11:41 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
@SeekingGenuine Do you think it is time to discuss Western masculinity on my channel?
11:43 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#3
Claire, I could be open to discussing this, along with western femininity. Been trying to get a discussion going with some of my IRL friends to gauge the tension there
11:43 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
Britain tried to smash Germany because it was rising up and catching up. That was what WW1 and WW2 about. That's why America is trying to starve China of its energy supplies by 2030.
11:44 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
@VanWeasley-e8s How sad. Playing the blame game is not really a viable survival strategy. The role of men is to solve problems.
11:46 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
@SeekingGenuine Do you get the impression that Western men of fighting age are suffering from the emotional equivalent of Paraphilic infantilism?
11:47 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
@SeekingGenuine You know both Brett and Scott have blocked me from their channel, don't you? Probably, Olson will be following suit.
11:48 AM
@Eolson-helper
#1
I’m found out! I guess I will have to inform the Chinese pastor who’s van I’m going to help fix on Saturday that I’ve been outed as a racist against Chinese.
11:48 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
The Chinese have no business worshiping a Jew executed for blasphemy.
11:49 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
@VanWeasley-e8s The matriarchy wants to drug the useless eaters and then get them to commit suicide.
11:49 AM
@Eolson-helper
#1
Rob- just because I didn’t mention the poppy fields in Afghanistan (and south east Asia, were we also had a military intervention) that I don’t consider them to be a part of the US issues. I can…
11:50 AM
@SeekingGenuine
#3
Claire, I’m curious what you tell yourself the reason is for your banning on their channels
11:50 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
The interesting thing about the Anglo Saxon is that whatever they do to non-Anglo Saxons they end up doing it to their own people.
11:51 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#3
@SeekingGenuine enuine The lack of intellectual honesty and courage in feminised and infantilised men, of course. They can only survive in their echo chamber or play pen, if you prefer.
11:52 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
The trouble with having a religion that makes you believe in a lie is that it makes you lie to yourself and believe in your own propaganda.
11:53 AM
@Eolson-helper
#2
I agree, there was super shady stuff with us in the poppy fields of Afghanistan and in the fields of Vietnam and Cambodia. And in South American as well. Our hands are not clean. And our appetites…
11:53 AM
@Eolson-helper
#2
And addictions lead us into bad places.
11:54 AM
@VanWeasley-e8s
however a bit "ironic" how opium production soared and reached record highs during the US military presence, supplying a massive portion of the global heroin market
11:55 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
Most men are not interested in foreign policy because they are so infantilised they prefer to believe the official version because their female partners prefer the official version.
11:55 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
For an imperial nation, it is astounding how little interest the average American takes in US foreign policy. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
11:56 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
To be fair to Americans, when they try to take an interest in US foreign policy in the Middle East, they are invariably called antisemites and Nazis eg Tucker.
11:59 AM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
I have been proposing a way for men of fighting age to protect themselves from being drafted into fighting and dying in neocon wars.
12:01 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
I usually say I’m pedantic when attend to the literal meanings of words, in a sassy way probably
12:06 PM
@βρεττς
Have covered masculinity yet?
12:11 PM
@teestrypzSOG
Claire doesn’t practice OSK. She can’t. It’s a system designed to control people for the air of government. Not a worldview
12:18 PM
@teestrypzSOG
Long live DEI 🙏
12:19 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
But I’m unsure if DEI is doing what they think they are doing
12:20 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
My company had “Sensitivity training” and it was teaching me to simply “not go there”….which is promoting non-sensitivity
12:25 PM
@teestrypzSOG
I’m so tempted to hop on but I can’t go from avoiding slip consumption to contributing to slop creation
12:30 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
@VanWeasley-e8s Did I say anything about Scott's wife? I really don't remember!
12:31 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@teestrypzSOG You will be crying out for SK soon.
12:31 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
DEI is intersectional feminism.
12:33 PM
@βρεττς
Claire, you really don’t remember having the whole homewrecker conversation. Your Hilarious in your big innocence.
12:33 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
Jacob Faturechi was talking about atheists having their own theology. I should stream about that.
12:34 PM
@βρεττς
Fake innocence
12:34 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
What did I say about Scott's wife, Brett? I suppose it is in theory possible that I can sleep post in people's live streams and have no memory of it afterwards.
12:34 PM
@βρεττς
#3
Probably
12:35 PM
@βρεττς
#3
Although, maybe it was Rob
12:35 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
I remember Rob doing it but Scott was looking for an excuse to block me anyway.
12:36 PM
@βρεττς
#3
There’s always an excuse to block you, however. Rob is a harder decision because sometimes he’s rational.
12:37 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
Brett getting the whip out
12:37 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
What have I said that is untrue or illogical, Brett?
12:38 PM
@WhiteStoneName
Never inconsistent...
12:38 PM
@βρεττς
#3
Your understanding of Christianity is untrue. Because you have a logic frame that is scientific.
12:38 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
He said you're irrational Claire, not untrue or illogical
12:38 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
If I had been allowed to continue my conversation with Chris, I would be talking about who and what should be the supreme morality.
12:39 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@MarcInTbilisi To be irrational is to be illogical.
12:40 PM
@WhiteStoneName
Rationality > Rationalism. To be rational is to want to know what you don't know and see what you don't see. ie. humble, open to revelation
12:41 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
from ratio @WhiteStoneName , to find a balance?
12:41 PM
@diamonddaveyt
@OfficialSecularKoranism No? Im American, live in Mongolia
12:42 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@diamonddaveyt How are things in Mongolia?
12:42 PM
@βρεττς
#3
What brings you to Mongolia?
12:42 PM
@diamonddaveyt
My wife lol
12:42 PM
@WhiteStoneName
idk, Marc. I feel like it's even more complex/simple than balance. Justice is more like forgiveness than scales.
12:42 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@diamonddaveyt So your wife is Mongolian?
12:42 PM
@diamonddaveyt
@OfficialSecularKoranism Very chill.
12:42 PM
@diamonddaveyt
@OfficialSecularKoranism Yep.
12:42 PM
@βρεττς
#3
Luke do you really believe that?
12:43 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
I was at college with a Mongolian women, damn she was beautiful.
12:43 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
@diamonddaveyt Is your wife a Tibetan Buddhist?
12:43 PM
@diamonddaveyt
Mongolia is a lot slower paced than other countries Ive lived in, but its pretty solid. Prob going to get citizenship after PR is finalized
12:44 PM
@WhiteStoneName
About forgiveness? Yes.
12:44 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
In England justice has a blindfold & scales.
12:44 PM
@diamonddaveyt
@OfficialSecularKoranism Shes more secular, her family is a mix of Tibetan Buddhist and Tengrinist (Mongolian Shamanism)
12:44 PM
@βρεττς
#3
About Justice
12:44 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
I guess some TLCers didn't get the homeroom memo, you dont have to believe your faith tradition because you will eventually learn it's a literary myth not historically literal
12:46 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
We are all being encouraged to be functionally atheist by our malign matriarchy shoving DEI down our throats.
12:46 PM
@βρεττς
#3
So you think the natural world is less real?
12:46 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
If you don't believe in the afterlife, you are functionally atheist.
12:47 PM
@βρεττς
#3
Nobody here doesn’t believe in the afterlife Claire knock it off
12:47 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
"who cares about what is true, go to church because you will be surrounded by other people like you" - noble white lies
12:48 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
If Christians believe in the afterlife, they would cease and desist from their idolatry.
12:48 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
Don't know who said it but, atheists don't exist.
12:48 PM
@diamonddaveyt
@MarcInTbilisi Sorry, missed your comments. Yeah I like living here. Prefer it to the US in many ways.
12:48 PM
@βρεττς
#3
So then how do you Square us not believing it idolatry
12:49 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
Christians don't care that Christianity is idolatry because they don't think God exists to punish anyone for anything.
12:49 PM
@βρεττς
#3
Dennis Miller
12:49 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
"what is highest and how to get there" = circumabulating the hyperobject cube of whiteness
12:50 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
caucasity strikes again
12:51 PM
@βρεττς
#3
Because you think we believe Jesus forgives us for our sins because of what he did you think we don’t believe anyone to be punished. You know we believe God will punish. you use Christianity
12:51 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
folks, don't fear the reaper
12:51 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Shoulderserf had the decency to admit this.
12:51 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
you can't even define Christ
12:51 PM
@diamonddaveyt
This a Christian channel?
12:52 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Brett, please try to take remedial English lessons.
12:52 PM
@βρεττς
#2
No
12:52 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
ask Ups for proof
12:52 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@diamonddaveyt How did you find this channel?
12:52 PM
@βρεττς
#2
Lots of Christians tho
12:52 PM
@diamonddaveyt
@OfficialSecularKoranism It was hosted under the live section of Youtube
12:52 PM
@diamonddaveyt
@OfficialSecularKoranism I tend to float around whatever pops up there
12:52 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
Hey Brett, Claire threw that insult at me recently. It got her banned from my substack.
12:53 PM
@βρεττς
#2
I don’t wanna take the time to write perfect sentences. I just use speech to text. I know you’re a big keyboard Nazi knock yourself out.
12:53 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
@diamonddaveyt Please check out my channel and search Secular Koranism.
12:53 PM
@βρεττς
#2
It is funny how you’re in the room and not in the room all at the same time. I think that’s probably how you live your life. But I’ll keep praying for you Claire.
12:54 PM
@βρεττς
#2
But we all know your game. You’ll just record this in a rant about it on your channel.
12:55 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
What exactly is it that you pray for when you pray for me, Brett? I just pray you lot will one day heed your moral imperative and use facts and logic to solve problems.
12:56 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
If PVK said it, it must be "true"
12:57 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
The point I would have gone on to make had the conversation between Chris and I been allowed to continue would be POLITICAL AND MORAL THEOLOGY.
12:57 PM
@βρεττς
#3
Truth is rooted in Christ
12:57 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
The Greek concept of truth (aletheia) means "un-concealment" or disclosure, whereas the Latin concept (veritas) relates to correctness, exactness, and moral/legal accuracy.
12:57 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
DEI is designed to divide and rule the cattle.
12:58 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
Martin Heidegger revived the concept of aletheia
12:58 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
Is it called a tall tale to be an alliteration like short story? Which came first?
12:59 PM
@teestrypzSOG
You should take it as a compliment that I’m /dissapointed. I always knew we’re all Cooked
1:00 PM
@teestrypzSOG
Oh wait, she’s a girl…we think
1:00 PM
@WhiteStoneName
Yeah, Heidegger is much closer to my thoughts on truth.
1:00 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
ok, I'm now counting 3 in TLC who don't believe in God's love.
1:01 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#2
Heidegger is a heap of hooey.
1:01 PM
@WhiteStoneName
Idk, I'm still doubtful or open to the idea that the combustion engine did more damage to humanity than AI will. Idk. My mental jury is out.
1:01 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
see, we can agree Claire
1:02 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
PVK is going to squeeze as much out of his Calvinism while ignoring the truth. The historian in him should allow him to understand all the points I am making which will not be acknowledging.
1:03 PM
@teestrypzSOG
Marc said “Tayo, Bee and Claire do not believe in God’s love”…pass it on
1:03 PM
@βρεττς
#3
The unconcealment motive is gnostic
1:04 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
y'all said it, I'm simply repeating.
1:04 PM
@βρεττς
#2
I’m talking about capital T truth. Not propositional truth.
1:04 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Arday could have been murdered by the security services to further divide and rule the cattle.
1:04 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
I spent 7 years in Cambridge, very left wing.
1:05 PM
@βρεττς
#2
I would’ve kicked you off already Claire. But I don’t think Chris knows you’re motives.
1:05 PM
@OfficialSecularKoranism
#1
Now some white female has killed herself after being subject to a disciplinary hearing in a government department.
1:05 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
damn it Claire, that's twice we agree. Stop making a habit of it.
1:06 PM
@βρεττς
#2
She speaks And it’s back to her agenda
1:07 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
killed themselves with 2 bullets in the head.
1:07 PM
@βρεττς
#2
SK would solve everything. Why didn’t I think of that?
1:07 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
character of Paul was a Gnostic Stoic middle Platonist- ie Marcion's Pauline texts were prior to the Father's canonized versions that inserted Septuagint interpolations to fit the dogmatic doctrine
1:07 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
SK is binary. Only trinities work in practice.
1:08 PM
@βρεττς
#2
A lot of assumptions there
1:08 PM
@βρεττς
#2
Rob, nobody’s talking about your academic learning. Somebody really screwed you up because they knew you hated the way the world was.
1:10 PM
@βρεττς
#2
You’re speaking her language, Scott she has a solution she’ll tell you all about it
1:11 PM
@βρεττς
#2
Paul fought against gnostics. But you believe a different history.
1:12 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
Dr David Litwa’s book "Marcion: The Gospel of a Wholly Good God" (2025)
1:12 PM
@βρεττς
#2
Post modern
1:13 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
ie Challenging Heresiology
1:13 PM
@βρεττς
#2
Heresy with which worldview?
1:14 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
Restoring Early Christianity with Priority of Marcion’s Gospel
1:15 PM
@βρεττς
#1
You can’t take the New Testament without taking the Old Testament Rob
1:15 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
ancient mysticism = ancient mystery rite traditions
1:16 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
im well aware of the 2nd century BCE Alexandrian production of the Greek Septuagint
1:17 PM
@βρεττς
#1
So you believe everything we know about ancient biblical history has been corrupted and you’re not gonna believe it?
1:19 PM
@βρεττς
#1
And then you have Lindsay Clancy. What do you do with that kind of evil?
1:20 PM
@βρεττς
#1
Believe defined as having a firm persuasion of the truth based on evidence, testimony, or deductions, rather than personal knowledge.
1:21 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
Aristotle's persuasion is not synonymous with colonialism
1:21 PM
@βρεττς
#1
I believe in the biblical evidence we have been given. Every time they turn over a spade it confirms the Bible. Have a good day, Rob.
1:21 PM
@VanWeasley-e8s
claire saved the dawn
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29:00 CLAIRE KHAW joins.
32:00 We need to know what our group stands for.
34:00 When our beliefs are questioned in the culture war
36:00 Secular Koranism
37:00 Passing the buck
38:00 Dispute resolution
39:00 How civil wars start
40:00 Imperialism
41:00 Improving the government of the West
42:00 Theorising
43:00 DEI is a belief system.
45:00 Thumb on the scale
Majorities and minorities
46:00 Good looking people
47:00 Republican meritocracy
48:00 Efficiency
Shareholders wanted DEI?
50:00 Academia
51:00 Jason Arday as a token of diversity and DEI
Lowering educational standards to make more money is like selling Indulgences.
53:00 I deny saying anything about Scott's wife.
1:30:00 Suicide
Chloe Moffat
1:32:00 Robin Williams
1:33:00 MAID
1:32:00 Suicide pods
1:34:00 Our ruling classes are nihilists.
1:35:00 Social pressure
1:36:00 Internal language of the group
Adulterous pastor
1:38:00 DEI is our new religion.
1:39:00 "Social justice"
1:40:00 "Political Correctness gone mad!"
1:41:00 Change is accelerating.
1:42:00 Suicide is forbidden in the Koran.
1:43:00 When suicide was punished severely
1:45:00 Punished for using facts and logic
