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Wednesday, 31 July 2024

What terrorism did Anjem Choudary incite?


What act of terrorism had Choudary incited?
1:00  Inchoate offence
2:00  Attempt
5:00  The Douglas Murray and Anjem Choudary debate that never happened
6:00  Choudary the comedian
7:00  Choudary the solicitor
8:00  The law changed.
9:00  Donald Trump
10:00  6 January 2021
13:00  How Anjem Choudary was convicted of directing terrorist organisation
14:00  s 41 of the Terrorism Act 2006
17:00  Alison Chabloz was not denying the Holocaust.
19:00  Anjem Choudary jailed for life.

"Choudary was careful not to personally advocate violence "

22:00  Sharia councils
23:00  What Choudary did wrong
25:00  References to violence at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3geqp8vx08o
27:00  Organisational skills and oratory
29:00  Sharia for UK
Douglas Murray

32:00  JAY joins.
33:00  Legal background

36:00  "You could say AC just has more charisma and influence than CK and [the court believed] people kill for him without him directly telling them to."

40:00  Anjem Choudary did encourage people to join ISIS.
41:00  Is there a difference between war and terrorism?
42:00  Specifying the charges
43:00  There was a social connection between the killers of Rigby and Choudary.
47:00  Choudary encouraged people to join ISIS until it was proscribed.
49:00  The court said he did not "personally incite violence".
50:00  Is Anjem Choudary a danger to society?
51:00  Liberal society is threatened by Choudary and his ideas.
55:00  ISIS
56:00  There was a time when ISIS was not proscribed. 
59:00  "Directing terrorism"
1:03:00  What was the act of terrorism Choudary incited and how could he have been said to be directing it?
1:04:00  Is giving online lectures on Islamic theology "directing terrorism"?
1:05:00  The liberal order is afraid of Choudary, Trump and Dugin.
1:06:00  Minority Report

1:08:00  SJJ joins.
1:09:00  Sentencing remarks
1:13:00  Terrorising your enemies
1:14:00  Proscribed organisation
1:15:00  Terrorist crimes of making speeches and distributing leaflets! 
1:17:00  "You are my inspiration!"
1:19:00  Swearing allegiance is not a terrorist act.
1:21:00  Was there any evidence that Choudary was in contact with the Manchester Arena bombing or the London Bridge terrorists?
1:26:00  Southport
1:27:00  I don't like Mondays by Boomtown Rats
1:28:00  Will Muslims be banned from Speakers Corner?
1:30:00  Does our government care about addressing our grievances?
1:31:00  Douglas Murray can't win an argument against Anjem Choudary.
1:34:00  Julian Assange
1:39:00  What acts of terrorism?
1:42:00  19 year old Bengali youth
1:43:00  You can marry at 16.
1:47:00  Who is the government telling us whom we can or cannot hate?
1:48:00  Sentenced for holding certain views.
1:49:00  Who is the extremist?
1:50:00  Sentenced for talking to people
1:51:00  Commentary on Choudary and  his unworldly associates


WHAT ANJEM CHOUDARY WAS REALLY BEING PUNISHED FOR

"You have no doubt as to the rectitude of your views. Your views are entrenched and abhorrent to most right-thinking people. It was chilling to hear as part of the evidence at trial your denial of the holocaust, and your joking about the 9/11 attacks which remarks I am sure were designed to signify approval for what happened that day in New York. I do not sentence you for holding those views but the fact that you genuinely hold such extreme views coupled with your history of unlawful behaviour is an indication of the danger you pose into the future. I am sure that you will continue to preach your message of hate and division when or if you are given the opportunity to do so in the future. You are not someone who can be diverted from that course by any form of intervention. You pose a significant risk of causing serious harm to members of the public into the future by committing further specified offences such as this."

Who are these right-thinking people? Must they all be liberal? What are the principles of liberalism? 

Punished for having no doubt as to the rectitude of his views and refusing to be diverted from this view by any form of intervention

"The danger you pose is in your organisational skills and your skills as an orator rather than as a man who uses violence personally. I cannot foresee a time when you will cease to be dangerous in that way."

Punished for being an orator with organisational skills

"It reflects the fact that you, Anjem Choudary, were front and centre in running a terrorist organisation but cannot be shown to have planned any particular act of terrorism."

Punished for just being accused of "directing terrorism" even though no act of terrorism has been linked to his group

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