@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh How does one measure oppression?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @ntfem & I don't need anyone's assurance but my own. Every advanced society on earth is patriarchal.
— Colisha Harris (@sweet_coloosh) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @ntfem Only primitive societies are matriarchal. I don't need to prove that patriarchy works. It's apparent that it DOES.
— Colisha Harris (@sweet_coloosh) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh How do you measure oppression objectively and work out which sex suffers more oppression?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh Marriage is the pivot upon which gender balance lies. Feminism undeniably undermines marriage.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh Nowhere does the Koran say that "most inhabitants of hell are women".
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh Nowhere does the Koran tell women to "accept male agency over them".
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh Both men n women r "oppressed" by the need to produce the next generation n rear them in optimum conditions.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh Marriage is the rearing of the next generation in optimum conditions. Feminism undeniably undermines this.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh The Koran allows the husband the option of chastising his wife before proceeding to divorce.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh Nowhere does the Koran say that women are only half the value of men.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@sweet_coloosh @ntfem lol you might be OK with this authority, I see through it as man made pic.twitter.com/DD8D5r7C7N
— dreamweaver (@dreamweavermina) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh It is fair enough that someone who provides for you should have authority over you.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@sweet_coloosh @ntfem Allah thinks women are deficient&too soft in head to be the trusted to provide sole testimony? pic.twitter.com/f4el5hE2sc
— dreamweaver (@dreamweavermina) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh This verse only applies to the witnessing of loan agreements.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh This verse means that a husband should have sex with his wife or wives regularly.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh It would be more sensible to accept that we are all to a degree oppressed by laws that limit our liberty.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh Marriage is a contract of mutual enslavement.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh Which verse in the Koran "classes women in the same category as cattle and possessions of men"?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@ntfem @sweet_coloosh Quran clearly says "men are in charge of women" same thing. pic.twitter.com/1S3fFU7cII
— dreamweaver (@dreamweavermina) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh Men are in charge of women only if they provide for them.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh What is so "ridiculous" about supporting marriage?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh An employee is entitled to a verbal, written and final warning before his employment is terminated.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh That verse in the Koran you referred to ONLY APPLIES TO THE WITNESSING OF LOAN AGREEMENTS.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh What is so ridiculous about pointing out you have obviously misinterpreted that verse about loan agreements?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh It is obviously a metaphor which you are too limited in imagination to see.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh If someone pays the bills and supports you it is fair enough that they have authority over you.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh Loan agreements are very complicated documents you as you can see at http://t.co/PcRWXypRZt
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh It is perfectly possible for a slave to be happier than a freeman.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh Marriage is a contract of mutual enslavement = both parties are EQUALLY enslaved to each other
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh To support marriage means to affirm the principle of forbidding extramarital sex, and this is what I do.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh http://t.co/Zg1QpdGJ1p is my interpretation of that wife-beating verse in the Koran.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh http://t.co/Zg1QpdGJ1p demonstrates that loan agreements are anything but "simple" as you claim.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh I don't think this verse affects the position of women at all since it only applies to loan agreements.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh I don't see how you can deny that http://t.co/AEsfvBCnJ1 is a vow of mutual enslavement.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh Lots of non-Muslims beat their wives too. In Islam there is a procedure to be followed before the "beating".
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh Even if the Koran was written by a committee of men, it is still the best guide to humanity.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh Sometimes husbands are beaten by their wives too.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
.@ntfem @sweet_coloosh woweee. Heres an "acceptable" way of discipline your wife. Public beating with an audience pic.twitter.com/81TfG3KM1V
— dreamweaver (@dreamweavermina) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh Women do think, speak and behave differently to men.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh Confucius and the Ancient Greeks had certain views about women that you would no doubt describe as misogyny.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh Women are on the whole less reliable and more neurotic than men, I have found in my experience of life.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh I like to think that after so many warnings no sensible woman would find herself in the scenario described.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh These days in matriarchal Britain it is the husband and the husband alone who is enslaved.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh It is pretty easy to avoid punishment if you are sensible, especially if there is a system of warnings.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh A wife who thinks her husband is chastising her unjustly would have an audience to appeal to.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh As I have said, this rule only applies to loan agreements.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh If you are talking about the credibility of female witnesses, it would be a matter for the jury.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh The wife is entitled to have more formal warnings than a husband before he is entitled to a divorce.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh It is better to admit that such things happen and regulate it than pretend it doesn't and not regulate it.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh The point of a patriarchy (rule by the married) is it prevents and replaces a matriarchy (rule by sluts).
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh Men need to be protected from sluts, and that is the purpose of the Abrahamic faiths.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh Unlike you, I don't think the institution of marriage is "crap".
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh I believe in both capital and corporal punishment administered publicly.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh The assembled audience at the time of supposed chastisement will allow her to give her side of the story.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh Corporal punishment is the only language some people can understand, if they cannot be moved by reason.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh Husbands and wives often get very irritated by each other and can lose their sense of proportion.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh That verse has no practical application now in the age of the photocopier and universal literacy.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh The husband could just give her a slap on the wrist, witnessed by the audience and then proceed to divorce.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina @sweet_coloosh Point of the wife-beating verse is to prevent divorce and have a system of warnings for recalcitrant wives.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
Some of the staunchest supporters of wife beating I have ever met are women. What a tragic state of affairs.
— dreamweaver (@dreamweavermina) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina If one supports capital and corporal punishment then there is no reason why women should not similarly be subject to this.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
Divorce is far better than staying with a man that hits you. In private or in front of an audience. Crazy it needs to be said @ntfem
— dreamweaver (@dreamweavermina) February 2, 2015
@dreamweavermina Then one must take care to choose a non-violent husband.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 2, 2015
http://thebattlefieldoflove.blogspot.co.uk/2010/06/my-interpretation-of-that-wife-beating.html
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