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Saturday, 10 October 2026

The things we are not allowed to say


Bonnie Kristian's book in defence of evangelicals
1:00  Benjamin Boyce
3:00  PVK can be "elusive", comments Tunji
4:00  PVK refuses to discuss body modification and men only spaces.
5:00  Body modification and what the Bible says
11:00  Tattoos
18:00  Women's appearance, modesty and headwear
19:00  Mennonite female headwear

22:00  CHAD joins.
25:00  Consequences of not noticing wife's haircut or being sufficiently enthusiastic about her appearance
30:00  Heroic boxer shorts
36:00  A mess of tattoos

Chad and I chat about depression and mood altering drugs


12:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins.
13:00  Surroundings
15:00  Rush
19:00  WW2
21:00  Prescription drugs v recreation drugs
22:00  Psychological intervention
23:00  Communion wine
Sobriety an idol?
24:00  Fatherhood
25:00  The qualification of therapists
26:00  Being a member of a group can help us and others recognise our problems sooner rather than later.
28:00  Depression in teens and twenties
30:00  Depression is being a disappointment to ourselves.
31:00  A good wife
33:00  Psychotropic drugs blunts our emotional sharpness
34:00  The definition of mental illness

Marriage is the most humane and fairest form of eugenics

11:00 Everyone changes when they get older.

15:00  Marriage is more difficult these days because of fornication and no fault of divorce as well as gay marriage and transgenderism. But marriage is eugenic, but you cannot or will not believe this. Marriageability is a eugenic trait.

18:00 Marriageability is a eugenic trait.

Marriage is eugenic. 

To be marriageable, you have to want to be married to a member of the opposite sex not within the forbidden degrees of consanguinity and someone in this group has to be prepared to marry.

18:00 No DNA tests for fathers in Israel. Shocking.

21:00  Even if all the workforce were robots, someone needs how to know how to maintain and program the robots. 

It is easy to demonstrate that SK USA is more viable than whatever the moronic, mad and malign matriarchy has in mind.

23:00  So someone else agrees with me that the DNA of sex offenders and the offspring of sex offenders should not continue. If most Westerners are sex offenders now, they should repent. You could help with that.

24:00  Marriage prevents people from having children if they are unable to find someone of the opposite sex not within the forbidden degrees of consanguinity to marry them.  

Why not use an ancient institution everyone is familiar with instead of building castles in the air?

26:00  You can have a eugenics programme without sterilising anyone if you treat anyone having children without a marriage license as sex offenders.

27:00  Why would the US government permit the Balkanisation of America just to try out the ideas of an unmarriageable man who would be treated as a sex offender in a theocracy obeying the laws of the Abrahamic God?

That is why you hate God so much, isn't it?

28:00  Why would a global empire want to turn back time to the time of ancient city states to prove ...  what?

https://share.google/aimode/U810ODXd4vnBi4SwT

28:00  You should know that the Akkadian Empire which united Sumerian city states practised marriage.

https://share.google/aimode/EzFVo2bcgHDkhpcTs

29:00  Feminism is the problem, so take it out with the trash with SK USA.

29:30  Women would make rational and moral decisions under SK USA, but you refuse to support it because it is not your idea though you could benefit from it. 

https://clairekhaw.substack.com/p/what-does-secular-koranism-have-to?r=8t05d&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

31:00  Why do you think heterosexual men and women would allow you - who would be considered a sex offender by the Abrahamic God - to breed them like farm animals? Who do you think you are?

32:00  There was a reason why men allowed women to choose their husband or bachelors would kill each other to breed with the most attractive women leading to the extinction of the group.

32:00  Most women are not moral and political philosophers like me. SK USA allows American men of fighting age and American women of child-bearing age to choose each other on the basis of their assessment of each other as a spouse and co-parent.

33:00  Women have always been hypergamous. Men would be hypergamous too if they were women. Only monogamy would prevent women from being hypergamoous. This means you would have to accept a lower status in society as a non-parent, but you are too selfish to consider doing so.

33:00 In order for women to choose wisely, they would have to have loving parents and an extended family. In order to have loving parents, they would have to be reared to respect their parents and elders.

It's so simple but you will reject simplicity because it is not your idea.

34:00  Patriarchy creates more marriageable men and women than a matriarchy in which all moral men and women would be able to agree with each other that the next generation should be reared by their biological married parents living together in a loving relationship.

35:00 Most women are risk averse operating within the parameters of the here and now of what is possible for them in their lifetimes. Men on the other hand are more capable of abstract thinking and future planning.

37:00  Why don't you understand that most people are not like you or me? Shouldn't experience have taught you that they are either too stupid or scared to think outside the box and someone needs to do it for them by being clear about the rules?

38:00 You don't seem to know that Nazi Germany was pretty sexually liberated after Weimar Germany.

41:00  It depends on how you bring up your children.

41:00  You contradict yourself. On the one hand you say it is bad that children are used as slave labour by their parents, on the other you say it is a bad thing that children no longer help their parents and slow them down. Make up your mind.

43:00  Just marriageable whites and non-whites should be allowed to breed.

43:00  SK USA would have a register of races to measure their success, but you refuse to support it because it is not your idea, preferring to inflict on your fellow Americans an idea that is experimental because you insist on rejecting God, organised religion and marriage.

43:00  There is nothing scientific about racism.

44:00  The story you mention about European women choosing a husband just by looking at their back is fake or just part of the fun and games of a folk festival.

https://share.google/aimode/Vuv9vyU6wvPn6cVQe

45:00  Which men are going to choose which women's eggs?

46:00  "Eugenic religious fervour" sounds like SK USA!

It is interesting how your ideas of eugenics lead to mass extermination for men you don't fancy.  

It is not too late to repent with SK USA. 

But you won't because it is not your idea and prefer your  mad scientist one. 

Friday, 9 October 2026

Jonah - God going out of His way to present the Ninevites with the possibility of redemption

 

12:09 PM
@Eolson-helper
#1
​Where’s Claire? This is the nuts and bolts of a system of governance.

12:10 PM
@Eolson-helper
#1
​Under SK would our taxes be limited to the zakat? Or as trinitarian a would we have to pay non-believe tax?

12:11 PM
@Eolson-helper
#1
​I find it super hypocritical that NPR platformed Tucker.

12:12 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@Eolson-helper SK is all about establishing minimum moral standards.

12:13 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@Eolson-helper SK USA would give Americans a flat rate income tax of 20%.

12:13 PM
@Eolson-helper
#1
​Claire- so there are no moral connections to taxes?

12:14 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@Eolson-helper The Koran does not specify the percentage for zakat but it does for khums ie 20%.

12:14 PM
@Eolson-helper
#1
​Claire- who do you Barry the lead? How libertarian of you! 20% flat tax. I can get on board with that :)

12:14 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@Eolson-helper Of course we have to pay taxes to keep government going.

12:15 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
​#2
​@Eolson-helper SK USA definitely has a political economy that would appeal to most Americans who are not mega-rich.

12:17 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@Eolson-helper Please understand that the jizya under SK USA would be exacted on non-US citizens if they are conquered by the US and do not operate SK.

12:19 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Tucker Carlson is asking questions about US foreign policy in the Middle East.

12:30 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​This is the consequence of loss of population.

12:31 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​@chrishoward8473 Did you still want to talk about Mark Parker?

12:33 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
​​true Claire

12:35 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
​Did UPS say why?

12:44 PM
@Eolson-helper
#1
​What about the jizya? Those people don’t have freedom of religion because they will have to pay an extra tax.

12:44 PM
@Eolson-helper
​#1
​Things I disagree with SK #326: registry of dissidents

1:05 PM
@MarkS.-ry7bm
​​set of rules NOW

1:05 PM
@Eolson-helper
​#1
​There’s the rules pivot! :)

1:08 PM
@Eolson-helper
​#1
​Office or dissidents doesn’t seem fair to me.

Thursday, 8 October 2026

Khalid Safir on the Trinity, Jeffrey Archer, First Amongst Equals and soap operas

 


2:00  Lurkers
3:00  Nathaniel Slattery
5:00  Rabbi Mizrachi says God is not there to conform to our moral standards. 


7:00  Zionism


8:00  Medina
Jews
9:00  Evil inclination
10:00  Speaking nicely
11:00  Nice cop, nasty cop
12:00  Comprehension
13:00  Moral imperative
14:00  The rules keep changing.
Christendom
15:00  First Amongst Equals
17:00  The Three Supremes
18:00  The Koran is finite, but the capacity for error and corruption of our ruling classes is infinite.
19:00  The New Testament < The Koran
20:00  Adjudicating
Counting sound arguments
21:00  Vague titles
23:00  Mark Parker

Belief in God generates optimism.

24:00  There is only one Abrahamic God. 
25:00  TLC
26:00  Khalid's students who won't show their faces
28:00  Male v female confidence
29:00  Lindsay Clancy
30:00  Prescriptions
31:00  Doctor
32:00  AI
33:00  Return of the timed written examination
35:00  No fault divorce
37:00  Soap operas
38:00  Dallas, Dynasty, Falcon Crest, Game of Thrones
39:00  The family group
40:00  Your Friends and Neighbours
43:00  Sitcoms
44:00  Father-son relationship
45:00  Theology
46:00  Astrology
47:00  Village
WhatsApp
48:00  Church as a social club
Rules or no rules?
51:00  Sabbath
52:00  Seventh Day Adventists
53:00  The Weekend
Uzzah and Onan
54:00  The Koran has more rights and fewer death penalties. 

Wednesday, 7 October 2026

If you believed in the Abrahamic God, why wouldn't you obey His laws?


Vincent Bruno says he has my problems too. 

2:00  The tactic of non-engagement

3:00  Venturing into hostile territory to propagate SK USA

4:00  How long can this go on?

5:00  Avoiding pseuds





7:00  What is the attraction of Luke Thompson's streams?

9:00  Steve Skojec the Islamophobe

https://www.youtube.com/@TheMTSPodcast 

10:00  PVK only promotes Islamophobes and Christian mediocrities

https://www.livingstonescrc.com/events/sacramento-estuary-conference-2026/2026-10-16

13:00  If you believe in God, nothing's random. 

Protestants don't  make the distinction between mortal and venial sins.

14:00  Felony and misdemeanour

15:00  Vincent Bruno's agnosticism

16:00  Organised religions are the Abrahamic religions.

17:00  Greater compliance with the rules of marriage in a patriarchy

19:00  Mark Parker

https://radicalisedrabbi.blogspot.com/2026/10/why-is-it-very-cynical-move-to-remind.html

20:00  Shari

https://radicalisedrabbi.blogspot.com/2026/10/deliberately-vague-questions-by.html

25:00  Choosing the religion of your parents in your next life once you realise Jesus is not God

27:00  Nathan Ormond

28:00  God made laws for us to obey.

Monster God

29:00  God if He exists is not going to conform to Mark's and other liberals' standards of justice and morality. 

God is love according to Christian Universalism. 

30:00  Bums on pews

31:00  Chad just wants a social club and a friendly society. 

32:00  Sunday social club

33:00  American Association of National Noahide Social Clubs

34:00  Abstract ideas

36:00  Narratives

37:00  Keyboard Army

Jess Purviance

38:00  Estuary Protocols not necessary for men with close friends.

39:00  Fake debate about authenticity and sincerity


40:00  PVK is promoting Bonnie Kristian  - the latest hot chick in the corner
41:00  Christian YouTube is talking about nonsense and arguing about it. 
42:00  PVK refuses to discuss foreign policy.
43:00  Where does Mark Parker gets his moral standards from?
44:00  The monarchical and egalitarian Trinity
45:00  Trinitarian absurdity
46:00  Sam Tideman
47:00  Unitarian Christians avoid me. 


49:00  Christianity and Islam are based on the Torah. 

50:00  Christians treat the Old Testament like a cushion and the New Testament the buttocks of Jesus. 

"My father and I are one."

51:00  The New Covenant which must be the Koran is mentioned in the Book of Jeremiah. 

52:00  A car is not a vegetable. 

53:00  The Founding Fathers read Edward Gibbon's History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire

55:00  The spiritual benefits of having a logical belief system

56:00  The Koran gives us more rights and fewer capital offences.

57:00  How can Jesus have created the Universe?

58:00  Theocracy

Names of God

59:00  Cynical move to use God's laws?

1:00:00  Monster God rejected by Mark Parker

1:01:00  Islamophobes refusing to read the Koran

1:03:00  The Creation was an act of divine love.

Why is it a "very cynical move" to remind Christians that the Abrahamic God made laws for us to follow?


33:00  Emunah and Bitachon is not voodoo.

44:40
@OOOTLAM
​​God if He exists does not disappear just because you no longer believe in Him.

46:58
@OOOTLAM
​​@williambranch4283 Only Christians think God looks like Jesus.

47:56
@OOOTLAM
​​Maybe it is time for a correct understanding of God. It's not that hard, it really isn't.

48:23
@williambranch4283
​​Correct in human terms? Color me skeptical.

48:43
@OOOTLAM
​​@williambranch4283 Correct in absolute terms.

49:06
@williambranch4283
​​The god of authoritarian puritanical politics?

49:30
@williambranch4283
​​What is the absolute? Are you Buddha?

49:46
@OOOTLAM
​​@williambranch4283 God is totalitarian, isn't He?

51:03
@OOOTLAM
​​@williambranch4283 It should be obvious that those who want to correctly worship the Abrahamic God who forbade idolatry should avoid idolatry. Why is that so hard to understand?

52:04
@OOOTLAM
​​@williambranch4283 There are only two religions that forbid idolatry.

52:41
@stefaniecristos8514
​​Secular Koranism sure seems like your idol, Claire.

53:15
@OOOTLAM
​​@stefaniecristos8514 It's just a legal system that uncompromsingly supports the First Amendment.

54:49
@OOOTLAM
​​What is Nathan saying? All these words!

55:26
@OOOTLAM
​​I have already asked my questions.

55:47
@OOOTLAM
​​What does Mark expect faith to deliver?

57:29
@OOOTLAM
​​TLC is stuffed with heretics pretending to be Christian.

58:56
@OOOTLAM
​​I would join if I knew what we are supposed to be discussing. I can't just talk for ages about nothing in particular.

1:02:52
@OOOTLAM
​​Again I ask: what is Nathan talking about?

1:03:24
@rickcosci
​​Yes, he deconstructed the status quo..go into your closet

1:04:02
@OOOTLAM
​​@rickcosci What did Nathan say to deconstruct the status quo?

1:05:02
@OOOTLAM
​​Nobody can sum up what Nathan saying then?

1:05:11
@roderickhare
​​I know Nathan mostly by his reputation. I am genuinely enjoying his thoughtful exploration of this subject. Clearly someone who has paid close attention to the example of this man Jesus.

1:05:39
@OOOTLAM
​​@roderickhare So what is Nathan saying?

1:06:46
@OOOTLAM
​​Everyone is talking nonsense, it would appear. And no one can sum up what Nathan is saying?

1:07:39
@OOOTLAM
​​I really think I am concentrating, but I really have no idea what Nathan is saying.

1:08:02
@OOOTLAM
​​Now we are talking about Marxism?

1:08:21
@OOOTLAM
​​What is very important to pursuing justice?

1:08:27
@OOOTLAM
​​Nobody can remember.

1:08:42
@roderickhare
​​If you squint, what Jesus seemed to hate the most was hypocrisy and self-righteousness.

1:09:17
@OOOTLAM
​​@roderickhare Christian hypocrisy is unsurpassed

1:09:59
@OOOTLAM
​​Non sequitur after non sequtur.

1:11:41
@OOOTLAM
​​@Smithistory Politics is about government, morality, law, narratives and values.

1:14:00
@OOOTLAM
​​@Smithistory Our laws need to be based on a moral system. Moral systems are religions.

1:14:38
@OOOTLAM
​​If we were being rational, we would choose the best religion for our group.

1:15:04
@OOOTLAM
​​America does not have a functioning moral system but Americans don't seem to want one.

1:20:52
@OOOTLAM
​​Christmas is just Saturnalia a pagan winter festival. Under SK USA Jewish festivals would be celebrated and the Jewish calendar used.

1:21:46
@OOOTLAM
​​Under SK USA things would make sense and people would express themselves clearly. Schoolchildren would learn grammar.

1:25:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins. 
1:26:00  The problem of evil
1:27:00  Just because someone enjoys wealth and power does not necessarily mean they will go to heaven.
1:29:00  The Book of Job articulates the problem of evil ie theodicy.
1:30:00  Suffering is punishment for sin or a trial.

"Monster God"

1:31:00  Are the Abrahamic religions about being guided by divine revelation or pretending you worship Jesus?

1:33:00  Christians can speak any heresy and no one cares. 

1:36:00  If you believe in God, why wouldn't you obey His laws?

1:37:00  "Iran is doing OK."

1:38:00  "Random villages in Vietnam"

1:40:00  "Abraham could have been a schizophrenic for all we know!"

"There's two [Abrahamic Gods]!"

There is no textual or historical basis in mainstream biblical scholarship or Jewish, Christian, and Islamic traditions for the claim that two different gods were involved in the story of Abraham and Isaac. [1]

What the Biblical Text Actually Says (Genesis 22)

  • The Command: In Genesis 22:2, "God" (Elohim) tests Abraham by telling him to offer his son Isaac as a burnt offering. [1, 2]
  • The Intervention: In Genesis 22:11–12, "the Angel of the Lord" (Malak YHWH) calls out from heaven and stops Abraham, saying not to harm the boy because the test of faith is complete. [1, 3, 4]
  • The Identity: In classical theology and narrative structure, the Angel of the Lord is not a second, competing deity, but a messenger or manifestation of the same single God (YHWH / Elohim) who issued the initial command. [1]

Why People Might Misinterpret the Story

  • Distinct Voices/Personas: Some readers interpret the transition from a harsh demand for sacrifice to a merciful cancellation as a psychological or moral contradiction, leading some modern commentators to rhetorically ask if God was "only joking" or testing boundaries. [5, 6]
  • Distinction Between Gods and Cultures: Scholars note that the story actually serves the opposite purpose—it contrasts the single God of Abraham with surrounding Canaanite or pagan deities who routinely demanded child sacrifice (such as Molech), showing that the God of Israel rejects human sacrifice and provides a substitute ram. [7, 8, 9]
  • Gnostic or Alternative Views: Minor, fringe esoteric or gnostic traditions sometimes split the Old Testament creator God (the Demiurge) from a higher god of mercy, but this is a later philosophical imposition rather than anything derived from the plain text of Genesis 22.
Would you like to explore how different religious traditions (Jewish, Christian, or Islamic) interpret the meaning of the Binding of Isaac?

1:42:00  What is the plot?

1:43:00  PAUL ALYN interrupts with Psalm 105 and 106.

1:52:00  Why is it a "very cynical move" to infer that God (if indeed He does exist) who made laws for us expects us to obey them?

2:04:00  Picking on me again.

2:07:00  Paul Alyn supporting the law and me!

2:11:00  Church discipline

2:12:00  Godliness and virtue

2:29:00  There are three kinds of Christians:

1) Cultural Christians
2) Believing Christians
3)  Christian Nationalists

2:34:00  Are Christians really so confident that Curses for Disobedience in Deuteronomy 28 do not apply to them?

2:35:00  Karen Armstrong

The things we are not allowed to say

Bonnie Kristian's book in defence of evangelicals https://firstthings.com/the-monstering-of-evangelicalism/ https://bonniekristian.subst...