11:48 AM
@MarcInTbilisi
#2
ok, let me explain my thoughts. God made a perfectly imperfect universe. If it were perfect we could have no freedom, no ability to move. With the perfect imperfect 'model', spaceis given but we
11:48 AM
@MarcInTbilisi
#2
can't reach perfection
11:49 AM
@OOOTLAM
@MarcInTbilisi So you are beginning to see that this life is an examination hall if you believe in the afterlife?
11:49 AM
@MarcInTbilisi
#1
no idea what you just said Claire.
11:50 AM
@OOOTLAM
@MarcInTbilisi Weren't you saying that this life is not a bed of roses?
11:50 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
Enjoy your voting day, Ron. It is our privilege, I keep,reminding myself.
11:50 AM
@stefaniecristos8514
Marc, you make perfect sense to me.
11:50 AM
@MarcInTbilisi
#1
ok, good reading between the lines. It can be but you always have to maintain the roses.
11:51 AM
@OOOTLAM
If you think you are going to vote your way out of this, you are part of the problem. The bombing of Iran will resume after today.
11:51 AM
@OOOTLAM
@MarcInTbilisi Do you believe in the afterlife?
11:52 AM
@MarcInTbilisi
#1
it's a long conversation Claire but ask, what is life?
11:52 AM
@anselman3156
#2
Is that a Secular Korean?
11:52 AM
@OOOTLAM
It is crazy that Beau Erickson is basing his entire belief in Christianity on two men who were never trained theologians and would be considered heretics if Christians took Christianity seriously.
11:53 AM
@anselman3156
#2
I tend to agree with you there Claire
11:54 AM
@OOOTLAM
@MarcInTbilisi This life is an examination hall to test our ability to tell the difference between good and evil in theory and in practice. All Trinitarian Christians fail the theory part.
11:54 AM
@anselman3156
#2
The Cult of Barfield has adherents in TLC
11:54 AM
@OOOTLAM
If you fail the theory, you are going to fail the practical.
11:55 AM
@OOOTLAM
@anselman3156 It is interesting that we share the same view of TLC ie that it is a Church of Heretics.
11:55 AM
@MarcInTbilisi
#1
so you do believe in God @OOOTLAM
11:55 AM
@OOOTLAM
@MarcInTbilisi I am a Principled Agnostic who is theologically knowledgeable.
11:56 AM
@anselman3156
#2
It is not entirely composed of heretics Claire, but there are several
11:56 AM
@MarcInTbilisi
#1
an agnostic who believes in the afterlife
11:56 AM
@BrianOfCollegeStation
Everybody is somebody’s heretics, ya?
11:56 AM
@MarcInTbilisi
#1
ya
11:56 AM
@OOOTLAM
@anselman3156 The worst heretics are the most promoted eg GG, Luke and Mark Parker.
11:57 AM
@MarcInTbilisi
#1
hey, I'm upset Claire, you don't include me in your list of heretics.
11:57 AM
@OOOTLAM
@BrianOfCollegeStation Christianity is a religion antithetical to Judaism which takes the strongest position against idolatry as it necessarily must.
11:58 AM
@OOOTLAM
@MarcInTbilisi You're not even Christian, are you?
11:59 AM
@MarcInTbilisi
#1
I don't think of myself as Christian, but that doesn't mean I'm not a Christian. If you want to call me a Christian, I'll take the compliment.
12:00 PM
@OOOTLAM
@MarcInTbilisi I won't consider you Christian until you are confirmed. You are just an uneducated philosopher who is also theologically uneducated.
12:01 PM
@OOOTLAM
@MarcInTbilisi However theologically ignorant you are, you do know that the Abrahamic God forbade idolatry and blasphemy, don't you?
12:02 PM
@OOOTLAM
It's interesting that Americans regard their favourite movies as a kind of holy writ.
12:03 PM
@MongrelWing
Are you talking about Star Wars Claire?
12:05 PM
@anselman3156
#1
Hollywood brainwashing
12:05 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
#2
I am theologically ignorant, thank God, but I'd need to do a huge amount of research to calculate exactly what idolatry is & what blasphemy is.
12:05 PM
@OOOTLAM
Instead of bonding with each other over shared values and beliefs, Americans begin the process of getting to know each other by asking each other about their favourite movies and music. How shallow.
12:05 PM
@YawnGod
Hollywood is controlled by The Vatican.
12:05 PM
@YawnGod
@OOOTLAM They bond over disagreeing with you. It's meta, Ms. Khaw.
12:05 PM
@OOOTLAM
@MarcInTbilisi Just look up the Third Principle of Judaism and understand that idolatry is thoughtcrime.
12:06 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
#1
have to start somewhere Claire, Or would you rather vomit whenever you meet a new person?
12:06 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
#1
I'd need to study every denomination... Easier to say 'do unto others'
12:07 PM
@OOOTLAM
@YawnGod I am aware of my contribution to Heretical Christian Fellowship.
12:08 PM
@OOOTLAM
@MarcInTbilisi The most powerful denominations are Trinitarian ie the Catholic, Anglican and Orthodox Church. These are the only ones that matter because the others are low status.
12:08 PM
@MongrelWing
"Hi my name is MW, do you feel the deployment of nuclear warheads in Japan during the end of WWII was justified? What's your name by the way?"
12:08 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
#1
low status = wrong?
12:08 PM
@YawnGod
@MongrelWing Whoa whoa whoa, stop propagandizing. Those were nuclear peaceheads. ☢
12:09 PM
@OOOTLAM
@MongrelWing You already know they go against the Geneva Convention derived from Koranic principles of ethical warfare.
12:10 PM
@MongrelWing
I did not know that Claire
12:10 PM
@OOOTLAM
@MarcInTbilisi Politically insignificant.
12:10 PM
@anselman3156
#2
Any mass bombing of civilians is unethical. It's happening today
12:11 PM
@OOOTLAM
@MongrelWing The Koran contains principles of an ethical foreign policy which would prevent declining empires from falling into its Thucydides Trap as Britain did, twice, in WW1 and WW2.
12:11 PM
@MarcInTbilisi
#1
"ethical warfare", man that's,...
12:12 PM
@OOOTLAM
@anselman3156 Do you know that WW1 and WW2 have been periodised as the Second Thirty Years War?
12:12 PM
@anselman3156
#2
It was a conflict that de-Christianized national leaders were duped into
12:13 PM
@anselman3156
#2
There was a decline in Christianity in Europe and Britain in the run up to the WW1
12:13 PM
@OOOTLAM
There are historical accounts of cannibalism during the Thirty Years' War (1618–1648), primarily attributed to extreme famine and desperation.
12:14 PM
@anselman3156
#2
It was an unchristian fratricidal conflict
12:15 PM
@OOOTLAM
Let us hope there will be no Third Thirty Years War in the West. Secular Koranism has a detailed programme of transition from representative democracy to something more rational and principled.
12:15 PM
@anselman3156
#2
It seems God gives nations over to the terrible outcome of their falling away from him
12:16 PM
@OOOTLAM
@anselman3156 Idolaters heedless of the Noahide laws will keep paying the opportunity cost of being rightly guided by the Koran - the best available guide to humanity.
12:16 PM
@anselman3156
#2
Christianity from the start has been about doing away with war between peoples. It has had partial success, but the human sin factor cannot be eradicated in any society
12:18 PM
@anselman3156
#2
God allowing conflicts arising from human sin is part of the present probation in this earthly life
12:18 PM
@anselman3156
#2
Only in Jesus Christ will peace between nations be established forever on the new earth
12:19 PM
@anselman3156
#2
At present, different nationalities are united fraternally in the Church
12:19 PM
@OOOTLAM
@anselman3156 Jesus said nothing about foreign policy.
12:20 PM
@anselman3156
#1
Jesus announced his authority over all nations and called for them to all be taught of him
12:21 PM
@anselman3156
#1
Jesus sent his Apostles to all nations, and announced his future judgement of all nations
12:21 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
@anselman3156 The Trinity is totemic of Trinitarianism representing the most powerful denominations of Christianity. It has to give way to Marxism because the latter is so much easier to believe.
12:23 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
If the wealthy are afraid of Marxism, they would have to use the political economy of sharia to protect their property.
12:23 PM
@anselman3156
#1
Marx is dead. Marxism is false and ungodly. Jesus Christ lives
12:24 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
It is so easy to make the point that the rules of Islamic inheritance would make it easier for the middle classes to pass their property on to the next generation.
12:26 PM
@OOOTLAM
#3
@anselman3156 Marxism outlives Marx.
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