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This is going to a short bulletin, as I haven’t the time for a full article.
For some years now I have seen people who identify as “masculist” or “masculinist” online in a few locations. I have even seen a few of them pop up here in the comments, usually with something really stupid to say.
I can’t (and don’t want to) control whatever fucktardery that some people choose to engage. All I can do is clarify, and when needed assert AVFM editorial policy, and the philosophy that goes into it.
From my personal perspective, the following applies to masculists.
Masculinism is feminism’s mentally and morally challenged younger brother. It is an ideology, and most, (I know, I know NAMASCALT), demonstrate that with political polemics, phallo-centrism and other forms of general stupidity.
You have, as best I can know these days, never seen a “masculist” article on the pages of this site, or even mild endorsement for any of the people so identified.
And that is how we roll. The principles of inclusiveness, pragmatism, evidence based, non ideological solutions good — ideology, separatism, divisiveness, polemics, well, not so much.
That is all.
Is this both pompous and uninformative? I am inclined to think so.
Do you, like me, think Elam's powers of analysis are not the best, that he is not the brightest bulb in the box, and his mastery of abstract thought not the highest?
This video interview was just so cringe-worthy and awful I am at a loss for words. Didn't you find Paul Elam laughing at all her unfunny jokes nauseating? Swearing and saying "cunt" a lot talking about her mummy issues and her parents' broken marriage while giggling and being girly is so totally disgusting and weird, I just don't know where to begin. But Elam thought this fit for broadcast, probably because she is not unattractive as a woman. When men see a woman they fancy their brains and judgment fall out. Elam's certainly has when he saw fit to display this video.
Gene StevensI want to thank you all for going to Detroit.. I know Erin and Karen who's videos GWW that I watch... I don't know the other ladies.. but I thank you all. You renew my faith in a broken world.
Erin PizzeyClair that is a really ignorant remark. Men and women need to come together to solve the problem of generational family violence. AVFM have always worked with women. This is the best most energised conference I have ever attended.
Adam KeedwellThat and if there weren't any women we all know that this con would be labeled as a women's hating con, taking away rights and all that crap.
Hard to really argue that point when a good portion of the speakers are women.
Susan M. ChamberlainClaire... please reflect on your words above, and really think about the absurdity in your written delivery. Nothing speaks out more from those words except ignorance and asinine.
Richard FoleyHow do I get in contact with these ladies i need their presence for a conference in Australia this summer. I'm working with a federal senator on family law, domestic violence and gender bias the result of legislative amendments from the EMILY's List faction within the Australian Labor Party. I'm a huge fan of the work that Erin Prizzey has done her wisdom is incredible & her stories at times brings a tear to my eyes. I wish you all the best with your current work over there.
Philip W. CookHi to all of you! So glad Erin finally got to finally meet Teri, Karen, and Dianna! Wish I could have gone and renewed my acquaintance with you all. Glad you all had a good time.
Erin PizzeyThe words most people are using about this conference are: I felt I've come home, I am no longer alone, it feels like a family. This is the best most inspired conference I have ever been to. Men and women working side by side sharing a vision that together we can mend the broken places and together we can forge bonds that will take us through all the difficulties that face us.
Claire KhawI have my views about what to do, of course. I think you already know what I recommend: the repeal of all anti-discrimination employment legislation and the abolition of no fault divorce.
Did you discuss this at all?
If not, what you are your proposals for the future?
Claire KhawI asked a question both you and Erin Pizzey have obviously refused to answer, so yes, I have no trouble in acknowledging that I do want your attention. May I know why you think I may not have your "best interests at heart"?
Also, when you say "*our* best interests at heart", who do you mean?
Do you mean the interests of men? Or do you mean the interests of *women* in the MRM?
If one is being accused of something, it is only fair to hear what these accusations are, don't you think?
This is a rule of law established to protect the accused.
Teri C. StoddardClaire, you assume that I know your stance on things. I know nothing about you. Except that your first comment to my wall offended me, which is why I removed it, you know little about the men's movement, and you come across negatively. At this point, I doubt that you have the best interest of the movement at heart. I could be wrong, but my intuitions are usually right. Show me I'm wrong, or I'm done here.
Teri C. StoddardClaire, neither of those ideas are solutions I'm looking for. If you want to know what we want, watch the videos of the conference. You can even watch Carnell.
Steven DeLucaClaire Khaw - Teri gave you some good advice, watch some of the videos. Likely you won't because it's obvious you are more interested in bashing Teri. You can bash me now if you wish. I grew up with a twin sister, love her, love my daughter and wife, have always supported women: Teaching self-defense to women and girls, taking care of my son and later my daughter while my wife received her masters, worked with teen girls in Hawaii, abused for the most part. Lived with both genders in a group home for over two years. Helped a friend work on her book about rape... That's getting close to half. But despite that, when I simply share the propaganda that feminists who have PhD
Steven DeLucaExcuse me, forgot to share that I have a 100% disability from the army, military duty, hands not as steady as they should be. PhD's in victimhood. I have many feminist friends who are equity feminists. A best friend used to teach women's history but realized she had been brainwashed. Men are good Men protect women and children. Men have been bashed by feminist women in ways that leads to public, health and educational policies that are destroying relationships. So, go Teri, and I wouldn't waste time responding. She has a ways to go before she claims, as my friend that taught women's history, college level, "I am now a victim feminist in remission" Of men that parrot MSinformation from feminists, "They are philosophically castrated by the victim feminist movement." Women that only see Teri as you do are a dime a dozen. Women like Teri that expect equality, fairness, and the same care that MOST men and women give to women to also be extended to our sons and to men, women like Teri, unfortunately are rare, and priceless.
Teri C. StoddardThank you, Steven. I would like to think that intelligent people could watch the conference videos to learn the solutions. But, maybe you and I are too close to the situation. If solutions were omitted, we'll make sure they're included next year. One idea that I know was mentioned, was joining the groups that were represented, the ones who have shown a track record of success.
I believe my comment deleted by Teri Stodard was to the effect that there should be no women in the MRM. There should be antifeminist women, of course, but they should be segregated by sex. Otherwise, it creates a very bad impression.
Men in the MRM are already perceived as beta-omega losers. For these men to seek to speak only through the permission and encouragement of women is infantile and self-abnegating, like shy little boys needing mamma's encouragement to speak but in the meantime hiding under her skirts. If I were male, I would decline to join such an organisation knowing that doing so would lose me even more status. What real man wants to be associated with a bunch of freaks and losers and the women who want to mother them?
This is the image problem of the MRM, basically.
If men chose, they could take control again just through acting like men, but these beta-omega male losers only seek validation through the permission of their women, which is simply contemptible and embarrassing.
This video interview was just so cringe-worthy and awful I am at a loss for words. Didn't you find Paul Elam laughing at all her unfunny jokes nauseating? Swearing and saying cunt a lot while giggling and being girly is so totally disgusting and weird, I just don't know where to begin. But Elam thought this was fit for broadcast, probably because she is not unattractive as a woman. When men see a woman they fancy their brains fall out. Elam's certainly has.
When I became aware of the conference it did briefly cross my mind that I should attend. Indeed, I went so far as to enquire whether I could be one of their speakers. I did not even receive a response, either through administrative incompetence or perhaps it was the intention of the recipient to ignore me. It is probably their intention not to give me an official reason, so they do not have to explain themselves.
I am aware that Paul Elam is very anxious not to be seen as "traditionalist" and I know that Mike Buchanan once assumed that I was a religious fanatic and refused to accept my denials, but then he is a very angry, charmless little man who cannot see that masculine authority cannot return without men respecting marriage again, and society will not respect marriage again without laws that compel respect, or a religion that instills a belief in a God whose laws should be obeyed. They seem to think it is enough to whinge weakly weekly, while I think something much stronger is required.
As for MRM women, they enjoy the power of Affection Beneath, and don't want me telling them they shouldn't be there.
Affection Beneath. The underlying mechanism by which caretaking instincts are inspired is Affection Beneath; it is obviously inappropriate to seek to protect something or someone that is more powerful than you. Females seek to monopolize Affection Beneath. The immigrant's [or in this case the beta-omega male's] reduced status (accounting in part for his malleability), which many whites deny but which is plainly apparent to him, is allied to Affection Beneath. All the obstacles which females place in the path of their own males, and they are many, can appear to magically disappear in the case of an immigrant male because of AB.
Why, then, you will ask, did I ask to attend? I wished to do so only to convey a message, but it turns out I can do it more effectively without the cost and inconvenience of a trip to Detroit.
Compare the pussywhippedness of the beta-omega white Western male and the organisational and martial abilities with the Muslim male jihadist for the Caliphate and you will see why the MRM is a lost cause. I do not want to be one of these middle aged women whose capacious bosoms those pathetic men want to cry into. I actually find such men pitiful and disgusting and my maternal extincts are virtually non-existent. If such a thing is possible, I am a woman with paternal extincts and deplore the fact that someone such as I know how to be a man more than they do. What these women want to do is be seen as their protector in the way so many women enjoy having a helpless creature - especially a disabled child - in their care for a combination of attention-seeking and queue-jumping purposes. Protecting grown men must make them feel so important and special. These beta-omega males in the MRM clearly prefer a more feminine and feminised men's movement, and the public's knowledge of this will divest the movement of its virility and dignity. These men clearly don't care, because all they want is the kindness and pity of the women who wish to be kind and pity them the way a child or beggar laps up sympathy, while all I want to do is kick their collective ass, hard. http://www.channel4.com/news/syria-rebels-jihad-british-foreign-assad
Erin Pizzey and others must feel so threatened by what I am saying, and what I say is that the antifeminist movement should be segregated by sex. That is the reason why they cannot bring themselves to say why they find me so objectionable.
Once that happens, I wonder how many of these women will want to stay in it. The ones who can bring themselves to acknowledge that they only joined to get the adoration and attention of these pathetic loser beta-omega males will not want to be competing with other females in a female-only environment, will they?
The ones who stay after being deprived of male attention will know they are doing it for the right reasons. The ones who leave to find other sources of male attention will know also know why they did it too.
For the avoidance of doubt, I will say again here what I have said elsewhere and what I would have said at the men's rights conference in Detroit, had I been allowed to attend as a speaker:
To cut off both legs of feminism, I recommend the repeal of all anti-discrimination employment legislation and the abolition of no fault divorce.
