42:00  Jews, Muslims and Trinity

43:00  Attributes of God

45:00  Josh is a Catholic convert.

46:00  Josh's parents were Evangelical Christians.

47:00  Nestorianism

48:00  The nature of Jesus

49:00  Theosis is "participating in God's divinity".

50:00  Adoptionism and Nestorianism are first cousins. 

51:00  Tritheism and Quadtheism

52:00  Arian

53:00  Ephesus and Chalcedon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Chalcedon

55:00  The Inter-Trinitarian Life

56:00  The more aesthetic Catholic Church

57:00  Christianity is not "a religion of the book". 

58:00  The role of scripture is downgraded.

1:01:00  Judaism and Islam are religions of the book, but  not Christians. 

1:02:00  Protestants are pseudo-Christians. 

1:03:00  Evangelicalism is a multi-level marketing operation. 

1:04:00  Pentecostalism

1:05:000  Burning bosom Mormonism

1:07:00   Lutheranism and Presbyterianism have lesbian priests. But so does Reform Judaism!

1:08:00   Josh's  parents were glad Josh returned to church even if it was not theirs.

1:09:00  "We don't even believe in the same Jesus Christ."

1:10:00  Reinventing their theology

1:11:00  Clarifying theology

Mormonism

1:12:00  Sociological phenomenon

Polygamy

1:13:00  Mitt Romney was  born in New Mexico.

1:14:00  Mormonism are supposed to be in constant receipt of new revelation. 

1:14:00  Scientology and Mormonism are white American religions. 

1:16:00  Jehovah's Witnesses using Christianity for their pacifism

I fail to explain the difference between the ideal and the minimum moral standard

11:36 AM

@anselman3156

#2

​lol No I've not done a rando, but shared a lot in comments and chat. I am Anglo-Catholic (emphasis on Catholic-a funny creature!)

11:38 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

#3

​It’s a challenge to stay slim at our age, that’s for sure.

11:38 AM

@anselman3156

​#2

​Nice. I am from MacGregor ancestry

11:39 AM

@Eolson-helper

#1

​Do you want to do a rando? I would like one with you if you’re interested.

11:39 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​When I think of Scotland, I think of the Highland Clearances demonstrating conclusively that race and Christianity cannot be your religion.

11:39 AM

@anselman3156

#2

​will to pursue the goal despite little failures

11:41 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

​​@anselman3156 I suppose you hold on to your Anglo-Catholic identity because it is the religion of your ancestors whom you can trace back to before the English Reformation.

11:41 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

#3

​Edinburgh, Stirling, Glencoe, Inverness, pitlochry, St. Andrews.

11:42 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​Christianity has utterly traumatised the European but Americans don't understand this because they haven't been made to learn European history.

11:42 AM

@anselman3156

​​The English Reformation was intended to be Catholic, but a bit botched by some overly rebellious Protestant tendencies. Terrible iconoclasm but good results too-English Bible n liturgy

11:43 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​The problem with Westerners is that they don't learn church history essential to understanding the disintegration of the Western mind.

11:44 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@anselman3156 What you just said makes no sense at all.

11:44 AM

@anselman3156

​​God wills to unremittingly pursue good-brings good ends out of human failures and botching!

11:44 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​Lots of brutality, wherever/whatever history you study.

11:44 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@anselman3156 The Abrahamic God you claim to worship forbade idolatry and blasphemy in His Commandments.

11:44 AM

@anselman3156

​​You don't understand the history Secular You don't understand Christianity

11:45 AM

@anselman3156

​​Tis cannot be properly discussed in a chat Secular. Quit the bigoted ignorant attacks

11:45 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@stefaniecristos8514 No other people were forced-fed the Trinity since the 4th century. If Jesus is not God, then there are certain implications for the afterlife of Christian ancestors.

11:46 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@anselman3156 What about the English Reformation don't I understand? It was inevitable.

11:47 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​I am not worried about these things, Claire. I believe all were created by and for God, and shall be saved, if they wish to be.

11:47 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@anselman3156 Did I say anything untrue or illogical? Anglo-Catholics are just a remnant tolerated by the government because they are so quaint and ancient.

11:48 AM

@anselman3156

​​God was involved in the English Reformation and brought good out of it but there was also human error that was eventually corrected

11:48 AM

@anselman3156

​​You are silly in your bigotry Secular

11:48 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@stefaniecristos8514 God if He exists values obedience and those who will be saved are those who obey His laws.

11:49 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@anselman3156 What have I said that is untrue or illogical?

11:49 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@anselman3156 What human error are you referring to?

11:49 AM

@chrishoward8473

​​@OfficialSecularKoranism No no so much no.

11:49 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​God of justice only, Claire? No room for mercy?

11:50 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@stefaniecristos8514 Most people do not even understand the nature of the divine bargain offered to Man from God.

11:50 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@stefaniecristos8514 Justice is mercy where appropriate.

11:51 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@chrishoward8473 I don't know what you are saying no to.

11:51 AM

@anselman3156

​​I only have a dumb phone for calls and texts No "smart"

11:51 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@ArtisanArtifacts Are you Muslim?

11:51 AM

@ethan.caughey

​​AA, a new pseudonym eh? I miss the robber baron days.

11:52 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​Artisan, what is your background? Where do you live and why are you so obsessed about colonialism?

11:52 AM

@anselman3156

​​Bishop Robber Barron? ;)

11:52 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@ArtisanArtifacts Christianity and Liberalism reminds me of the white man giving blankets infected by smallpox to the Native American.

11:53 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​AA, what do you make of the native people who claim Christ visited their civilizations long before the White Man came?

11:54 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​I can't bear to see the stupid face of Andrew Ternet. While Europeans have the excuse of being force-fed Christianity since the 4th century, he as a Chinese man has no such excuse.

11:54 AM

@anselman3156

​​What gets into the minds of people who want o spend their time coming to Christians to shout abuse at them?

11:55 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​I’m just trying to live well within the constraints of my agency

11:55 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@anselman3156 I am just obeying 18:4 of the Koran for hypocrites calling themselves Muslims still too afraid of their Christian overlords to obey it.

11:56 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@stefaniecristos8514 All of us have moral agency and free will. Some of us will never think of using it though!

11:56 AM

@anselman3156

​​and distracting from a good amicable conversation

11:57 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@anselman3156 You can listen to the root beer conversation and stop interacting with me then.

11:57 AM

@anselman3156

​​St Francis

11:58 AM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak. We know the good but choose the evil.

11:59 AM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​Some days it is nice to just chat about small daily things.

12:00 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​The Seven Deadly Sins are actually necessary for human survival. When does a good appetite become gluttony? When does leisure become sloth? Religion regulates this.

12:02 PM

@anselman3156

​​If I couldve mastered guitar, I'd have liked to do street busking!

12:03 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​Those who disdain to be led by the best available guide to humanity are destined to be oppressed by their corrupt and incompetent ruling classes.

12:03 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​I might take AA more seriously if he/she revealed more about himself. As it is, I just see a troll who does not use their real name, makes everything about colonialism and then deletes their comments

12:03 PM

@ethan.caughey

​​Alright Claire, who is the best available guide?

12:04 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@stefaniecristos8514 I think he is @brentbowling blocked by PVK using another account.

12:04 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​Yet I know there is a human in there somewhere.

12:04 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@ethan.caughey There are only two divine revelations. Reasonable people would choose the one that does not have 36 capital offences and which supports the First Amendment.

12:05 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​I know, Claire, but still that doesn’t tell us anything about the person.

12:05 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@stefaniecristos8514 A traumataised academic on the spectrum.

12:06 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​😊. Yes. Clearly.

12:06 PM

@anselman3156

​​"My wife went to the Caribbean" "Jamaica?" " No she went of her own accord!"

12:06 PM

@ethan.caughey

​​What are the two divine revelations?

12:06 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@stefaniecristos8514 He keeps calling PVK racist, which I think is unfair.

12:06 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​I am bracing for the day Claire calls out my B.S. it will be cutting but spot on….

12:07 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@ethan.caughey The Torah and the Koran are believed to be the directly revealed Word of God.

12:07 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​I agree, Claire, a lot of what he says is just poor faith criticism.

12:07 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@stefaniecristos8514 But I like you and think you are nice and normal!

12:07 PM

@anselman3156

​​"Who was that lady I saw you with last night?" "That was no lady, that was my wife"

12:08 PM

@ethan.caughey

​​I’m all in on Torah. Look how much we agree on.

12:08 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​That made my day, Claire. Thank you. ❤

12:09 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@stefaniecristos8514 Honest and reasonable people are like gold dust.

12:09 PM

@teestrypzSOG

​​TLC community is not alt-right?

12:09 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​Olson, I sometimes worry about that a little bit too, I must confess. Present company excluded.

12:10 PM

@OfficialSecularKoranism

#2

​@ethan.caughey Will you ever read the Koran?

12:10 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#1

​Tayo, do you think TLC is alt-right, or alt-right adjacent?

12:10 PM

@ethan.caughey

​​I studied Islam in college twice. (But I only know a little.)

12:10 PM

@teestrypzSOG

#1

​To rule or not to rule is not the question?

12:10 PM

@anselman3156

​​Moral law has to be internalized, and the Spirit of Christ helps us with that.

12:11 PM

@teestrypzSOG

#1

​I think TLC is definitely alt-right adjacent, but that could just be cuz I’m a woke libtard

12:11 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​St. Paul tells us it (moral law) is written on our ❤

12:11 PM

@anselman3156

​​Jesus pointed to the heart, and transforms it in those who believe on him

12:12 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​What do you mean, merger code?

12:13 PM

@ethan.caughey

​​Anything in the middle is alt-right adjacent, woke adjacent, liberal adjacent, conservative adjacent, etc. There’s always a neighbor.

12:13 PM

@anselman3156

​​First Epistle of St John. Christians have forgiveness for the past and ability to keep free from sin by abiding in Christ

12:14 PM

@anselman3156

​​If you LOVE me, keep te commandments, says the Saviour. Abide in me.

12:14 PM

@stefaniecristos8514

#2

​AA, one person’s 🐶😗 is another’s delusional paranoia.

12:14 PM

@anselman3156

​​The key to living a good life is abiding in Christ

12:15 PM

@teestrypzSOG

​#1

​In Christ alone my hope

12:16 PM

@anselman3156

​​Christian do have success in overcoming sinful inclinations. Perseverance is required to gain complete victory.

12:17 PM

@anselman3156

​​A distinction must be made between sin (which the Christian can avoid) and mental and physical limitations and imperfections

12:18 PM

@teestrypzSOG

#1

​Mind you, Claire doesn’t believe in any God 😂

12:19 PM

@anselman3156

​​We can keep the 10 commandments out of love for Christ, but we can misunderstand some things or be impaired from doing some things we'd like to do by our imperfections

12:20 PM

@UpCycleClub

​​Isn’t there something pure about a newborn baby?

12:20 PM

@anselman3156

​​I recommend reading John Wesley on Christian Perfection. I do readings from it on my channel

12:21 PM

@anselman3156

​​Yes newborn babies are fresh from heaven

12:21 PM

@anselman3156

​​Jesus pointed to infants as largely uncorrupted by the world

12:22 PM

@UpCycleClub

​​Exactly

12:23 PM

@anselman3156

​​Christian should not have a false modesty that denies the victory they do achieve in this life

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40:00  The rules

41:00  Behaviour modification

42:00  Redemption and rehabilitation is in theory possible.

43:00  Nihilism

CBT

44:00  Psychotherapy: Id, Ego and Superego

45:00  Serenity

46:00  We must make the distinction between the minimum moral standard and the ideal, the Lowest Common Denominator and the Highest Common Factor. 

48:00  God is not just you with superpowers.

49:00  God gives us the rope we keep asking for to hang ourselves with.

50:00  The correct belief and correct obedience to the correct rules

51:00  Heaven would be exclusive and devoid of Trinitarian Christians. 

52:00  The correct clothes for the correct occasion