.@BBCNews
A satirical response to "debate" on today's @alzheimerssoc @BBCNews story re #dementia support: http://t.co/j8XTkTeyCu … #care
— Ming Ho (@Minghowriter) July 6, 2015
Ming Ho satirises the exchange we had at http://dementiajustaintsexy.blogspot.co.uk/2015/07/an-economically-viable-unit.html
Patchy support for people with dementia is failing patients and their carers, doctors warn. http://t.co/FtkmdDmrHx pic.twitter.com/OkPXTY7XZt
— BBC Radio 4 Today (@BBCr4today) July 6, 2015
.@BBCr4today
Not news to #carers; & #NHS #CHC assessment = travesty designed to exclude. Let's Get Real: http://t.co/wARB95BxGY #dementia
— Ming Ho (@Minghowriter) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter @BBCr4today There should be a law proposing that there should be a presumption that dementia-sufferers be euthanased.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@ntfem @BBCr4today
Yeah, thanks. That's really helpful.
— Ming Ho (@Minghowriter) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter @BBCr4today The NHS is not a bottomless pit of taxpayers' money. If you want it to be free for all it will have to be rationed
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter @BBCr4today I have already suggested that free healthcare should be withdrawn from those suffering from dementia.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter @BBCr4today What's the point of carrying on living without your marbles if you have no money and no one wants to look after u?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter @BBCr4today Dementia sufferers have had their innings, so to speak, and marbles once lost will not be found again.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@TrollULike @BBCr4today Everyone should know that once they lose their marbles they have a very good chance of being euthanased.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter @BBCr4today Do you remember the death scene from Soylent Green? https://t.co/vYsXhCEMkP
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter If anything is done by government it would be for social policy and economic reasons, or it would be none of their business.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter Social policy and economic reasons are intended to be for the greater good and I expect government to make hard choices.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter As long as whatever social policy and economic reasons given are sound, I don't see what the problem is.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter If the NHS were abolished then our health would not be the business of government at all.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter While every society should have hospitals n save lives it could easily save eg in A&E dementia-sufferers are a different thing
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter I am happy to check out if and when I have lost so many of my marbles my existence is a burden to myself and others.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter If one has lost one's marbles and no one is prepared to look after us, then check out we must, whether we like it or not.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter If I have loved ones prepared to put up with me being just slightly gaga then I live. If I have no one and no money off I go.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter I know someone who visits her mother who asks her daughter who she is and tells her daughter not to call her "mum".
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@ntfem
Yeah, that's me. http://t.co/GFwCdVp28u But awful tho it is, mum still has other faculties; wld not want gov 2 decide she can't live
— Ming Ho (@Minghowriter) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter I remember my horror n disgust when my mother bought me Barbara Cartland novels she thot I shd b interested in as n adolescent
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter You should get over your hurt feelings and ask her about her daughter, and obviously what she thought of her!
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter Don't call your mother mum, only by her Christian name. I am sure many interesting things will be revealed.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter u could discuss with ur mother the old saying that no one uses any more "u have 2b cruel 2b kind." It wd be most enlightening.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@ntfem
In your world, it's best that none of us cares for anyone else, as "hurt feelings' just get in the way of economic viability.
— Ming Ho (@Minghowriter) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter Actually, I do care, which is why I have gone through the trouble of making my proposals, which I stand by.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter I care about principles which the feminine mind would regard as mere abstractions, while you say you care about people.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter u and those of ur ilk wd doubtless regard the long term national interest as a nebulous abstraction unworthy of your attention
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter Feminists tend 2b materialists, preoccupied with their own immediate interests n what they regard as flesh and blood matters.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter Because of my proposals you and those of your ilk would doubtless traduce me as being robotic, uncaring, uncompassionate etc.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter She might appreciate being addressed just by her first name. I can see the seeds of an interesting dramatic scene!
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter I think calling her by name would please her. We all of us secretly resist the idea of being an appendage to spouse/children.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter If you hang on for decades without your marbles people will just remember you as the gaga old woman for ever and ever.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter Objective criteria should be set, and I have proposed them. When enough boxes are ticked, off we go.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter It can be done nicely, like that Soylent Green death scene. You announce an imminent death then get a Victorian deathbed scene
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter Victorian deathbed scenes are really to die for. It is almost worth planning your death so you can hold one.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
http://www.bl.uk/romantics-and-victorians/articles/deathbed-scenes-in-fiction
@Minghowriter I really don't see what the big deal is. We should be planning and preparing for our death by the time we get to middle age.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter You are understandably and instinctively protective of your mother, but having certain rules in place would actually assist u.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter Because the government takes over, you would not feel as if you were throwing your parent to the dogs, so to speak.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter If u had loads of money n could afford nurses in your mansion, your ailing parent could avoid the lot of the ordinary mortal.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter There will be lots more childless gaga people about with no money and no one who wants to look after them, I am afraid.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter My proposals are really to take into account the needs of these soon to be ailing and probably gaga childless old people.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter No point consigning childless gaga old people into homes where they will probably be regularly abused at taxpayers' expense.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter I have not got as far as getting an Enduring Power of Attorney. My preparations are only emotional and interior at the moment.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Cazlizdav @Minghowriter I have proposed OBJECTIVE criteria that can be easily followed with room for people to opt out if they have money.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Cazlizdav @Minghowriter If you are at home no one will come to euthanase you, but if you are already in a care home/hospital, watch out ...
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter Cheaper to do it here. I knew a childless old neighbour who starved herself to death who was in a home after she broke her hip
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter I don't think anyone else had visited judging from the reaction of the nurse. She was only a neighbour, not a family member.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter The nurse told me that she was intentionally starving herself to death. I did follow it up with a call but she had died.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter I did visit her once in her home but she was already breathing through an oxygen mask. The nurse told me she was refusing food
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter At the end of the day, even if you do have the money for the nurses and have children, life may still not be worth living.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter @Cazlizdav Our value as individuals can be simply calculated by people who want to look after us once we have lost our marbles
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter @Cazlizdav If someone of full legal capacity is suddenly taken away by men in white coats I would suspect a political motive.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter The wealthy will always have a more comfortable life and death, but my proposals are for large numbers of childless gaga ppl.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter Even if we have children there is no longer the presumption that they would look after us these days.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter When I talk about the large numbers of childless gaga people I am afraid I do mean lots of people I know.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter @Cazlizdav By refusing to deal with it properly, you make life even more difficult for dementia-sufferers and their carers.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter @Cazlizdav Basically, your strategy is to complain and hope the government will spend more money on dementia-sufferers/carers.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@ntfem @Minghowriter compared to yours which is to kill everybody?!
— Caroline Davies (@Cazlizdav) July 6, 2015
@Cazlizdav @Minghowriter In which tweet did I say anything that would give you just cause to think that I was proposing "to kill everybody"?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Cazlizdav @Minghowriter Are u sure you are rational enough to discuss this, now that you have accused me of saying things I have not said?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Cazlizdav @Minghowriter If you are being hysterical you should have a rest before you accuse me of wanting to exterminate everyone.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Cazlizdav @Minghowriter Mind you, most female voters would react in the way you have done: with hysteria, malice, lies and smears.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Cazlizdav @Minghowriter Of course, male MPs are terrified of female voters foaming at the mouth with hysteria/malice/lies/smears on Twitter
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Cazlizdav @Minghowriter You need not worry. It is precisely because all male MPs are terrified of you that NOTHING WILL BE SAID OR DONE.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Cazlizdav @Minghowriter No one will adopt my ideas and childless gaga old people will be funded by the taxpayer to be abused in care homes.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Cazlizdav @Minghowriter I hope you are now sufficiently comforted and reassured that precisely nothing will change. Pat urself on the back.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Cazlizdav @Minghowriter Women tend to like having someone to look after because it gives them status and a purpose in life.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter @Cazlizdav There is no more money in the kitty. Healthcare is a zero sum game and resources should be rationally allocated.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter It would be more dignified for them to go willingly with a proper deathbed ceremony than to die of neglect and abuse.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@ntfem
Again "them"! When do you acknowledge possibility this could be you - now? Because many don't ever consider themselves "demented".
— Ming Ho (@Minghowriter) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter Those close to use would complain that we are being more forgetful than usual and send us to do tests, which we would fail.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter Obviously I would not go willingly today since I'm not suffering from dementia, but if I were, I'm sure I could be cajoled.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@ntfem
Dream on! Precisely my point. You most likely wouldn't know & would resist v strongly - already big problem in getting support.
— Ming Ho (@Minghowriter) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter Most people are very suggestible even with all their marbles.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter If I am terminally ill, have no money and no one wants to look after me even with all my marbles I wd still have to check out.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter It is nothing to do with being a robot, but to ameliorate the lot of childless gaga people in the hard times ahead.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter You just want to close your eyes to the thought of taxpayers' paying for the care of childless gaga people no one cares about.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter I am saying scarce resources should be more usefully and rationally diverted to the healthcare of those in a useful occupation
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter If things carry on as now, what would happen is taxpayers' money would be spent on childless gaga people being abused in homes
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter By denying the problem exists and refusing to deal with it you are causing more suffering and wasting taxpayers' money.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter The sooner my proposals are put in place the sooner people will begin to realise what they should be doing to avoid them.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter I would have thought that the most important thing for us to hang on to would be our marbles, whatever our race, class etc.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter @Cazlizdav Not unheard of for people with elderly parents/relations in pre-welfare state days to bump them off.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter @Cazlizdav Elderly gaga parent bumped off by one's offspring would have died with more dignity than someone dumped in a home.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter @Cazlizdav Doctor might risk taking rap for murder by hurrying a patient's death for the benefit of a carer no longer coping.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
@Minghowriter @Cazlizdav Even now people wink at monarchs having been euthanased. Remember "Bugger Bognor"? http://t.co/gPZi8ZLMqH
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) July 6, 2015
