12:17 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
What Christians don't seem to accept is that the Abrahamic God if He exists is ABSOLUTELY LOGICAL AND MORAL.
12:18 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
OOT, can you explain the logic of the Abrahamic God in the story of Abraham and Isaac?
12:19 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
If you are shopping around for a religion, it would be illogical to worship anything less powerful than the Abrahamic God.
12:21 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@stefaniecristos8514 A rabbi I spoke to said the story of Abraham and Isaac was God making the point that human sacrifice and in particular son-sacrifice was forbidden. Christians still don't get it.
12:21 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@stefaniecristos8514 Thank you very much for your question!
12:23 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Yes, Christians are made to feel riddled by guilt the whole time keeping them from exercising their moral reasoning and solving problems with facts, logic and theology!
12:23 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
Yes, I think that too, but was it a logical way to make that point?
12:24 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
We must focus on the Big Picture and see things through God's "eyes". Sorry about the anthropomorphism!
12:24 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
Was it logical for God to create humans? Give us free will?
12:24 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
Seems like the most illogical thing in the world to me lol
12:25 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@stefaniecristos8514 If it works, then it is logical. Nobody has a better explanation. The Abrahamic God is meant to be a compassionate God, one you can reason with!
12:26 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@stefaniecristos8514 Perhaps you remember the story of Abraham negotiating with God to spare the Sodomites.
12:27 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@stefaniecristos8514 God was clearly prepared to negotiate.
12:29 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@TinyTimtom Sodom and Gomorrah remain in Israel. @YoavBressler confirmed that Lot's wife can be found in Israel.
12:30 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@TinyTimtom The stories are useful for moral reasoning.
12:30 PM
@YoavBressler
Actually these cities may fall on the Jordanian side of the current border.
12:31 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@YoavBressler Sodom and Gomorrah have moved to Tel Aviv with its gay parades.
12:34 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
Actually, there is an annual gay parade in Jerusalem too since 2002.
12:35 PM
@TinyTimtom
once your wife and children know the truth, cant hide your crimes any longer
12:40 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
My comment containing information about violent incidents at gay parades in Jerusalem cut and pasted from Wikipedia has been deleted.
12:40 PM
@williambranch4283
In stories, we can make absurdities, which is why atheists hate religion as story telling
12:41 PM
@williambranch4283
But Naturei Karta are legalistic extremists like you, Claire ;-)
12:41 PM
@YoavBressler
Wikipedia has been deleted?
12:42 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@YoavBressler No, my comment cut and pasted from Jerusalem gay parade Wikipedia entry has been deleted.
12:42 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@williambranch4283 How am I an extremist?
12:43 PM
@williambranch4283
Monomaniac. Everything is White vs Black
12:43 PM
@LoricaSancta
I thibk Okson, that Athesists maybe enjoy stories with limitations
12:44 PM
@OOOTLAM
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@williambranch4283 I am a political activist, so you would expect me to behave like a political activist.
12:44 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@williambranch4283 What is so monomaniacal about behaving like a political activist?
12:44 PM
@williambranch4283
I don't trust poitical activists ... both my women are political activists too ;-))
12:45 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@williambranch4283 You don't believe in good and evil or right and wrong, do you? That's because you're an atheist and nihilist.
12:45 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@williambranch4283 Just because you don't want to do something doesn't mean it is wrong.
12:46 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@williambranch4283 Why do you think all political activism is wrong? Weren't the Founding Fathers political activists?
12:46 PM
@williambranch4283
Everything I disagree with is wrong ... said by every political activist ever
12:46 PM
@williambranch4283
Yes, America's Founders were damned
12:46 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@williambranch4283 What have I said that is untrue or illogical? If the answer is nothing, then I must be right, mustn't I?
12:46 PM
@LoricaSancta
was Telemachus a political activist
12:47 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@williambranch4283 How would you know the Founding Fathers were damned?
12:47 PM
@williambranch4283
Telemachus hated house guests
12:47 PM
@williambranch4283
Damned by me
12:47 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@williambranch4283 Why?
12:48 PM
@williambranch4283
Being contrary in time for national celebration ... most non-Americans want the US deleted
12:48 PM
@TinyTimtom
come on WB, we know TLCers dont read Homer lol
12:48 PM
@williambranch4283
I read Homer before he was Simpson ;-)
12:48 PM
@LoricaSancta
he traveleld widely to build support , made promises, but was a servant of his own oikos. he changed Ithacan history...but wouldnt have been an activist.
12:48 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#2
@tiny no we LOVE the Simpsons
12:49 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@williambranch4283 I think America should fulfil its manifest destiny.
12:49 PM
@williambranch4283
To kill Islam?
12:49 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@williambranch4283 Who is going to make America fulfil its manifest destiny? Americans.
12:50 PM
@williambranch4283
I have no hatred for any Muslim, or anyone else. How can I be American?
12:50 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@williambranch4283 The Founding Fathers were proto-Muslim Noahides who started a series of republican revolutions that ended Christendom in 1918. Americans should be proud of this.
12:50 PM
@williambranch4283
Tayo ... Hell was made for people who question - Augustine of Hippo
12:51 PM
@LoricaSancta
augustine said that light was angels if i think or i like to think its thr spark of divine consciousness. me and Augustine differ on that maybe
12:51 PM
@OOOTLAM
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@williambranch4283 The full list of "unalienable rights" mentioned by Thomas Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence are contained in the Koran.
12:53 PM
@williambranch4283
Aztecs thought the Sun won't come up unless they kill some sucker
12:55 PM
@williambranch4283
How many millions of pregnancies terminated?
12:56 PM
@teestrypzSOG
#3
and Claire admitted she's a TLC member
12:57 PM
@OOOTLAM
#1
@teestrypzSOG I'm on the list.
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