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Saturday, 27 July 2019

Church of Entropy's exposition of Claire Khaw's allegedly False Axioms and allegedly Poor Logic



https://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.com/2019/07/transcript-of-stream-deleted-by-church.html is a transcript of the stream Church of Entropy has decided to make unavailable to us.

16:00 Unspecified axioms
21:00  A statement or an argument can be based on a conclusion from a syllogism.
24:00  My axioms are Truth, Logic and Morality.
26:00  Logical arguments
28:00  Contraposition
30:00  Subjective Relativism = Moral Relativity?
34:00  We begin to apply the principles of valid and sound arguments to Jen's proposition that God is impersonal.
37:00  Rules are made to be broken.
38:00  Jen is confusing the laws of physics with the law of the land.
43:00  archetype cannons and inductive reasoning
47:00  "lower, degenerate, disgusting" I am terrible person, according to Jen.
48:00  Secular Koranism
50:00  A logical argument
52:00  Belief and knowledge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knowledge_(legal_construct)
55:00  Perfect, all-powerful Abrahamic God
56:00  The Abrahamic God is omniscient and is therefore all-knowing
57:00  God cannot break His own laws.
59:00  Jen says the Universe is equal to God.
1:03:00  I have a different definition of the same word ie God.
1:06:00  Jen believes that the Universe is uncreated.
1:10:00  The Periodic Table is not eternal because there was a time before the Periodic Table was discovered. Jen makes a category error.
1:14:00  Everything is a space time event.
1:15:00  Jen denies the Big Bang.
1:23:00  Pattern recognition https://www.mnn.com/lifestyle/arts-culture/stories/why-your-brain-can-read-jumbled-letters
1:25:00  Contradicting herself, Jen talks about God's "personality", having denied that He is personal.
1:26:00  Jen talks about an "impersonal personality".
1:30:00  What Jen thinks of Freud
1:30:30  Meditation
1:32:00  Not all people who meditate believe in an impersonal God. In fact, if they believe in God at all, most people and therefore most people who meditate believe in a personal God.
1:33:00  Jen talks about yoga teachers who are "whores in spandex".  https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/621598/cultural-appropriation-yoga-Jennifer-Scharf-University-Ottawa
1:37:00  Enlightenment, meditation, perfect consciousness, wisdom, cessation of suffering
1:39:00  Hindus believe in a personal God. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_god#Hinduism
1:41:00  Wisdom
1:45:00  Supremacist, imperialism
1:50:00  Global acceptance of Jen's ideas
1:51:00  Jen accuses me of preying on innocents but cannot say who they are.
1:53:00  Ego
1:54:00  The personal God is more powerful than an impersonal God.
1:56:00  Anecdotes and generalisations
1:57:00  Apparently, my knowledge is a subset of Jen's knowledge.
1:59:00  The usefulness of our respective ideas
2:02:00  Moon landing
2:04:00  Jen finds Con Opps and me "disgusting".
2:04:30  How is scientific achievement measured
2:05:00  The Periodic Table was discovered by a Russian.
2:07:00  Jen says Mendeleev stole from India.
2:08:00  Jen accuses me of hating Indians.
2:09:00  I list the flaws of Jen's arguments and her contradiction.
2:10:00  Only persons can have a personality.
2:11:00  Rome gave Europe the Rule of Law.
2:13:00  The Internet is Western.
2:14:00  Jen refers to her scientific achievements.
2:15:00  Indian scientific achievements
2:16:00  Jen's model predicts star formation and nuclear reactivity
2:17:00  Jen refers to her yogic powers.
2:19:00  "Computers are based on Vedic maths."
2:21:00  Vedanta https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vedanta
2:23:00  What Jen and E Michael Jones have in common.
2:24:00  Jews are the most ancient and powerful God. The pantheist Spinoza was a Jew.
2:25:00  The Abrahamic God is the greatest intellectual achievement.
2:26:00  The Abrahamic faiths, Christians and Muslim empires
2:27:00  Patriarchy
2:28:00  The wisdom of the Chinese and Jews
2:29:00  The rule of law is necessary to acquire empire.
2:30:00  Wise rulers, wise laws, wise nations, wise civilisations.
2:31:00  The Bible and the Koran acknowledge and encourage the existence of nations.
2:32:00  The Ten Commandments, the Noahide laws
2:33:00  Theocracy
2:34:00  Tribes and race, Jews and China
2:35:00  Jen won't say how long Indian civilisation has existed for.
2:26:00  We all came from Africa.
2:37:00  Patriarchy
2:38:00  Wisdom
2:39:00  The Ten Commandments
2:41:00  Your choice in how you include and organise information can display wisdom.
2:41:30  Are the Chinese wiser than the Indians?
2:42:00  Wise leaders and wise laws
2:43:00  Building on the knowledge and wisdom of the past
2:44:00  It would be wise to restore the patriarchy using Secular Koranism because Christianity has failed.
2:45:00  The Socratic method
2:47:00  Tribe, nation and empire
2:48:00  I offer to continue with Jen's rebuttal but this is declined.
2:56:00  Jen denies the existence of any civilisation other than India. Cities represent civilisations
2:59:00  The abolition of usury
3:00:00  Jen refuses an appointment


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