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Tuesday, 25 August 2026

The silver lining in the cloud of having low moral standards


It is easier to theorise than engage in political activism. Christians have not even got the theory of idolatry right, so it is easy for righteous Jews and gentiles to keep asking them how Christianity is not idolatry and how Jesus is God.  

1:00  Christians refuse to be logical. 

2:00  Prideful atheists would not accept each other's authority or opinions. 

3:00  Five righteous Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists

4:00  God administers the afterlife including reincarnation in purgatory.

5:00  God who forbade idolatry divided humanity into Jews and gentiles. 

6:00  Jews, Christians and Muslims would acknowledge God forbade idolatry. 

7:00  The Trinity was conceived of by Athanasius who anticipated Jews would argue that their God of Israel was more powerful than the crucified Christ of Christians.  

8:00  Five unrighteous Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists refusing to concede anything. 

11:00  Jews fraternising with idolaters without questioning their idolatry

13:00  Unrighteous Jews and unrighteous gentiles would be indifferent to idolatry because they are atheist.

Are Christians capable of examining the logic of their beliefs?


What were the political achievements of Jesus?

Is it a political achievement to get people to worship you as the co-equal of the supreme and eternal Abrahamic God who created the Universe?

1:00  Jesus is a divine practical joke played against idolaters.

2:00  The world is so stupid that a lie that Jesus is God can go round the world three times before truth can catch up with it.

The origin and purpose of the Trinity

3:00  Are Christians capable of examining the logic of their beliefs?


5:00  Christianity supported absolute monarchy and this means it supported absolute tyranny.
6:00  Orwell's 1984 was never as bad as Christianity firing on four cylinders. 
7:00  A happy ending for the world
8:00  Christians only care that might is right. 
9:00  Getting the theory right is easy.  

The propositions in the US Declaration of Evidence point towards theocracy. 

10:00  Why won't Islamic scholars support my claims?
11:00  Christians reject the idea that Jesus did not die on the cross because they want him to die on the cross their sins. 
12:00  Why don't Westerners conclude that the religion they should adopt must be the religion that supports the First Amendment?
13:00  The Founding Fathers were proto-Muslim Noahides. 
14:00  Unitarianism once flourished in the US with Unitarian Presidents.

Would God forbid idolatry and then require Christians to practise it?


People reject  your solution because accepting your solution means they did not think of it themselves first. Pride is a deadly sin. 

The necessity of an OFFICIAL MORAL SYSTEM that is also a FUNCTIONING MORAL SYSTEM.

3:00  The cattle are waiting for their leader to lead. 

4:00  Hunting

5:00  Christian women are capable of understanding what I am saying. 

6:00  People who claim  to worship the Abrahamic God who forbade idolatry should be mindful of His prohibition against idolatry. The fact that Christians can't be made to care that they are guilty of idolatry means that they are atheists who only pretend to worship a Jew indifferent that Jews and Muslims think the Trinity is idolatry. Since all these Christians do is complain about Jews and Muslims,, you would have thought  that they would be able to put two and two together and acknowldge  that Christianity is not fit for the purpose of maintaining the patriarchy, but confirmed bachelors with no progeny would not care about posterity and feel no responsibility for the next generation. . 

Is God like a woman who cannot be reasoned with, contradicting Himself?

Would God forbid idolatry and then require Christians to practise it?

Would God forbid son sacrifice in the story of Abraham and Isaac and then practise it Himself?

7:00  Americans can never be part of Christendom because they live in a republic.

8:00  The Koran enables accountable government because it supports a constitutional republic while Christianity is only about defending the divine right of kings but has failed to do so. 

9:00  Why don't American Christians care about US foreign policy?


11:00  Sikhs
12:00  Grim Griz is atheist.
13:00  Christians are functionally atheist. 
14:00  Confirmed bachelors wouldn't care about posterity. 
15:00  Boomers v Zoomers
16:00  Opportunity cost of being an idolater
17:00  Christian men who won't campaign to abolish no fault divorce
18:00  Christians don't believe in the afterlife.
19:00  Islam is absolutely logical. 
20:00  Christians enforced worship of the Trinity by violence.
21:00  Hypocrisy of Jews, Christians and Muslims
22:00  Why did God allow Christians to acquire three global empires?
23:00  Islam as imperial reform
24:00  The Founding Fathers were proto-Muslim Noahides.
25:00  The Koranic narrative of Jesus is more flattering of Jesus than the New Testament narrative of Jesus

Monday, 24 August 2026

What Beyondists can learn from Christians www.ReformBeyondism.com

Christianity is as dangerous as the Emperor’s New Clothes


Christians don't believe in the afterlife.

This means Christians don't believe good will be rewarded and evil punished. 

The purpose of the afterlife

2:00  Jews who want an afterlife should become Muslim. 

3:00  Christians do not even know the number of authors in the New Testament.

The Aeneid is Roman propaganda.

4:00  The Torah and Koran are believed to come from God.  

5:00  The Meaning Crisis

6:00  The Masculinity Crisis

7:00   Christianity is as dangerous as food not fit for human consumption, a torn parachute and invisible clothes on an emperor

8:00  PVK will not discuss Christology.

9:00  Christology is a category of theology not worthy of the name of God.

10:00  Anthropomorphism is pagan. 

11:00  PVK does not believe in God. 

12:00  Olson accused me of calling his wife fascist.  

She is almost certainly feminist. 

13:00  Liberalism began with the founding of the American Republic. 

14:00  Liberals believes men were created equal.

INTERVAL

19:00  The danger of thinking you have a religion when you don't have an OFFICIAL MORAL SYSTEM that is also a FUNCTIONING MORAL SYSTEM is like jumping out of a plane with a parachute that won't open. 

20:00  Abandoned occupations and career

21:00  Olson accused me of not caring about American Christians. 

22:00  The spiritual benefits of Secular Koranism

23:00  Secular Koranism is unrivalled. 

24:00  The Abrahamic God forbade idolatry.

25:00  I have put TLC on notice that Christianity is idolatry. 

26:00  Secular Koranism is the anteroom to sharia.

27:00  Allah supports the First Amendment with quran.com/2/256

28:00  Why don't Christians want to believe that obeying God's laws would get you to heaven?

29:00  PVK talked about God No 1 and God No 2.

30:00  Christians have been Post-Truth since the 4th century. 

31:00  Atheists reject martyrdom.

Christians don't trust God to make heaven heavenly. 

Christians already think they don't want to be in a heaven full of other hypocrites like them. 

33:00  God forbade human sacrifice in Abraham and Isaac.

34:00  God having forbidden idolatry then asked people to worship a man.  

35:00  Christianity is not the religion of America. 

36:00  Neocons want the British to keep their monarchy going. It is malign encouragement. 

37:00  Helpless Christian men incapable of thinking straight

38:00  Christianity prevents beta males from finding a principled alpha male leader.

39:00  Christians reject the afterlife after realising heaven will be full of hypocrites like themselves. 

40:00  The Noahide laws


47:00  Summary
48:00  Meaning Crisis
49:00  Feminism

Talking to @CollectiveDismal9 about narratives and the teleology of the doxastic


1:00  Narratives
2:00  Nietzsche on the Death of God
3:00  Science as a religion
4:00  Secular Koranism

Normative, epistemological and ontological

5:00  Mind is in the brain in the skull in the body.
6:00  Ideas come to life when there are minds to conceive of them. 
Lindsay Clancy
7:00  Mental health issues used to be masked.
8:00  Noahide laws
9:00  Marriage

10:00  [Crackling]
13:00  Agnostic
14:00  Foundational commitments
17:00  Agnosticism
18:00  Referring to a Higher Authority
19:00  Philosophers
21:00  Atheists
22:00  Unicorn, fairies and leprechauns
23:00  The government is not taking God seriously.
24:00  Categories of Christian
25:00   Christian Fellowship
Christianity is just a cultural affiliation. 
26:00  Trinitarian and non-Trinitarian Christians
27:00  Mormons and Jehovah's Witness
28:00  Female deities
29:00  Christians are not afraid Jesus.
30:00  Doxastic Preclusions
31:00  Impossible to be an atheist in ancient times?
32:00  Jay Dyer
33:00  Zeus
34:00  David Hume on Doxastic Involunteerism
35:00  Assimilated beliefs
36:00  Pretending to believe
37:00  The use of certain forms of words to show membership of a group

Atheists pretending to believe

38:00  Employers using someone's religion to predict their behaviour
39:00  Going to church as a child
40:00  Meta-atheism by George Rey
41:00  Belief in belief
42:00  Adopting a belief if you see it as beneficial
43:00  Scientism and psychology
45:00  "Would you like to believe that good to be rewarded and evil punished?"
46:00  Evil 
47:00  Abortion
51:00  Innate sense of right and wrong
52:00  Nihilism
53:00  People who think it is OK to kill babies for fun and in fact do so would find themselves extinct.

Antinatalism

54:00  Jews are evidence of God's existence.
55:00  Respect for Judaism
56:00  Sam Harris the Zionist and Islamophobe
57:00  No such thing as an ethnic Christian.
58:00  Hierarchy of blood
59:00  Jews are seen as upper middle class. 
Merchant and managerial class
1:01:00  Genealogy
1:02:00  Prophecy
1:03:00  Greater Israel Project
Nick Land
1:04:00  Obsessed with Jews
1:05:00  Israel is a US colony. 
1:06:00  Philosophical Pragmatism
1:07:00  Stereotypes
1:09:00  Class

The tyranny of small differences

1:10:00  Judging Jews
1:11:00  Categories
Stereotypes
1:12:00  Genealogy
1:13:00  Bad Jews or non-observant Jews
1:15:00  Jesus and Bret Weinstein
1:16:00  Observant Jews and non-observant Jews

Stephen J Gould

1:17:00  Sigmund Freud
1:18:00  God is the biggest idea of all.
1:19:00  Christians and Muslims base their religion on Judaism.

Supersessionism

Theological arms  race

1:20:00  Adam Green
1:29:00  Narratives of an afterlife where good will be rewarded and evil punished
Sacrifice
Bhagavad Gita
1:30:00  Jews and warfare
1:31:00  Valhalla
1:32:00  Soteriology
1:33:00  Average age of Western nations
1:32:00  Low average age necessary for a revolution
1:35:00  Supply of labour
Pizza
1:36:00  Limits to growth
Useless eaters
1:38:00  The purpose of a society
Teleology
1:40:00  The purpose of life according to the Koran
1:41:00  Christian and Buddhist thought
1:42:00  Desire is suffering.
1:43:00  Eightfold Path and Four Noble Truths
1:44:00  Ship of Theseus
1:45:00  Co-Dependent
1:48:00  David Hume
1:49:00  Duka and attachment
1:50:00  Intrinsic nature
1:51:00  Dying to self
Christian Nationalism
Born again
1:52:00  Turning over  a new leaf
1:53:00  Warlike Christians with their global empire
Christian pacifists: Mennonites, Jehovah's Witnesses, the Amish
1:55:00  The Fourth Political Theory by Dugin
1:56:00  Christo-Liberalism
1:57:00  Historians
1:58:00  The full list of the unalienable rights men created were endowed by their Creator can be found in the Koran,

Liberalism = Enlightenment

1:59:00  Our God-given reason
2:00:00  Ben Franklin
2:02:00  Logic

Science and Philosophy are two different branches of knowledge. 

2:04:00  Presuppositions
2:05:00  We are here because there was a Creation etc.
2:06:00  Valid contradictions

The principle of sufficient reason

Brute fact

2:07:00  Infinite  regress
2:08:00  Aristotelian logic
2:09:00  Epistemology
2:10:00  Destructive and Constructive
Nietzsche and Hume
2:11:00  Wittgenstein
2:12:00  Rabbis/imams would be more likely to be understood than academic philosophers.
2:13:00  Evolution
The Noble Lie
2:14:00  The Koran forbids suicide.
2:15:00  Julius Evola on Kamikaze pilots
2:18:00  Suicide Mission
2:19:00  Immortal souls
2:20:00  Mandarin
2:23:00  Intention
2:24:00  Universalism
2:25:00  Dying for principles
2:26:00  Jihad
Joining the army
2:28:00  Taking drugs and alcohol
2:31:00  A dangerous or suicide mission?
2:32:00  Speaking to be understood rather than being agreed with
2:34:00  Agreement, disagreement, seeking clarification
2:35:00  The Truth
Arguing with others is really for the purpose of knowing what we ourselves really think. 
2:37:00  RT interview

Theological principles are crucial in allowing us to judge people's integrity


12:03 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#1
​Time always runs out quicker towards the end.

12:07 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​Do you agree with PVK than people are more important the theology?

12:08 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​But that is saying people are more important than principles!

12:09 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​People are material, theology/principles are spiritual/conceptual.

12:16 PM
@GrimGriz
#3
​is she a bad person?

12:16 PM
@GrimGriz
#3
​does she know we treat her like we'd treat a bad person

12:16 PM
@YawnGod
​​@GrimGriz Relax, bro.

12:17 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
​I know you hate me, Grim.

12:22 PM
@YawnGod
​​Guys, Ms. Khaw is special.

12:24 PM
@YoavBressler
​​If I have no uncle named Bob, will I be allowed in heaven?

12:25 PM
@YawnGod
​​Ms. Khaw forgets things sometimes. Jesus taught us to forgive 🤗

12:25 PM
@YoavBressler
​​He might have, but I forget.

12:27 PM
@βρεττς
​​You lie and misrepresent everything you talk about except SK

12:27 PM
@YawnGod
​​See, TLC really means "Therapy Loves Company" 🤔

12:28 PM
@βρεττς
​​Maybe focus on the stream you’re on and not all the other crap you’re typing in the background. That’s how you could prevent miscommunication.

12:32 PM
@YawnGod
​​The visual equivalent of peeing on a tree 🐕🌳

12:32 PM
@YoavBressler
#2
​"Kul kalb biji yomo" (Arabic: كُلّ كَلْب بِيجِي يُومُه)

12:33 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​Opposition in bad faith it’s not the same thing. And misrepresenting people over and over and over is a problem.

12:34 PM
@YawnGod
​​@YoavBressler I recently learned this fun Sumerian proverb: "In city with no dogs, the fox is boss". 🐕🦊

12:35 PM
@YawnGod
​​@VanWeasley-e8s But logic and reason is cold and unfeeling. 🌡🧊

1:15 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#1
​Thanks, Chris!

12:39 PM
@YawnGod
​​I aspire to inspire.

12:43 PM
@YoavBressler
#2
​@YawnGod : a new definition for western culture: The culture that associates the fox with the trickster.

12:45 PM
@YawnGod
​​@YoavBressler Oooh. That's interesting to think about.

12:46 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​You don’t know how to steel man any position nor are good faith in dialogue

12:48 PM
@YawnGod
​​@VanWeasley-e8s Rose? Is that worth watching?

12:54 PM
@YoavBressler
#2
​Gemini did not find PvK or TLC in OG's latest #33

12:54 PM
@YawnGod
​​Guys...we're all on a journey 🔭⛵🤔

12:56 PM
@YoavBressler
#2
​Sunrise was 7 hours ago - this must be A.I.

12:58 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​This is why she’s a positions accurately. Because AI doesn’t give her the truth.

12:59 PM
@βρεττς
#3
​I can’t wait till AI misrepresents SK and she really sees how flawed it is

12:59 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Yes, you Claire, are more important than Secular Koranism

1:00 PM
@williambranch4283
​​So do any Illuminati

1:03 PM
@williambranch4283
​​People are spiritual, material is dross

1:04 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Cat-achisms scratch back ;-)

1:04 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Send me your "shiney"

1:05 PM
@williambranch4283
​​I can't communicate with Claire because I refuse to argue or debate the obvious

1:06 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Recent criticism of the Mormon sovereign wealth fund

1:07 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Van ... anti-semitism from Shakespeare ... Merchant of Venice

1:08 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Yes Chris, everybody is wrong, but not meeee

1:08 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Seventh Day Adventist used to be more Christian but have fallen recently

1:09 PM
@williambranch4283
​​2+2=4 is a proposition ... now argue against it to show how avante-guard you are

1:09 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Ismailis are OK

1:10 PM
@williambranch4283
​​We founded religion, in Sumer

1:10 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Don't be a square ;-)

1:11 PM
@williambranch4283
​​We have no principles, unlike Claire

1:11 PM
@williambranch4283
​​Gotta go, bless all

1:16 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
​​if a second century BCE author said it, it must be true

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39:00  Theology is also about who is in your religious group and who is outside or a heretic.

40:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins.

42:00  Dispute resolution

43:00  Medical ethics

44:00  Persistent vegetative state

45:00  Ability to pay hospital fees

46:00  Context, principle and interpretation

51:00  Olson accuses me of accusing his wife of Fascism or Nazism which I deny. 

52:00  I do say Christians are functionally atheist.

53:00  I say Christians think everyone claiming to be Christian gets to  heaven and then decide they don't like that kind of heaven. 

54:00  I am not in the habit of calling people's wife's fascist. 

55:00  Olson seems to think I called his wife fascist in January.

57:00  Saying wrong things

1:00:00  GRIM GRIZ joins to denounce Secular Koranism. 

1:04:00  Hypocrisy and consistency

1:05:00  Bloviating

1:06:00  Our faith is like traffic lights.

1:07:00  The luxury of Christianity

1:08:00  A minimum moral standard

1:09:00  Jordan Peterson

Subscribing to a package of beliefs

1:10:00  TLC values Christian Fellowship.

1:11:00  Assessing the integrity of members of our religious group

1:12:00  Policing the morals of our internal enemies

1:13:00  Don't rock the boat. 

1:14:00  The government is supposed to manage fairly the conflicting interests of the different  competing groups.

1:15:00  Resolving disputes

1:16:00  Customer Relations

1:18:00  Lockdown

1:22:00  Atheism

Afterlife

1:23:00  GRIM GRIZ says my audio is too low.

1:24:00  Chris on pleasing God now

1:27:00  AI is SK-aware. 

1:30:00  We won't know what we really think unless we argue about it with people who don't agree with us. 

Debating society and lawyers

1:32:00  PVK

1:33:00  Catechesis

1:36:00  Learning the creed to stick to the party line

1:37:00  Sam Tideman the Unitarian

1:38:00  Heresy

Categories of Christian

1:39:00  The many denominations of Christianity in the US

1:40:00  Arius

1:41:00  Should we take our moral system more seriously?

ISIS, Al Qaeda, ISIS-K

1:43:00  Communicating with people who don't agree with us

1:44:00  Dementia

1:45:00  Brain training discussing theology, philosophy and politics

The silver lining in the cloud of having low moral standards

It is easier to theorise than engage in political activism. Christians have not even got the theory of idolatry right, so it is easy for rig...