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Friday, 11 July 2025

The diversity of Beyondism would be divisive in nations and empires

3:00  Secular Paganism  - a profound idea?

https://secularpaganism.blogspot.com/

6:00  Beyondism

7:00  Unifying cultural force

8:00  Beyondism > Secular Paganim

Divisions occur naturally and organically.

9:00  Social cohesion and pluralism

Politics is religion.

10:00  Diversity and racial differences

11:00  Comparative religion

12:00  Little countries or big empires?

Will empires create more or less diversity?

13:00  Cooperative competition or Balkanisation?

15:00  Christianity keeps changing.

16:00  Empires are diverse.

17:00  Monotheists

18:00  Christian Nationalism

20:00  Book of rules

21:00  Vincent intends to ban Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Hinduism and Zoroastrianism.

22:00  Judaism has been around for longer than Vincent.

23:00 Cults

25:00  Isn't Beyondism Darwinism?

29:00  Immigration

30:00  Going with the flow

31:00  Islam created new groups.

32:00  Rules are made to be broken.

33:00  Spinoza, lies and propaganda

34:00  Following the rules

35:00  The most powerful Abrahamic God

36:00  Islam and Catholicism are both franchises.

37:00  Secular Koranism is independent business.

39:00  SK USA

40:00  Charles Taze  Russell

42:00  Jehovah's Witnesses never join the army.

45:00  Interpreting the Koran

Singapore Airlines uniform for air stewardesses

46:00  Reducing differences

48:00  The stereotype of the rebellious teenager

49:00  Is it wise to create differences just for the sake of creating them?

50:00  Jehovah's Witnesses

51:00  Beyondism

Apartheid

53:00  Governments adopting Secular Koranism

55:00  Important people

56:00  We are diverse enough.

57:00  Imitating Vincent's accent

59:00  Register of Converts in Secular Koranism

1:00:00  Secular Koranist Marriage Bureau

Thursday, 10 July 2025

British values and the importance of marriage reinforcing gender roles

9:00  ANGLO-IRANIAN joins to discuss Cultural Christians.


11:00  Being a true believer

14:00  Fundamental British values

15:00  Judeo-Christianity

18:00  Fundamental Tudor values?

19:00  Culture

21:00  Official belief system

24:00  Likes and retweets

25:00  Mark Collett story

27:00  Defending principles

29:00  Growing up in whole families

30:00  The patient is unresponsive.

31:00  US foreign policy

32:00  Optimism and pessimism

The Apprentice

34:00  DR HANNAH joins to discuss Independent Muslim.

35:00  RAKE joins.

36:00  Islam as an imperial religion 

37:00  Christianity

38:00  Queen Victoria: "The British Empire is the Caliphate."

40:00  Praying for King Charles to convert  to Islam

41:00  Trump

42:00  Communication

43:00  A big idea  and a totem pole

45:00  Conscription

46:00  Drone shows in China

47:00   5G

48:00  Berserking British

49:00  Berlin to Baghdad Railway

50:00  Belgium is a boxing ring or the car park.

51:00  Restoring order

53:00  Israel is an American colony.

The enemy is within.

56:00  Park warden

https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/06/30/modernity-globalization-politics-history

59:00  Dominatrix Maggie Thatcher

1:00:00  The smack of firm government

1:01:00  Unmarried parents treated as sex offenders

1:03:00  Noahide laws < Secular Koranism

1:05:00  CAROL joins to discuss gender roles.

1:12:00  Husband and wives are supposed to treat each other as honoured guests.

1:13:00  Playing nicely and sharing our toys

1:14:00  Freud

1:15:00  Elders are preferable to experts.

1:16:00  Queueing

1:17:00  Order, hierarchy and harmony

1:18:00  Androgynous nightmare

1:19:00  The Trinity

LGBT

1:22:00  WREN joins to tells me what I tell her: that she is putting the cart before the horse.

Wednesday, 9 July 2025

Making America greater that it ever was by becoming the Caliphate

2:00  DR HANNAH joins to ask if Uncle Sam is a sick man. 

4:00  Is Uncle Sam satanic?



11:00  Democracy and consent
17:00  Wanting the world to end
18:00  Optimism is necessary for survival. 
19:00  Muslims don't want the world to end.
20:00  Ted Cruz and eschatology
21:00  It would be disrespectful to hurry the Messiah.
23:00  Filipina Miriam is unhinged.
27:00  Wren Cobb
29:00  A big idea is necessary.
30:00  Pagans are hopelessly divided.
Abrahamic religions should be chosen. 
31:00  Antisemites
Trump is crazy now.


33:00  Trump's downsized American land empire and protectionism
36:00  Trump's erratic behavioour is bad for America's reputation. 

37:00  CAROL joins.
38:00  America's  reputation on the international stage
40:00  Regime change in Iran is what America seeks.
41:00  The four rightly-guided Caliphs
42:00  Monarchs are not halal.
43:00  Crazy interpretations of the Koran to do with political expediency under absolute monarchs. 
44:00  No First Amendment for Muslims despite the existence of quran.com/2/256
47:00  The Caliphate
49:00  Theological arguments are political in origin. 
51:00  The successor to Muhammad
56:00  Ali as successor. 
57:00  No Caliphate
Imam Khamenei
58:00  Imam of the Age
1:00:00  Sunni v Shia
1:01:00  Sykes-Picot Agreement
Monarchy v Republic
1:02:00  The four rightly-guided Caliphs were not related to each other.
1:04:00  Book of Samuel records  God's disapproval of monarchy.
1:06:00  The First Amendment is supported by quran.com/2/256


1:07:00  Britain is a constitutional monarchy.
1:09:00  The Crown by Netflix
Cuties
1:13:00  Jodie Foster in Taxi driver
1:16:00  Sunni-Shia divide
Syria and Ariel Sharon
1:17:00  Sykes-Picot
1:18:00  Anglo-American relations
1:19:00  Moral leadership of America as the Caliphate


"We're going to take out seven countries in five years starting with Iraq and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and finishing off with Iran."

1:21:00  Now or never
1:22:00  Graham T Allison and  the Thucydides Trap
1:23:00  Blood is not thicker than water as far as George V and Nicholas II were concerned. 
1:26:00  Zionist
1:27:00  Israel



1:31:00  The Plain Truth
https://thearmstrongmystery.blogspot.com/
1:34:00  Eastern Question
1:39:00  Herbert Armstrong was born a Quaker.
1:40:00  Armstrong was against Freemasonry.

Herbert Armstrong opposed Freemasonry primarily due to his belief that it was a satanic conspiracy and a form of idolatry. He viewed Freemasonry as a system that promoted false worship and worldly values, contrasting it with the true worship of God as he understood it. His opposition stemmed from his interpretation of biblical prophecies, particularly his belief in British Israelism and the "lost tribes" of Israel. 

Satanic Conspiracy:
Armstrong believed Freemasonry was a secret society controlled by Satan, working to undermine Christianity and promote a one-world government.

Idolatry:
He saw Freemasonry's rituals and symbols as pagan and idolatrous, incompatible with true Christian worship.

False Worship:
Armstrong viewed Freemasonry's teachings as a distortion of biblical truth and a form of idolatry, promoting worldly wisdom over God's word.

British Israelism:
This belief, central to Armstrong's theology, linked the Anglo-Saxon nations to the "lost tribes" of Israel and fueled his interpretation of prophecies about the end times and the role of these nations.

End-Times Prophecy:
Armstrong believed that Freemasonry played a role in the end-times events he prophesied, particularly the rise of a "revived Roman Empire" that would oppose Christ's return.


1:44:00  The real purposes of Freemasonry

1:45:00  Catholics are excommunicated for being Masons.

1:46:00  Protestantism

1:47:00   Usury and Calvin

TULIP

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Points_of_Calvinism 

1:53:00  My theory on Calvin's predestination is linked to priestly absolution

1:57:00  Avoiding being accused of the Protestant form of selling of indulgences

https://clairekhaw.substack.com/p/maga-when-did-america-stop-being

2:02:00  If America became the Caliphate, it would become even greater than it ever was. 

2:09:00  Monarchy v Republic

Separation of the church and state

2:11:00   Ashurism

2:15:00  Properly believing in God

2:16:00  Jews

2:18:00  Israel

2:25:00  Dual citizenship and the IRS

Is Christian Nationalism a viable upgrade on White Nationalism?

7:31:00  CLAIRE KHAW joins.  

Tuesday, 8 July 2025

Poetry reading; Jehovah's Witnesses; Anglo-Israelism; wrongthink


Both by Grok

A BARGAIN WITH GOD


In palaces tall or hovels low,  

We kneel beneath the state's shadow—  

A slave in silk is still enchained  

Where Caesar’s will remains unstrained.


Did not Sulla's wrath once scorch the scrolls,  

When Rome’s own blood lined deathly rolls?  

The Senate bowed, its pride undone,  

By proscriptions carved in iron and sun.


If tyranny writes its price in fear,  

Why trade our souls year after year?  

The law of man shifts like the sand—  

The law of God, a firmer stand.


So what of sharia, etched with grace,  

A justice not swayed by power’s face?  

If heaven offers fairer terms,  

Why settle still for worldly worms?


What bargain holds more lasting worth:  

The fleeting crowns of trembling earth,  

Or timeless peace, divinely spun—  

Where conscience serves the Only One?


7:00  

THE DIVINE JEST


Oh, God, the Supreme, with a twinkle divine,  

Plays jests on the hearts that to idols incline.  

Christians, so stubborn, with learning askew,  

Cling to their “threeness” while One remains true.  


Jews, fierce in faith, know the Third Principle’s call,  

No form, no flesh, can bind God at all.  

With Muslims they stand, though their hearts may divide,  

Proclaiming His oneness, no gods at His side.  


Yet Christians, enamored of Trinity’s maze,  

Raise Jesus to rival the Ancient of Days.  

Lest Jews claim the triumph in theology’s fight,  

They craft a three-headed God, blurring the light.  


Their empires rose high, drenched in warlike might,  

Spanish, then British, then American light.  

Three realms to rule, with their crosses held high,  

Yet each one now crumbles beneath a stern sky.  


The Muslims, once chained, grow in number and fire,  

While Christian conviction frays thin, set to tire.  

Was their Trinity faith but a mask, a charade?  

Hypocrisy’s veil, in absurdity’s shade?  


The Qur’an speaks plain, with a curse for the fake,  

Hypocrites doomed to a fiery lake.  

Could Allah have spun this grand jest from the start,  

Three empires to grant, then to tear them apart?  


A practical joke by the Master of mirth,  

To watch Christian pride sink in imperial dearth.  

Sharia’s soft steps now encroach on their lands,  

As idols dissolve in the Almighty’s hands.  


How many centuries will pass in their haze,  

Till Christians perceive the Divine’s clever plays?  

The Supreme Practical Joker, with laughter unseen,  

Watches their fall, where His truth reigns supreme.



12:00  UnKoranic proposals?

15:00  Proposed Secular Koranist intergenerational interaction

18:00  Boomer blaming

Youth Works Programme

20:00  Lonely old people

21:00  Jehovah's  Witnesses spoon-feeding

22:00  You can  live forever in paradise

27:00  JW exam

28:00  Credal baptism

29:00  JW apostates

31:00  Socialising

36:00  LGBT JW

37:00  JW anti-natalism


39:00  JW allow the pill

40:00  Charles Taze Russell

42:00  Congregationalism is centred in New England

45:00  Paula White


47:00  Presbyterianism
53:00  Incorrect predictions
Erasure of the past

54:00  Dictatorial personality
55:00  Allegations of immoral conduct  
56:00  Rose Ball and the amorous jellyfish
58:00  Miracle wheat

59:00  Be Wise as Serpents
Noahide Pyramidology

1:07:00  America is Zion for Mormons
1:08:00  Polygamy

Herbert Armstrong

1:12:00  Armstrong and Radar interview


1:16:00  British Israelism

William Blake's Jerusalem

1:17:00   William Gladstone 

The Eastern Question

1:18:00  Jews who didn't want a homeland

1:21:00  Epstein list
1:22:00  Ghislane Maxwell
1:23:00  Alan Dershowitz
1:24:00  America Party
1:25:00  Karoline Leavitt
1:29:00  Bombing people you have told to come to the negotiating table
1:30:00  Muslim  Mayor Mamdani of New York
1:31:00  Sadiq Khan
1:32:00  Unprincipled Muslims and Jews
1:33:00  Islamophobe
1:34:00  Alliance of Responsible Citizens ("ARC")
1:35:00  Conspiracy theories
1:36:00  Competing Jewish conspiracy theorists
1:37:00  75% chance of success
1:39:00  Reversing the burden of proof in the UK for rape
1:40:00  Patriarchy v Matriarchy
1:41:00  Official narrative, Adam and Eve, Pandora's Box
1:42:00  Pagan narrative
1:43:00  Secular Paganism
1:44:00  The moral probity of the people in charge
1:45:00  Ethical monotheists
1:46:00  Corruption index
Agnostic state
1:47:00  Convictionless people
1:48:00  Christian Zionism
1:49:00  Hypocrites
1:50:00  HinJews and BuJews
Spinoza
1:51:00  Compliance
1:52:00  Muslims who don't want sharia
1:53:00  Hypocrites
Taking religion seriously with the register system
1:54:00  Group Vincent v Group Claire
1:56:00  Caliphate USA

Is the Torah the appetiser, the Koran the main course and the New Testament junk food?


1:00  Whether there was a Creation is a belief that has political consequences. 

2:00  High and low status beliefs

3:00  Fundamentalism ie taking a principled position lowers your status in the matriarchy who will call you a fanatic likely to become a terrorist just for sticking to your religious principles. 

4:00  Hypocrites

Doooovid's Multiple Truth Synthesis

5:00  You can't have your cake and eat it.

6:00  Believing in lies

7:00  Religious groups marry within their religious groups if they take their religion seriously.

8:00  Certainty and conviction is good for mental health.

9:00  Being forced to repeat a lie is bad for mental health.

10:00  Hierarchy of a family

11:00  White people who blame the Jews and the problem with this

12:00  Convictionless pagans

13:00  Idolatry creates neurosis.

14:00  Jews are not necessarily higher status than gentiles since they are not more likely to get to heaven when the Torah has 36 capital offences unlikely to be meted out in this life and therefore to be meted out in their afterlife.

15:00  Who is higher in status - the first born or the last born?

16:00   The Koran is clearly the rational and moral choice but Westerners are now beyond reason.

The Koran is like a bespoke suit for gentiles while the gentile using the Torah is like a large man trying to get into the suit of a dwarf  needing extensive alterations which will still make him look ridiculous causing him to blame Jews when his sleeves and trousers are too long or too short.  

17:00  "Judeo-Christianity" after WW2 will develop into the Islamic republics of the West.

19:00  The Torah is the appetiser, the Koran the main course. 

20:00  Jews are the scapegoats of gentiles as God's Chosen People made to be a scapegoat of. Why then would they want to remain the eternal scapegoat of gentiles when they could become Muslim? Jewish pride. 



From 17:00 Rabbi Mizrachi saying Iran is better for Jewish parents to rear believing Jewish children than Israel

23:00  The Noahide laws

24:00  Why do Christians persist in their idolatry?

26:00  Cultural Christians are atheists. 

If it walks like a talk, sounds like a duck and looks like a duck, it is a duck. 

If it is an idol, is used as an idol and looks like idolatry, it is idolatry.

28:00  The Deadly Sin of Pride prevents Christians from acknowledging the idolatry of Christianity. 

29:00  Is God a dithering woman or a practical joker playing a practical joke on idolaters and blasphemers?

30:00  Sharia is objective morality.

Monday, 7 July 2025

Creating Secular Koranism 3.0 and Vincent Bruno #25


Discussion about Secular Koranism 3.0


1:25:00  Christian Amendment

1:33:00  Secular Koranism

1:34:00  The Founding Fathers would turn in their graves if Americans established a church or crowned a king.

1:36:00  George III

The diversity of Beyondism would be divisive in nations and empires

https://t.co/wrU6PqtAPq — Real Vincent Bruno (@RealVinBruno)  July 10, 2025 3:00  Secular Paganism  - a profound idea? https://secularpagani...