3:00 Moral and political decisions
4:00 Free speech
6:00 Respect for principled and consistent people
7:00 E Michael Jones is 77.
9:00 Credentials
10:00 EMJ uses Jews as a stick to beat Protestants.
11:00 Simon Sheppard
12:00 Nick Fuentes
Boomers
13:00 Gay rights is blamed on Jews.
14:00 Gerontophobia
15:00 Nick Fuentes was a university dropout.
16:00 E Michael Jones equated with boiled food.
17:00 Nick Fuentes is declared "spicier".
Dirty Harry in 1971
18:00 Is Vincent Bruno gerontophobic?
19:00 What brand of menswear does Vincent want E Michael Jones to wear?
20:00 Keeping up with the times
21:00 The First Zulu
24:00 Christian Nationalism is updated White Nationalism.
25:00 To talk or not to talk about race?
26:00 Fighting talk
27:00 MAGA is dying?
28:00 A "quaint country"
29:00 A slow steady economy
30:00 Banning usury
34:00 Simple interest
42:00 Vincent doesn't want Islam to ban anything.
43:00 Vincent expresses more gerontophobia.
44:00 Trump's communication skills
52:00 Race cannot be your religion.
53:00 Jews, Christians and Islam are not supposed to be racist.
54:00 Why Trump is being so gung-ho about ICE
58:00 Khalid Safir and his wives
1:00:00 We take on the narrative package of the moral system we follow.
1:02:00 Usury
1:03:00 Assisted suicide
1:04:00 Research and development
1:06:00 China
1:08:00 E Michael Jones
1:10:00 Slavery
1:12:00 You can't be a Catholic Nationalist.
1:13:00 The Pope submits to the liberal order.
1:14:00 A Catholic way of coming out as a gay man is to say you are about to join a Catholic seminary.
1:15:00 The new religion of the West can only be Islam.
1:16:00 Patriarchy v Matriarchy
Artificial wombs
1:17:00 Christian Nationalist v Christian Nationalist
1:19:00 Sharia
Nick Fuentes has more followers on X (formerly Twitter) than E. Michael Jones. Here's a quick comparison based on their official accounts:
Nick Fuentes has approximately 9.5 times more followers. These figures are current as of December 9, 2025.
Nick Fuentes' significantly larger following on X—over 1.1 million compared to E. Michael Jones' roughly 124,000—stems from a combination of demographic appeal, strategic online activism, and recent platforming boosts that have amplified his visibility in far-right circles. Jones, while influential in niche Catholic traditionalist and antisemitic intellectual spaces through his books, magazine (*Culture Wars*), and occasional podcasts, operates more as a scholarly provocateur with limited mainstream crossover. His social media presence has historically faced restrictions and attacks, keeping his audience smaller and more fragmented. In contrast, Fuentes has built a youthful, rabidly loyal "Groyper" movement that thrives on digital insurgency. Below, I'll break down the key reasons for this disparity. ### 1. **Demographic and Stylistic Appeal: Youth vs. Intellectualism** - Fuentes, at 27, targets disaffected young men (primarily Gen Z and millennials) with high-energy livestreams on *America First*, meme-heavy content, and unfiltered rants blending white nationalism, Christian identitarianism, and anti-establishment fervor. His style—charismatic, quotable, and "based" (in far-right slang)—resonates like a streamer or podcaster, drawing comparisons to a more eloquent Alex Jones. Clips of him go viral on TikTok, Instagram, and X, flooding feeds with humorous or provocative soundbites that hook younger users. This has led to explosive growth: His X followers surged 600% since reinstatement, hitting over 1 million by late 2025.
- Jones (77) appeals to an older, more academic audience interested in dense critiques of "Jewish influence" on culture, liberalism, and history (e.g., books like *The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit*). His content is essayistic and lecture-based, lacking the viral, youth-oriented punch. While he shares thematic overlaps (antisemitism framed as Catholic critique), his delivery feels like a seminary talk, not a rally cry, limiting broad appeal. ### 2. **Online Activism and Community Building**
- Fuentes pioneered the "Groyper Wars" in 2019, where his followers trolled mainstream conservative events (e.g., Turning Point USA) to push harder-right views on immigration and Israel, creating a sense of insurgency and belonging. This built a cult-like network of "Groypers" who amplify his content organically (or semi-coordinatedly), driving engagement that outpaces even Elon Musk's posts in early retweets. His independent operation—no GOP backing—positions him as an authentic rebel, fueling loyalty among those feeling "forgotten" by elites.
- Jones lacks this mobilized fanbase. His influence is more passive: Readers engage via his website or books, but there's no equivalent to Groypers storming events or meme armies. His X activity is sporadic, focusing on links to articles rather than daily battles, and past deplatforming (e.g., YouTube restrictions) has stifled growth. ### 3. **Platform Reinstatement and Media Amplification**
- Elon Musk's 2024 reinstatement on X was a game-changer, allowing Fuentes to consolidate his audience on one platform while streaming on Rumble (500,000+ viewers). High-profile spots—like Tucker Carlson's sympathetic October 2025 interview and appearances on Alex Jones' *Infowars* and Steven Crowder's show—ignited feuds among conservatives, spiking mentions threefold and drawing pro-Trump eyeballs. The September 2025 assassination of rival Charlie Kirk further boosted him: Followers grew by 175,000 on X alone, as he positioned himself as Kirk's uncensored heir.
- Jones has no such rocket fuel. His X account (verified, unlike Fuentes') grows steadily but slowly, hampered by sporadic censorship and a focus on print/digital publishing over viral media. Mainstream coverage treats him as a fringe theorist, not a movement leader, reducing algorithmic push. ### 4. **The "Streisand Effect" and Controversy as Currency**
- Bans from YouTube, Spotify, and others backfired, martyring Fuentes and making his return a rallying cry. Attempts to "cancel" him (e.g., post-Kirk outrage) only normalize him, as conservatives like Ben Shapiro defend free speech by opposing deplatforming. This cycle—outrage, amplification, growth—has made him a far-right "existential crisis" figure. - Jones faces similar smears but without the backlash boost; his controversies (e.g., Holocaust revisionism) alienate even potential allies, keeping him siloed. | Factor | Nick Fuentes | E. Michael Jones | |-------------------------|---------------------------------------|--------------------------------------| | **Core Audience** | Young men (18-35), Groypers | Older Catholics, intellectuals | | **Content Style** | Livestreams, memes, debates | Books, essays, lectures | | **Growth Catalysts** | X reinstatement, Carlson interview, Kirk's death | Steady publishing, but censored | | **Engagement Tactics** | Coordinated amplification, viral clips | Links to articles, niche discussions | | **2025 Follower Gain** | +175,000 post-Kirk; total 1.1M | Minimal; stable at ~124K | In short, Fuentes embodies the chaotic, audience-driven far-right of the social media era, while Jones represents a pre-digital, bookish conservatism. If trends hold, Fuentes' lead will widen unless broader deplatforming or internal feuds intervene. This isn't just numbers—it's a symptom of how online radicalization favors spectacle over substance.
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User | Handle | Followers |
|---|---|---|
Nick Fuentes | @NickJFuentes | 1,181,153 |
E. Michael Jones | @EMichaelJones1 | 123,813 |
Nick Fuentes has approximately 9.5 times more followers. These figures are current as of December 9, 2025.
Nick Fuentes' significantly larger following on X—over 1.1 million compared to E. Michael Jones' roughly 124,000—stems from a combination of demographic appeal, strategic online activism, and recent platforming boosts that have amplified his visibility in far-right circles. Jones, while influential in niche Catholic traditionalist and antisemitic intellectual spaces through his books, magazine (*Culture Wars*), and occasional podcasts, operates more as a scholarly provocateur with limited mainstream crossover. His social media presence has historically faced restrictions and attacks, keeping his audience smaller and more fragmented. In contrast, Fuentes has built a youthful, rabidly loyal "Groyper" movement that thrives on digital insurgency. Below, I'll break down the key reasons for this disparity. ### 1. **Demographic and Stylistic Appeal: Youth vs. Intellectualism** - Fuentes, at 27, targets disaffected young men (primarily Gen Z and millennials) with high-energy livestreams on *America First*, meme-heavy content, and unfiltered rants blending white nationalism, Christian identitarianism, and anti-establishment fervor. His style—charismatic, quotable, and "based" (in far-right slang)—resonates like a streamer or podcaster, drawing comparisons to a more eloquent Alex Jones. Clips of him go viral on TikTok, Instagram, and X, flooding feeds with humorous or provocative soundbites that hook younger users. This has led to explosive growth: His X followers surged 600% since reinstatement, hitting over 1 million by late 2025.
- Jones (77) appeals to an older, more academic audience interested in dense critiques of "Jewish influence" on culture, liberalism, and history (e.g., books like *The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit*). His content is essayistic and lecture-based, lacking the viral, youth-oriented punch. While he shares thematic overlaps (antisemitism framed as Catholic critique), his delivery feels like a seminary talk, not a rally cry, limiting broad appeal. ### 2. **Online Activism and Community Building**
- Fuentes pioneered the "Groyper Wars" in 2019, where his followers trolled mainstream conservative events (e.g., Turning Point USA) to push harder-right views on immigration and Israel, creating a sense of insurgency and belonging. This built a cult-like network of "Groypers" who amplify his content organically (or semi-coordinatedly), driving engagement that outpaces even Elon Musk's posts in early retweets. His independent operation—no GOP backing—positions him as an authentic rebel, fueling loyalty among those feeling "forgotten" by elites.
- Jones lacks this mobilized fanbase. His influence is more passive: Readers engage via his website or books, but there's no equivalent to Groypers storming events or meme armies. His X activity is sporadic, focusing on links to articles rather than daily battles, and past deplatforming (e.g., YouTube restrictions) has stifled growth. ### 3. **Platform Reinstatement and Media Amplification**
- Elon Musk's 2024 reinstatement on X was a game-changer, allowing Fuentes to consolidate his audience on one platform while streaming on Rumble (500,000+ viewers). High-profile spots—like Tucker Carlson's sympathetic October 2025 interview and appearances on Alex Jones' *Infowars* and Steven Crowder's show—ignited feuds among conservatives, spiking mentions threefold and drawing pro-Trump eyeballs. The September 2025 assassination of rival Charlie Kirk further boosted him: Followers grew by 175,000 on X alone, as he positioned himself as Kirk's uncensored heir.
- Jones has no such rocket fuel. His X account (verified, unlike Fuentes') grows steadily but slowly, hampered by sporadic censorship and a focus on print/digital publishing over viral media. Mainstream coverage treats him as a fringe theorist, not a movement leader, reducing algorithmic push. ### 4. **The "Streisand Effect" and Controversy as Currency**
- Bans from YouTube, Spotify, and others backfired, martyring Fuentes and making his return a rallying cry. Attempts to "cancel" him (e.g., post-Kirk outrage) only normalize him, as conservatives like Ben Shapiro defend free speech by opposing deplatforming. This cycle—outrage, amplification, growth—has made him a far-right "existential crisis" figure. - Jones faces similar smears but without the backlash boost; his controversies (e.g., Holocaust revisionism) alienate even potential allies, keeping him siloed. | Factor | Nick Fuentes | E. Michael Jones | |-------------------------|---------------------------------------|--------------------------------------| | **Core Audience** | Young men (18-35), Groypers | Older Catholics, intellectuals | | **Content Style** | Livestreams, memes, debates | Books, essays, lectures | | **Growth Catalysts** | X reinstatement, Carlson interview, Kirk's death | Steady publishing, but censored | | **Engagement Tactics** | Coordinated amplification, viral clips | Links to articles, niche discussions | | **2025 Follower Gain** | +175,000 post-Kirk; total 1.1M | Minimal; stable at ~124K | In short, Fuentes embodies the chaotic, audience-driven far-right of the social media era, while Jones represents a pre-digital, bookish conservatism. If trends hold, Fuentes' lead will widen unless broader deplatforming or internal feuds intervene. This isn't just numbers—it's a symptom of how online radicalization favors spectacle over substance.
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E. Michael Jones and Nick Fuentes share a great deal ideologically—both are staunch Catholics, fierce critics of Judaism and Jewish influence, opponents of liberalism, Zionism, homosexuality, feminism, and immigration—but they have had public disagreements and mutual criticisms on several key points. Here are the main areas where they diverge or have clashed:
Summary Quote from Each Side
1:38:00 Tucker Carlson has a responsibility to platform E Michael Jones.
Issue | E. Michael Jones’s Position | Nick Fuentes’s Position | Resulting Tension / Criticism |
|---|---|---|---|
Race and Racism | Rejects racial categories as a modern, revolutionary (Jewish-promoted) fiction. Insists the only valid identity is Catholic vs. non-Catholic. Has repeatedly called racism a heresy and said “there is no white race—only the baptized and the unbaptized.” | Strongly emphasizes white/European identity as a real, positive, and politically necessary category. Openly identifies as a “white advocate” and uses rhetoric like “white genocide,” “white replacement,” and “white boy summer.” | Jones has publicly called Fuentes a racist and said his movement is “doomed” because it is built on the heresy of biological racism rather than Catholicism. |
Theological Primacy | Everything must be subordinated to Catholic theology and Logos. Politics and ethnicity are secondary. Has said “Catholicism is the solution, not white identity.” | Catholicism is central, but white identity and ethnonationalism are inseparable from authentic Christianity in the current historical context. Often says “Christ is King, and that makes the white man.” | Jones accuses Fuentes of subordinating the Faith to race; Fuentes and Groypers mock Jones as a boomer universalist who doesn’t understand the racial realities of 21st-century America. |
Holocaust and WWII History | Takes a classic Catholic-revisionist line: questions gas-chamber narrative, blames war on Jewish declaration of war on Germany in 1933, defends Germany’s actions as defensive, but frames it almost entirely in religious (Logos vs. revolutionary Jewry) rather than racial terms. | Broadly agrees with revisionism but is much more explicit and meme-driven (“the Holocaust is fake and gay,” 6 million jokes, etc.). Frames WWII as a tragic “brother war” among whites manipulated by Jews, with occasional sympathy for certain aspects of National Socialism. | Jones has distanced himself from Fuentes’s flippant style and overt Hitler/Nazi references, calling them “fedposting” and counter-productive. |
Strategy and Tone | Prefers long-form lectures, books, and intellectual discourse. Rejects irony, memes, and “edgy” humor as Jewish subversion tactics. | Relies heavily on irony, memes, trolling, and deliberately provocative language to recruit young men. | Jones calls this “clown world” behavior that discredits the cause. |
Attitude toward Protestantism and Orthodoxy | Extremely hostile to Protestantism (calls it a Jewish revolution); somewhat more open to Orthodox (but still sees Rome as the only solution). | Much more ecumenical toward traditionalist Protestants and Orthodox when it serves anti-Jewish or anti-liberal coalition-building. | Minor but repeated point of friction in interviews. |
Personal Relationship | 2021–2022: Jones appeared on Fuentes’s show multiple times and they were relatively friendly. 2023–2025: Public break. Jones now regularly denounces Fuentes as a racist heretic; Fuentes and Groypers call Jones a “midwit,” “grifter,” or “Judeo-Catholic.” | Same timeline, but Fuentes now mocks Jones’s age, appearance, and universalism. | Complete rupture; they no longer speak and actively criticize each other. |
- Jones on Fuentes (2024 Culture Wars article & interviews):
“Nick Fuentes has substituted race for the Faith. He is leading young men into a racial cul-de-sac that ends in despair and violence. Racism is a heresy, and his movement will either repent or die.” - Fuentes on Jones (Cozy.tv streams, 2024–2025):
“EMJ is a boomer who thinks we can just write another 1,200-page book and the Jews will go away. He lives in a fantasy world where Catholics aren’t 1% of Zoomers. We need power, not another lecture about Logos.”
1:38:00 Tucker Carlson has a responsibility to platform E Michael Jones.
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