12:03 PM
@OOOTLAM
@FungsiYukHunPo How about after this?
12:06 PM
@βρεττς
Claire are you trying to scoop Olson🤣🤣
12:07 PM
@OOOTLAM
@βρεττς I am keen to expedite matters, yes.
12:07 PM
@βρεττς
Olson would do better at letting Rob speak his peace, I think
12:08 PM
@UpCycleClub
Hello Claire
12:08 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
Claire, when you expedite, do you find you miss crucial steps?
12:08 PM
@OOOTLAM
We should have online cemeteries.
12:08 PM
@OOOTLAM
@SeekingGenuine Such as?
12:09 PM
@βρεττς
404 error
12:09 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
That’s an interesting idea about the online cemeteries
12:09 PM
@Jzepp
#3
It’s tradition. Burying reminds us of the resurrection of the body on the last day.
12:09 PM
@OOOTLAM
@SeekingGenuine Let's call it Death Book!
12:10 PM
@OOOTLAM
@Jzepp This seems unfair to people who did not receive a proper burial.
12:10 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
@Claire, it’s just a curiosity, as to whether or not you notice that when you value not wasting time, if the quality goes down
12:10 PM
@OOOTLAM
@FungsiYukHunPo Olson only wants the appearance of talking to me.
12:10 PM
@Jzepp
#3
It’s not necessarily a requirement, but a tradition.
12:10 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
I ask because I feel like when I rush to get to a point I miss the entire journey and make a lot of assumptions or equivocation to get there faster
12:10 PM
@βρεττς
He is a listener
12:11 PM
@UpCycleClub
@FungsiYukHunPo it would be great for you and Olson to talk. My offer still stands, and if you want, Olson can give you my email address.
12:11 PM
@Jzepp
#3
I like that @SeekingGenuine.
12:12 PM
@OOOTLAM
@SeekingGenuine I am just making the point that a policy of non-engagement has its roots in lack of conviction. Men ignoring me and operating a policy of non-engagement only proves my point.
12:12 PM
@βρεττς
You’ve been engaged
12:12 PM
@Jzepp
#3
Not all ideas are worthy of engagement.
12:13 PM
@OOOTLAM
@chrishoward8473 I wasn't referring to you!
12:13 PM
@Jzepp
#3
People are
12:13 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
@Jzepp precisely
12:13 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
And you need discernment for that
12:13 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
I love when Chris takes radical accountability
12:13 PM
@OOOTLAM
@Jzepp Christians should be interested in theology.
12:13 PM
@UpCycleClub
We are having fun.
12:14 PM
@βρεττς
So it must be so
12:14 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
It’s all because of you, Chris! That butterfly effect 🦋
12:14 PM
@OOOTLAM
@MarcInTbilisi Did you get my Trinity as a Jewish joke Substack post?
12:15 PM
@OOOTLAM
@FungsiYukHunPo I am a good listener.
12:15 PM
@Jzepp
#3
@OOOTLAM True, but the subject is quite broad and I have spent enough time in it to discover that many of the rabbit trails within theology lead nowhere.
12:16 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
@OOOTLAM , didn't I reply, ergo I read it.
12:16 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
short & sweet @OOOTLAM .
12:17 PM
@Jzepp
#3
@OOOTLAM I have found relationships with flawed people are much more useful for my faith than ideas. It’s quite unexpected.
12:18 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
@Jzepp I feel similarly!
12:18 PM
@OOOTLAM
@Jzepp If you want to remain Christian, it is entirely predictable that you would regard the Trinity as an article of faith and dogma.
12:18 PM
@βρεττς
Yoav I bet has ideas
12:18 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
Nulcear unnecessary now, hypersonic is the new thing.
12:18 PM
@OOOTLAM
@MarcInTbilisi I am never really sure if people really understand what I say.
12:19 PM
@OOOTLAM
@Jzepp I am a very flawed person!
12:19 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
@OOOTLAM , there was a jump in your logic which I couldn't gap.
12:19 PM
@OOOTLAM
@MarcInTbilisi Please explain.
12:20 PM
@OOOTLAM
@MarcInTbilisi Or even better, comment.
12:20 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
you did a 'therefore trinity' jump.
12:20 PM
@YoavBressler
Re. nuc's: the answer is that we do not know what under the tables arrangements are there in place.
12:20 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
I'll comment
12:21 PM
@OOOTLAM
@MarcInTbilisi Thank you!
12:22 PM
@βρεττς
Rain falls on the just and the unjust
12:22 PM
@OOOTLAM
America nuked Japan twice.
12:22 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
Israel doesn't have nuclear weapons (but they'll use them if they have to). Nobody wants to be first.
12:22 PM
@OOOTLAM
@MarcInTbilisi Israel is an American colony.
12:22 PM
@βρεττς
Every simulation shows the first person that shoots loses
12:23 PM
@Jzepp
#3
@OOOTLAM I don’t like to spar as much as you. I know you well enough to know this is your new jab and I don’t want to fight today. It’s too early here!
12:26 PM
@Jzepp
#3
@Fungsi Are you saying Chad is a hoax?
12:26 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
Not just you!
12:26 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
The world feels heavier from my perspective
12:26 PM
@OOOTLAM
@Jzepp I find it disturbing that nobody wants to solve problems with facts and logic and it never is the right time to heed your moral imperative.
12:27 PM
@βρεττς
I read letters from Nagasaki
12:27 PM
@OOOTLAM
@Jzepp Because Chad is the most prominent representative of TLC apart from PVK?
12:27 PM
@Jzepp
#3
@Fungsi I found that if I can try to match my circle of concern with my circle of influence, the world seems more right-sized.
12:28 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
Zepp, I agree
12:29 PM
@OOOTLAM
@FungsiYukHunPo Orthoboneheads used to be White Nationalists.
12:29 PM
@βρεττς
Anyone that asks questions is attacked
12:29 PM
@Jzepp
#3
@OOOTLAM I find TLC to be a ‘friendship first’ kind of place. ‘Ideas first’ doesn’t quite fit its paradigm.
12:30 PM
@OOOTLAM
@FungsiYukHunPo Did you hear Joseph training to be deacon spout his White Nationalist talking points at me on Luke's channel?
12:30 PM
@YoavBressler
PvK picked a fight with nobody
12:31 PM
@OOOTLAM
@Jzepp TLC does talk about Jordan Peterson issues and Christian Nationalism AKA White Nationalism.
12:32 PM
@OOOTLAM
@YoavBressler You just have to say something someone disagrees with and you will be accused of having "picked a fight".
12:32 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
How can I have listened to so much TLC and not once have heard Christian Nationalism promoted?
12:32 PM
@Jzepp
#3
@OOOTLAM You are referring to a media strawman of white nationalism. Not the real thing.
12:32 PM
@βρεττς
That’s true Claire
12:32 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
Emotional manipulation keeps you stuck in thinking about that loop that keeps you stuck
12:33 PM
@OOOTLAM
@stefaniecristos8514 It is just discussed by PVK and is now being discussed at CRC.
12:33 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
Oh my gosh, I have been to that Panera many times!
12:33 PM
@YoavBressler
As Christianity was born in the east, calling E.O. imperialism is slander.
12:33 PM
@βρεττς
We’re only trying to define it
12:33 PM
@OOOTLAM
@Jzepp White Nationalists have heeded the warning that race cannot be their religion.
12:34 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
My God that was a dull conversation
12:34 PM
@βρεττς
They are talking. So that’s good
12:34 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
pouring from the empty into the void
12:34 PM
@OOOTLAM
@YoavBressler White Nationalists cannot be expected to understand European history. I did stream about this yesterday mentioning The Idiot by Dostoevsky.
12:34 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
@marc you seem to be a man who enjoys some spice
12:35 PM
@Jzepp
#3
The best thing about that conversation was the difference in their perspective comment sections. If you want to understand the difference, ask Gemini to parse out the comments. It’s enlightening.
12:35 PM
@stefaniecristos8514
Discussing is not promoting, Claire. 🤷♀
12:35 PM
@βρεττς
Yes Jzepp
12:35 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
@SeekingGenuine my wife munches on chillies, I just swipe my hand.
12:36 PM
@βρεττς
Polarized
12:36 PM
@OOOTLAM
@Jzepp Orthodox Christianity is the weakest of all the big 3 Christian denominations since it has failed to defend the divine right of any Orthodox Christian monarch to rule.
12:36 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
Living by fear gives these P&P their power!
12:36 PM
@Jzepp
#3
It’s very right brain vs. left brain. Pageau-right, Ortlund-left.
12:37 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
yes @Jzepp , the head trying to relate to the heart, which it can't.
12:37 PM
@βρεττς
Yep Jzepp
12:37 PM
@OOOTLAM
While there are Catholic and Protestant monarchs in Europe, the Orthodox Christian monarch is now extinct.
12:37 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
And you can’t grasp something tangible to say “look what this is”, and so you feel like a crazy person talking about its effects
12:37 PM
@YoavBressler
but Christianity is the anti dot to the empire
12:37 PM
@SeekingGenuine
#1
However…wind causes a lot of damage and you can’t see that, just its effects
12:38 PM
@Jzepp
#3
@OOOTLAM Orthodox has no interest in monarchy and never will. They don’t even elect a leader for themselves.
12:38 PM
@Jzepp
#3
Yes! @Marc
12:38 PM
@OOOTLAM
If the FBI decided to do a crackdown on Christian Nationalists, their first port of call would be the Orthoboneheads of fighting age.
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