David Irving, make a TV documentary on Nazism and become Lord Irving of Nazism!

http://www.fpp.co.uk/online/13/01/Hess_mtg_pics.html

I finally bought an Irving book - the Hess one, because it didn't look too long.  It reads like a novel.   https://irvingbooks.com/xcart/product.php?productid=17525&cat=3&page=1

Me and perhaps the man who will one day become Lord Irving of Nazism ...

That is the particular speciality of David Irving. It is not so much his views, but the way he tells the story.

In any case, I do not think anyone Jewish present would be made uncomfortable by anything that was said. I am sure there must be Jews interested in real Nazi history and not merely the hysterical liberal version.  The only person who was obviously antisemitic was Lady Renouf, who was complaining about having been blacklisted by agencies so she can no longer get any work, after her visit to Iran.   However, to me, she was as beautiful and charming as ever.   In a way it is almost a kind of comic book antisemitism that I like to think I would not feel threatened by, even if I were myself a Jew.

I think Mr Irving really should record his talks and put them online as a taster, just to convey a flavour of his talks.

The Hess one I found the most moving, Hess to whom Mr Irving would have awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, but who was instead prosecuted for Crimes Against Peace, when it was he who risked life and limb to prevent a European Holocaust ...

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/nomination/#nominators

I would quite like the Nobel Peace Prize too and http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2012/01/how-to-solve-problem-of-israel.html is my suggestion for bringing about peace to the Middle East.

If Obama can be awarded it when he goes around invading so many countries, then why not me?

I enjoyed the Jimmy Savile joke too, made during the talk by Hugo Haig-Thomas.

Mr Irving is an English gentleman of the Old School.   In terms of television historians, I think he could be the equivalent of Lord Clark of Civilisation.  Sadly, however, Mr Irving is the kind of English gentleman who is rapidly becoming extinct.   Our degenerate times can no longer produce men of his quality, I fear.   If it were in my power, I would make him Lord Irving of Nazism.   It would be simply wonderful if a BBC camera crew could help him bring these characters back to life by following him around Germany and around the Munich beer houses in which Hitler made his speeches ...

It was very sociable with a lot of people I knew but didn't quite get the chance to speak to before they all went their separate ways again. A most enjoyable evening.  Everyone was so nice and friendly too.   

David Irving talk on 25 February 2012

http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/blogs/searchlight-blog/another-day-another-dollar

The once fighting fit far-right writer David Irving was a shadow of his former self when he hobbled into view last month at a meeting to promote his new book on Himmler, the mass murdering head of Hitler’s SS.

https://irvingbooks.com/xcart/home.php?cat=3  is where you can go to get David's books.  I am afraid the only reason why I have not bought any of his books is that they are so terribly long and I fear they will end up being one of those books that gather dust unread on my shelves.

Instead I got this at https://irvingbooks.com/xcart/product.php?productid=17520&cat=249&page=1 but cannot play it on my DVD.  I informed him of this by on 26 February.  He said he would see to it that it was replaced or the money refunded, but I have not heard from him since.

It was yet another engaging talk by David Irving, this time on how Churchill tricked the Americans into participating in WW2.

The previous  one I attended several years ago concerned the Holocaust of Dresden when in the space of  two days 100,000 Germans non-combatant civilians died and corpses were piled high one on top of the other.  This is of course the Holocaust denied by the British.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II

He looked very well, and was energetic, witty, lucid and entertaining.

David Irving and me at the Swan after his talk

He looked very much the same as the last time I saw him (2 or 3 years ago if I remember right) and has not noticeably aged.  As far as I am concerned, he looked fine for a man of 73.

To suggest that he was limping or had a gammy leg that day is simply untrue.   Why are the Left so consistently dishonest and malicious?  If the Right are so wrong, why do the Left not use the force of rational argument to dismiss our ideas?

It was also his 74th birthday on the 24th, so happy belated birthday, David.  Thank you for choosing to be a historian who wishes to tell the truth, as he sees it, even though the heavens fall in and the liberals rend their garments, tear their hair and gnash their teeth .....

It was not hard to miss Peter Rushton from the England First Party and his bosom friend Lady Michèle Renouf. Also prominent were the IONA London Forum chief honcho Jez Bedford-Turner and the Dragon Lady, as Claire Khaw is referred to by a fair number of fascist and racist followers, sometimes as a mark of respect, but otherwise as a derogatory term, coupled with racist abuse, by those who walk out of the room when she enters. Their objection is her non-white ethnicity not her views, such as this on her blog yesterday: “I am quite happy to announce that I would abolish infanticide as a crime. This means I would make it legal for parents to dispose of their own babies up to the age of 12 months.”

I didn't notice anyone walking out of the room when I arrived at the Swan 20 minutes late for the talk though.  Even if they had wanted to they would have been constrained by the fact that

1. it was a very crowded room
2. they were all seated
3. David Irving had begun the talk they had come and paid good money to hear

So yet another factual inaccuracy by the despicable and dishonest Left who care nothing for the truth, remain incapable of rational argument but only wish to demonise their enemies with smears and lies.

Actually, Peter Rushton very kindly bought me a drink during the interval and told me he had been interviewed by Russia Today on Syria that day.  You can see that at  http://www.rt.com/news/syria-referendum-vote-constitution-211/

He has done another at http://djia.tv/russia-today/mossad-agrees-iran-has-no-nuke-bomb-plot/ since then.

I also bumped into Lady Renouf who was a little cross with me for misunderstanding her talk on Birobidjan as a Jewish homeland I blogged about at http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/36th-new-right-meeting.html.  I asked in what regard and she asked me to look at http://www.birobidjan.co.uk/  I am none the wiser, sadly, and invite her to comment on the blog and correct me in any regard on what I have misunderstood.

During question and answers, I again asked the same question I asked last time of David Irving:

Is the existence of the Madagascar Plan evidence that the Nazis intended to expel rather than exterminate the Jews?  

He again agreed with me, but never seems to get my point that the way to make this point is to ask the question and to somehow incorporate this question into the title of one of his books.

A title that might make this point quite well:

"The Madagascar Plan: Intention, Expulsion and Extermination"

If the Allies had not declared war on Germany, the Jews would only have been expelled in another one of the pogroms periodically conducted on Jews in Christian Europe.  

Anyone who has seen Fiddler on the Roof will know what I mean.   The English were not the last to do this sort of thing  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edict_of_Expulsion as the Nazis have shown.  

Because the Allies declared war on Germany,  Jews were exterminated.  

At any rate more Jews were harmed and killed  by the Nazis because of WW2.

Why does no historian at all dare ask this question?

It is so much easier to justify and excuse all sorts of terrible injustices when you are at war, after all.

Indeed, I even tried to make this point to Jeffrey Marshall after the talk, but he suggested that it was not my place to tell my elders and betters who clearly knew much more history than me how to suck eggs.   "It is all about presentation", I cried, in frustration.  "Why doesn't anyone get it?"  To which the infuriating and pompous response I received was, "Oh, but he is a historian, while you are a propagandist."   

36th New Right Meeting

I am just more or less transcribing my incomplete notes, some of which are direct quotes of what I thought I heard.

First Speaker
DR JAMES THRING - Gaddafi's Nationalist People's Republic

Gaddafi wanted everyone to be heard in Parliament.  Anyone can go and you can imagine that this would be difficult to handle.

King Idris, overthrown by Gaddafi in 1969 in a bloodless coup, was installed by the British and the French.  He was their puppet who agreed that the price of oil would be fixed at US$2 with no inflation.   Gaddafi wanted a better deal for the Libyans and got this when he took over.

He also challenged the democratic model.  He was aware that electing politicians was not always democratic, for they will not always do what they are expected to do.  They may wish to keep their promises to voters but are prevented by their party leaders, who may in turn be pressurised.

Parties who win power generally win power with only 30% of the vote in any case.

Parties are always in need of funding.

Thatcher was advised to privatise by Jewish advisers to raise cash so so the nation's infrastructure was sold off for a song to Jewish business interests.

The UN is a permanent dictatorship by 5 permanent members.

Article 27 states that parties to a dispute eg Israel forfeit their right to vote on it.  The Chinese are timid about pointing this out.

Dr Thring then addressed the 4 matters on which the average Westerner might hold against Gaddafi.

1.   Gaddafi supported the IRA.

The US supported Israel.  Lots and lots of money have been given to the Israelis.  To be fair to the IRA, they always warned the police before they blew anything up.

2.  Lockerbie

House of Lords judges have held that the evidence against Libya was unreliable.

It is revealing that the UK didn't want it appealed since the Scots let Al-Megrahi go rather than have another trial.

Mr Bollinger (whom I understood to be speaking on behalf of the manufacturers of the chip of the circuit board that caused the explosion) was not allowed to see the chip in question and was only shown a photograph of it.

He declared that the one shown to him was not one of his.  The one in question was hand-finished and rough at the edges, those of his manufacture were always machine-finished.

This little thing was surprisingly discovered amongst the wreckage.

The damage to the plane was caused by an implosion rather than an explosion.

10 miles south of Locker was Chapel Cross, a nuclear power station which would, as you expect have defences against an aerial attack. Could the Pan Am plane have been shot down by the  RAF in error?

Dr Thring also mentioned the DEA stings which have bombs in suitcases that are handed over to the target that would explode to disable him.

3.  Yvonne Fletcher

The bullet entered her back at 60-70 degrees.  The Libyan Embassy was not tall enough for  someone shooting from any window there to do this.  There is however a nearby security firm with a building near the Libyan Embassy.  The bullet that killed Yvonne Fletcher was the same as the ones that killed Libyan diplomats, the police were told.  The police apparently forgot about this.

4.   Gaddafi allowed the PLO to train on Libyan soil.

5.   Gaddafi was implicated in the disappearance of  a Lebanese Shia cleric Imam Moussa Sadr.

It should be noted that Gaddafi was critical of Al Qaeda, trained by the CIA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Crisis_Group
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_of_Youth_Movements

are, Dr Thring, suggested, organisations that go around destabilising the governments of other countries so they could be invaded under the pretext of protecting the human rights of their people.  

Dr Thring describes himself as a planner and first met Gaddafi in 1985 and attended various international Mataba Conferences.

Lady Michelle

2nd Speaker
LADY MICHELLE RENOUF
My Project with Gaddafi on the UN and the Jewish Republic http://jewishrepublic.com/

Lady Michelle described the 4 Classical Virtues: Balance, Harmony, Sense of Beauty, Temperance.  She extended the list with Natural Nationalism, a sense of justice, wisdom, scientific attitude, courage and empathy.

There is nothing about Truth in the Talmud.  The Jews are predatory, obsessed with racial superiority, vanity and greed.   They have the power of thraldom with their predatory imperialism.

"Any foreigner would loathe us," she said of the British and their dishonourable foreign policy.

Gaddafi embodied the metaphysical identity of the Libyans, she said.  If only the British had a similar leader, so that that the British can say that the kind of Britishness we respect is this kind of British.

She mentioned the people who refused to come to this meeting because they did not want to hear about Gaddafi and don't care about the Palestinians.

She said was opposed to racial supremacy but "we have to look at the economics of it".   "The world cannot function in a predatory way."

Supposing a fathers one child.  You may motivate that favoured child and cause sibling rivalry or low morale.

"Our predator's greatest gift is its plausibility" - its Swindlespeak and media hype.

"It is my absurd career in advertising that gives me the edge on them."

She then spoke of the Jewish Autonomous Republic of Birobidzhan, as big as Switzerland, that would accept Jews of Russia and any kind.  It has been in existence since 1928 and has been supported by American Jews too.   Its first language is Yiddish.  There are not many Jews there now as they have been have gone to Israel.   Many Jews have been seduced or forced to support Israel.

Vatican II was mentioned.  "The two covenants stand."  [I have no idea what she meant.]

Christianity and Islam are the dolphin religions.  Those religions have a sense of brotherhood.   The concept of brotherhood however is not present in Judaism, which she said is a "shark religion".

Gaddafi was insufficiently dictatorial.  In fact, he was a mere guide and didn't like posters of himself.  He said he wanted people to follow his teachings rather than heroworship him.

Lady Michelle said we need more witty, brilliant, authentic men like Gaddafi.

All US Presidential candidates have to be pro-Zionist.

She described her last meeting with Gaddafi as "bitter sweet" and was very proud to say that Gaddafi himself had said that he was proud of her.   The Libyans were proud of Gaddafi and their metaphysical identity, which he embodied.

"We need to be like soldiers."

"We want to enjoy genuine diversity [of our different races and our nations] rather than the Swindlespeak of diversity.

"The idea of international citizenship is absurd.  Nationalism fits us.  We need to trust our leaders to keep out our predator."

"We have a fantastic role model in Gadadfi."

"There is no nationalism in Israel."  [I am afraid I have no idea what Lady Michelle means.  Perhaps she meant that the ethno-nationalism of the Zionists is not really nationalism at all but a form of exclusive divisive tribalism?)

"The real role model is Gaddafi."

"We have to find like the Third Reich did: how high they can jump, their character, their environment and culture."

"It nearly conquered our predator."

[I apologise for the fragmentary nature of this account.  There will be a DVD of the talks recorded by Lady Renouf available at £5.  http://www.jailingopinions.com/contacts.htm]

Revisionist Xmas cards on sale at the meeting

3rd Speaker
MIKE NEWLAND: Are the Banks a Swindle?

Newland was trained as an accountant and was once BNP Treasurer.  Like me, he was expelled.  http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/index.php?link=template&story=84

Adrian Davis introduces Mike Newland

His talk dealt with the following:

1.   Why is economics so difficult?
2.   Fractional Reserve Banking
3.   Boom and Bust

I am afraid I fell asleep.

I woke up hear him saying we will have 10 more years of zombie economy.

Adrian Davis introduces the orator Jonathan Bowden

4th Speaker
JONATHAN BOWDEN: Yukio Mishima

I had the distinct feeling that most people there had not heard of Mishima but I have read and still have in my possession THE LIFE AND DEATH OF YUKIO MISHIMA by Henry Scott Stokes  http://www.amazon.co.uk/Life-Death-Yukio-Mishima/dp/0815410743/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323684847&sr=8-1

The humiliating defeat of Japan was internalised and the Japanese feminised.   There was little social anger towards the US, and Mishima felt that the Japanese had been mentally and morally invaded by the US.

The Japanese have manga comics through which they externalise rather than repress their transgressive urges.   Rapeman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rapeman was mentioned, a superhero rather like Spiderman.  It is both sadistic and erotic, said Jonathan Boweden.

The samurai were a soldierly elite.  They were learned warriors, infused by Buddhism, aesthetic masculinity, with the values of the praetorian elite and the Spartans.  They were a priestly and warrior caste and expected to write a death poem before they committed ritual suicide in the form of a haiku that would contain themes of gentleness and forgiveness.  Their values were similar to those articulated by D H Lawrence and Nietzsche.

Mishima asked: "Why did the emperor have to become a human being?"

The Orator Jonathan Bowden in full flow

Mishima asked for the impossible, for he asked for the return of things as they were in Japan before their defeat in WW2.  Probably, he expected them to be rejected so he could then commit ritual suicide, to show his disgust with and dissociation from modern Japan, to make his point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yukio_Mishima