13:38
Claire Khaw
Christianity is kaput, therefore so is Catholicism.
13:59
Claire Khaw
Has Michael Voris been discussed?
14:07
Claire Khaw
Benedict Option - white flight.
16:56
Right Ruminations
@Claire Khaw I also know that their have been heretical popes in the past.
16:58
Claire Khaw
@Right Ruminations Were you not aware of that the Catholic Church lost the Wars of the Reformation? This was confirmed after the Spanish American War when WASPs became the next two global empires.
17:28
Right Ruminations
@Claire Khaw I never denied that.
17:41
Claire Khaw
@Right Ruminations The 21st century Christian is now a liberal who thinks he will go to heaven. The Church has now become a creature of the liberal state.
https://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.com/2018/10/why-christianity-is-kaput.html
18:59
Claire Khaw
@Right Ruminations Would you agree that a Christian Revival is impossible? There is now no political will to enforce the totalitarian Christianity of your ancestors.
20:05
Right Ruminations
@Claire Khaw The revival of Christendom is not in the immediate cards in the way the tradcons would like to see.
20:10
Claire Khaw
Roosh now has the beard of a celibate tramp denoting a loss of status. [I did speak to Roosh once before he was deplatformed on YouTube. https://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.com/2018/05/claire-khaw-and-roosh-on-jordan.html]
21:39
Right Ruminations
@Claire Khaw No, I have not.
22:33
Right Ruminations
@Claire Khaw Maybe around Christmas. Send me an email.
23:00
Claire Khaw
@Right Ruminations It is my belief that the Founding Fathers were in fact proto-Muslim. The First Amendment was in fact based on 2:256 of the Koran.
http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.com/2017/05/the-first-amendment-was-derived-from.html
23:23
Right Ruminations
@Claire Khaw Interesting.
24:04
Claire Khaw
@Right Ruminations How old are people your age?
24:43
Right Ruminations
@Claire Khaw No direct comment. Dissident Right age, perhaps.
30:57
Claire Khaw
@Right Ruminations I wonder what you think of E Michael Jones whom I have interviewed twice on my channel.
31:30
Right Ruminations
@Claire Khaw I am not particularly impressed by him.
33:32
Claire Khaw
@Right Ruminations Do you think the patriarchy should be restored?
33:52
Cotto-Gottfried
Indeed RR
33:53
Claire Khaw
I seem to remember something like this happening the last time.
34:19
Claire Khaw
Plenty of female rabbis in Reform Judaism.
35:40
Claire Khaw
Patriarchy is a society that prioritises the preferences of married parents, matriarchy one that prioritises the preferences of the unmarried mother who casually conceived and parented her illegitimate offspring.
35:44
Right Ruminations
@Right Ruminations Not really. I believe that patriarchy is an antecedent to feminism. Patriarchy + prosperity = feminism. I am with Paul Elam on that.
36:48
Claire Khaw
The West is now a matriarchy and social and political problems will get worse if this fact is not acknowledged. To restore the patriarchy, it must first be admitted that the West is a matriarchy.
37:59
Claire Khaw
@Right Ruminations I have been in touch with Paul Elam who absolutely refuses to discuss slut-shaming. Instead of worshipping God, Western Man worships the Immoral Woman.
If A Voice For Men in the US and Mike Buchanan in the UK can't fight feminism, they should stand aside for Claire Khaw
Marginalised beta males complaining about feminazi oppression
London Anti-Feminist Conference in July 2016
Beta male victims of feminism prefer to display their antisemitism and Islamophobia instead of discussing my solutions to feminism
White Sharia and the International Conference on Men's Issues in Gold Coast, Australia
Why won't these men complaining about feminism propose practical solutions?
38:28
Right Ruminations
@Re-instituting patriarchy won't prevent the things that led to feminism in the first place - material success happened.
41:08
Claire Khaw
@Right Ruminations Feminism operates through bribing men with fornication to distract them from the oppression of the matriarchy.
44:25
Claire Khaw
@Cotto-Gottfried A recent stream of mine discussed the US constitution and its assumption of a Creator who created man equal in a way that was alleged to be self-evident.
45:52
Claire Khaw
@Laramie Hirsch Who are the participants in this kulturkampf?
[The participants in the Current culture War raging across the West are between (1) those who wish to become married parents and want to parent their legitimate offspring properly and (2) those who wish to continue enjoying the pleasures of sexual liberation from the eternal and universal rules of marriage and good parenting.]
46:14
Claire Khaw
@Laramie Hirsch Ha, it is 0548 BST here.
46:33
Alex Lang
Laura Loomer wins Florida primary? wtf. Endorsed by Matt Gaetz? huh?
46:45
Laramie Hirsch
Just tuned in @Claire Khaw. Kulturkampf? Catch me up. What’re you talking about?
47:38
Claire Khaw
@Cotto-Gottfried It would be helpful to discuss the media and how it should be more under control by the government.
47:50
Laramie Hirsch
Participants of the TradCaths?
48:42
Claire Khaw
@Laramie Hirsch Nobody was talking about the Kulturkampf but this term should be familiar to a Catholic with some knowledge of the history of the Catholic Church in Germany.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_war
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kulturkampf
49:32
Right Ruminations
@Claire Khaw That's the Declaration of Independence. The Constitution says nothing about universal equality.
49:34
Laramie Hirsch
Organizations in play: SSPX, FSSP, diocesan Latin Mass priests...
50:21
Laramie Hirsch
Sedevacantists are outsiders, more a cult of personality...
50:29
Claire Khaw
@Right Ruminations The US dollar still says "In God We Trust" does it not?
51:30
Claire Khaw
@Laramie Hirsch The Catholic Church lost the Wars of the Reformation centuries ago. Then WASPs took over and now they are in decline. I do wish people would keep up!
52:03
Right Ruminations
@Claire Khaw How is that relevant to what the Constitution says about equality.
52:13
Laramie Hirsch
Good Catholic voices: Return to Tradition (TradPatrick), Charles Coulombe, Ann Barnhardt, The Remnant. Taylor Marshall is very influential.
52:29
Chlorox Bleach
trad cath over here!
53:04
Laramie Hirsch
@Claire Khaw The Church’s decline was foretold. It will surge back powerfully when all seems lost.
54:13
Laramie Hirsch
E. Michael Jones is a historically intelligent Catholic man, though he’s not a TradCath. He’s a Novus Ordo Catholic—-a NeoCath
54:52
Mark Erjavec
joseph thinks e. michael jones is a nutcase
54:59
Alex Lang
Anglicization & Hillsong-ification of Catholic churches in the northeast is weird aesthetically. Kind of distasteful. Lace curtain Irish phenomenon probably.
55:42
Laramie Hirsch
Tridentine Latin Mass communities are tripling, while Baby Boomer Novus Ordo parishes are withering. Our TradCath parishes are swelling. 1)
56:40
Laramie Hirsch
2) This upsurge in TradCaths terrify the effeminate Baby Boomer Novus Ordo priests/bishops/cardinals/Bergoglio.
57:20
Laramie Hirsch
3). Bishop Baron clutches his pearls with concern at the thought of the TradCaths.
58:00
Claire Khaw
@Right Ruminations Equality is a nebulous concept. The Declaration of Independence was really about rejecting the government of George III and the idea of a monarchy.
58:24
Right Ruminations
@Claire Khaw I agree.
59:15
Claire Khaw
@Laramie Hirsch I just don't see how you can get an overwhelmingly atheist populace to believe that Christ is also God, particularly when the political establishment is also atheist.
59:17
Laramie Hirsch
@Cotto-Gotfried traditional Catholics hold fast to Catholic tradition and the law of the Church pre-1968 in spite of corrupt clergy.
59:57
Claire Khaw
@Laramie Hirsch @Mark Erjavec E Michael Jones is a raving raging antisemite though.
1:00:09
Cotto-Gottfried
I shall just share my general opinion on the whole TradCath thing: RR is correct that there will not be some huge traditionalist revival in America which the TradCath folks shall benefit from. If ...
1:00:25
Claire Khaw
@Laramie Hirsch What about the actual number of Catholic confirmations?
1:00:45
Laramie Hirsch
@Claire Khaw That’s a whole other can of worms, to be saved for another conversation.
1:00:59
Cotto-Gottfried
... someone is TradCath because it works for you, great, but there is a sense of false triumphalism among many, if not most, TradCaths who seem to believe that they are on the precipice of ...
1:01:41
Cotto-Gottfried
... social, economic, and political power. The reality is quite different -- even within the Roman Catholic Church, Pope Francis's progressives are primed to control things for about a generation ...
1:02:00
Right Ruminations
@Cotto-Gottfried I think it might have a qualitative triumph in that it may become more available even if Catholicim in general continues to loose its influence on society.
1:02:13
Claire Khaw
Your laws should be in harmony with your moral system ie your religion. If your laws continue to veer away from the rules of your religion, you cannot claim success.
1:02:31
Laramie Hirsch
@Claire Khaw, the Church will shrink in number, retaining a strong core that will survive what is coming.
1:02:47
Cotto-Gottfried
... largely due to the appointments he has made. Insofar as the wider society goes, it is shifting away from theistic religiosity in most cases, so there will be no huge return to tradition for the ..
1:03:18
Alex Lang
A syncretic religon consisting of social Darwinism & British Israelism is clearly the future of American religious life. Golden plates optional.
1:03:41
Cotto-Gottfried
... masses. Still, if you like TradCath religion and find it worth your time and effort, that is no problem in my book. I just say that folks should have a realistic view of the RCC and Western ...
1:03:59
Cotto-Gottfried
... society before getting all triumphalist. That is all, folks!
1:04:15
Cotto-Gottfried
Agreed RR
1:04:39
Laramie Hirsch
Correct @Cotto-Gottfried. The Church(TM) is firmly in control of the buildings and the public face. This is mirroring the Arian Heresy. But that, too, was resolved.
1:05:30
Cotto-Gottfried
Gotcha Laramie. I think that what will eventually happen is an Episcopalian-style schism.
1:05:45
Laramie Hirsch
TradCaths are concerned about fortifying their communities and strongholds in spite of FrancisChurch.
1:06:36
Cotto-Gottfried
I have seen quite a bit of that, Laramie, but others seem to think that they are on the verge of not only taking over the RCC, but society at large. No idea where this comes from.
1:06:42
Claire Khaw
@Cotto-Gottfried There are 2 components to religion: 1) the narrative 2) the practice
1:06:55
Cotto-Gottfried
Claire is quite correct
1:06:59
Brando Calrissian
Would like to see Dutton on to discuss religion in the west.
1:07:30
Laramie Hirsch
I personally would like to see an authentic Catholic stand on the political scene and claim power. But I don’t know if anyone can/will do that. It’d at least give people an option to support him.
1:07:33
Claire Khaw
@Brando Calrissian Dutton seemed to be flirting with Islam the last time I listened to him.
White Nationalism + Islam = Secular Koranism?
1:08:10
Claire Khaw
@Laramie Hirsch Christianity was totalitarian when it was working.
1:08:53
Cotto-Gottfried
I say that Islam is likely to be the chief refuge of Western religious conservatives in about a century's time.
1:09:04
Cotto-Gottfried
I say this with no joy, obviously
1:10:43
Claire Khaw
@Cotto-Gottfried There will be inconvenience as matriarchy becomes patriarchy again, but I think we should shorten the period of chaos if we can.
1:10:59
Laramie Hirsch
@Claire Khaw And? It worked. Either way, we are going to have a strong man in our future. This democratic republic is nothing but a vacuum, which the Marxists are going to now fill.
1:12:09
Laramie Hirsch
I agree with @Cotto-Gottfried. Many people would rather give into Islam then to swear fealty to Catholic tradition. At least, here in America. It seems to be in our blood.
1:12:30
Claire Khaw
@Cotto-Gottfried There is no reason not to believe that good and order will triumph over evil and chaos because every now and then it does.
1:12:59
Chlorox Bleach
cotto-gottfried is cursed with Americanism
1:13:01
Laramie Hirsch
However, ultimately Catholicism will triumph. We most definitely are going to have a period of worldwide monarchies, and I think a lot of them will be Catholic.
1:13:18
Chlorox Bleach
Americanism is a heresy
1:13:18
Cotto-Gottfried
Agreed with Claire's last comment
1:13:20
Laramie Hirsch
I do not think that America has much of a future, because it is constantly rejecting Catholicism.
1:13:37
Alex Lang
If you're a political determinist, Islam looks very weak short- or long-term apart from maybe certain western European countries, medium-term, because demography.
1:13:59
Cotto-Gottfried
Agreed with Laramie's comment before Claire's last one
1:14:48
Claire Khaw
@Laramie Hirsch People generally find Islam so much easier to believe and it has sharia to restore and protect the patriarchy. Christianity is heavy on faith but does not change laws.
1:14:54
Cotto-Gottfried
Chlorox, this country -- I am glad to say -- was founded on Enlightenment values, all of which came out of the Protestant Reformation. If this country were RCC ruled, it would have become ...
1:15:32
Chlorox Bleach
yes and we reject those enlightenment values.
1:15:33
Cotto-Gottfried
... Revolutionary France or Mexico long ago. Whatever issues there are with Americanism, it is a damn sight better than the alternatives I just mentioned.
1:16:06
Laramie Hirsch
@Claire Khaw well, yes. If you are talking to people who are a blank slate. But Christianity is written in the hearts of Americans. They will not choose Islam as a whole. Islam is very ethnocentric.
1:16:08
Claire Khaw
@Laramie Hirsch Islam has the advantage of being 1) easy to believe 2) equipped to effect change in this life
1:16:28
Cotto-Gottfried
Claire is right in her last comment.
1:16:51
Claire Khaw
@Laramie Hirsch How is Islam ethnocentric? There is a verse that explicitly states that Arabs do not have a higher status to non-Arabs.
1:17:50
Laramie Hirsch
@Claire Khaw. Your question is another can of worms we don’t have time for in this live chat. I would like to explore that, though.
1:18:02
Claire Khaw
@Chlorox Bleach Freemasonry = the idea of the oneness of God
1:18:13
Cotto-Gottfried
Laramie, I think that the RCC will have a schism which produces two competing RCCs, with the most conservative one being popular in the Global South (Third World). How does this help the West?
1:18:35
Chlorox Bleach
I don't believe people will turn towards Islam, it is too Arabic for someone to follow
1:19:06
Claire Khaw
@Laramie Hirsch The matriarchy is a danger to itself, and the entire West is now a matriarchy. In a matriarchy, all men are lower in status to the unmarried mother. This will encourage your enemies.
1:19:08
Laramie Hirsch
Excellent question @Cotto-Gottfried. The west has no choice but to pass through a crucible. However, the conservative RCC will prevail, be strong, dependable, and rebuild.
1:19:24
Cotto-Gottfried
Islam is already spreading by leaps and bounds among generations-old RC families in Puerto Rico, Chlorox. This is a very real phenomenon. Look it up.
1:19:28
Laramie Hirsch
@Claire Khaw. A true Catholic state is not a matriarchy.
1:19:28
Chlorox Bleach
Claire that is polytheism
1:20:00
Laramie Hirsch
Matriarchy as a result of the enlightenment.
1:20:05
Claire Khaw
@Laramie Hirsch You want a strong man with an idea that might actually work who is not afraid of saying what is necessary and doing what he promises prepared to take risks.
1:20:09
Laramie Hirsch
*is
1:20:26
Cotto-Gottfried
Glad you like the question, Laramie! I think that there may be a strong traditionalist RC presence in the non-Latin American Third World, but in the end, the West shall take another path.
1:20:28
Laramie Hirsch
@Claire Khaw Sure. That would be fun.
1:20:33
Claire Khaw
@Chlorox Bleach Define Americanism.
1:21:23
Chlorox Bleach
Liberal ideology
1:21:24
Claire Khaw
@Alex Lang Islam is the most advanced model of monotheism. Rome did not have Islam to convert to, but we do not have the same excuse.
1:21:25
Laramie Hirsch
Well Cotto-Gottfried, I promise you 100%: Catholic monarchy is in Europe’s future. America? I am not so sure.
1:21:58
Cotto-Gottfried
From what I can tell, the Latin American Third World is following the path of Evangelicalism, Mormonism, and secularism (only in the whiter countries, though). Islam is also spreading big time.
1:22:11
Claire Khaw
@Chlorox Bleach What is polytheism?
1:22:20
Laramie Hirsch
This is probably obscure and an interesting to this audience, but some prophecies hint at America being destroyed completely.
1:22:34
Chlorox Bleach
Americanism. egalitarianism, and capitalism
1:23:09
Cotto-Gottfried
I cannot see Europe becoming totally RC monarchist, Laramie, but rather -- perhaps -- Muslim monarchist (not pleased with this, of course). America shall surely follow another path.
1:23:18
Laramie Hirsch
@Claire Khaw Correct. So what enabled matriarchy?
1:23:36
Claire Khaw
@Chlorox Bleach Putin declared liberalism "obsolete" in 2019.
Putin: Russian president says liberalism 'obsolete'
1:23:51
Cotto-Gottfried
Not saying that the path America will follow is a good one -- it probably is not -- but that is my perspective.
1:24:02
Chlorox Bleach
Americanism= everybody is equal. but we are ruled by powerful oligarchs
1:24:07
Laramie Hirsch
@Cotto-Gottfried, I disagree. There is a tremendous amount of pressure being put on Europeans right now. They are going to whip back like a rubber band, and it will be terrifying.
1:24:34
Claire Khaw
@Laramie Hirsch Something else will replace the religion and political system of America, which in any case needs replacing. Why mourn for something that is clearly failing and dysfunctional?
1:24:45
Laramie Hirsch
I think that Europe will have to suffer with their immigration troubles, and then be attacked in the start of a third world war before they become what I am talking about.
1:25:15
Cotto-Gottfried
Not so sure, Laramie. I think that most continental Europeans are being out-reproduced by new arrivals from Muslim lands who shall dominate the future. The UK is not so bad, but not great, either ...
1:25:43
Claire Khaw
@Chlorox Bleach America is failing because it is now a matriarchy. Let it acknowledge that is a matriarchy. Let a man first acknowledge he is sick or he will not seek a cure.
1:25:52
Laramie Hirsch
@Claire Khaw because, like Charles Coulombe, I love America the way a child loves his parents. Just because family is troubled doesn’t mean you disown it.
1:26:03
Cotto-Gottfried
... Ireland, meanwhile, will be majority non-Irish by 2040, per the Irish Government's open policy of population replacement via Project 2040.
1:26:09
Chlorox Bleach
yes that is correct
1:26:25
Chlorox Bleach
blame the feminist for that
1:26:25
Claire Khaw
@Laramie Hirsch You can't disown your country if you have nowhere else to go.
1:26:31
Laramie Hirsch
Correct Cotto-Gottfried. Native Europeans will be reduced, and they will become a hardened core. A diamond is created with tremendous pressure.
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