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Showing posts with label Terrorism Act 2000. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Terrorism Act 2000. Show all posts

Sunday, 27 September 2015

British values/morality v Islamic values/morality

According to Ofsted, 'fundamental British values' are:


  • democracy
  • the rule of law
  • individual liberty
  • mutual respect for and tolerance of those with different faiths and beliefs and for those without faith.


What are Islamic values? Are they necessarily antithetical to British values?

Islamic morality can be defined because its rules of morality can be easily ascertainable by reference to the Koran eg the prohibition of usury, pork, gambling, alcohol, extramarital sex.

British values cannot be similarly established because there is no authoritative book with the title "British Morality For All Time" said to be written by the Greatest Liberal of All Time. Liberals will doubtless be dismayed to know that the Koran is obviously conceptually superior any other idea including liberalism because it is said to be the directly transcribed Word of God.

Islamic morality is intended to be universal and eternal, unlike British morality, which is indistinguishable from British values and British culture. British values were defined under a Conservative government whose leader and Prime Minister legalised gay marriage. British values were only defined British values in response to those who sought to challenge it by asking the government what they were.  The most fundamental British value is of course the right to have extramarital sex, which is now regarded as an inalienable human right. The evil consequences of these values have been described at http://uk.reuters.com/article/2007/11/12/uk-britain-motto-idUKL1256515520071112

In my view, the exercise of defining British values is futile and illogical.  It is illogical to define British values simply because they are bound to change if it is indeed the case that British values means British morality and it is the law's role to limit our immorality. The law changes from time to time and government to government. After a revolution, the morality that emerges is bound to be radically different to the morality that was in existence before the revolution. To advocate the return to pre-revolutionary laws would mean one is a reactionary, or a counter-revolutionary and therefore a security threat to the current regime, with grave consequences for our reputation, career and perhaps liberty and life itself. Even without a revolution, morality changes but more gradually, for example when a Labour government repeals a law passed by a Conservative government or vice versa, or when a Conservative Prime Minister legalises gay marriage.

On the grounds of individual liberty we should of course be allowed to say that the current system of morality is not one we ought to have, give reasons and propose changes which can only be done by changing the law (eg repealing or passing an Act of Parliament) or by changing the government (eg Labour, Conservative, UKIP etc) or indeed changing  the entire system of government (eg from a representative democracy to a Caliphate, dictatorship, one-party state, theocracy etc).

If we cannot do this without being arrested for inviting support for a proscribed organisation under s 12 of the Terrorism Act 2000, as Anjem Choudary was, are even those who articulated and commissioned the declaration of British values breaking their own rules?

If the government is breaking its own rules - the one concerning upholding the rule of law as well as the one about individual liberty (which must surely include freedom of  expression and freedom of belief) - then British values as pronounced by the British government is a sham.  They were only declared so that those who question and challenge it can be demonised as extremists and then categorised as potential terrorists, as a way of intimidating those who are thinking of speaking out as well as punishing those who already have. 

Saturday, 29 August 2015

Anjem Choudary and the First Amendment

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34086181

We will know after his trial whether merely expressing approval for terrorists is the same as "inviting support for terrorism" under section 12 of the Terrorism Act 2000

However much you loathe him, Choudary has clearly bounced the government into showing its true colours. This is what all the radical but peaceful Muslims do, and in this way perform a public service for us by being the litmus test as regards how much liberals still believe in liberalism.

If expressing approval of terrorists is treated as "inviting support for terrorism", then we no longer have free speech.

If Anjem Choudary were an American Citizen found guilty under this law, that would mean that the US government has unilaterally done away with the First Amendment.

If liberals no longer believe in free speech and the rule of law, then what do they still believe in?

We already know they no longer believe in freedom of contract and freedom of association.

It would appear that approving of gay marriage is a badge of liberalism, but when was changing the definition of marriage ever a pillar of liberalism?

PC Liberalism is really about the sanctification of the right to have extramarital sex as an inalienable human right.

How helpful is this idea to society and the strength and duration of Western civilisation?

Social conservatives of all religions and none would say "Not at all helpful."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Laws_of_Noah

http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2015/08/anjem-choudarys-trial-for-tweeting-and.html

https://www.youtube.com/user/anjemchoudary

https://twitter.com/search?q=from%3Aanjemchoudary%20since%3A2014-06-29%20until%3A2015-03-06&src=typd

You would have thought that the CPS would have prepared his case ready for trial by now considering he was arrested on 25 September 2014, but they are making him wait another 5 months before he can have his trial, presumably to send a message to other Muslim radicals as to what could happen to them if they are considered by the government to be expressing approval for ISIS.

If liberalism is no longer about free speech and freedom of worship, what is it about?

Is liberalism now synonymous with unquestioning support of neocon foreign policy and gay marriage?

Is this the reason why citizens of NATO member states are now targets of Muslim terrorism?

Are you sure you are comfortable with this idea?


Saturday, 22 August 2015

Should it be a crime to express approval of a terrorist organisation targeting your government and fellow citizens?




I would suggest not. Those who do stick their neck out to say such things will have sacrificed their reputations and livelihoods in order to do this. If they are prepared to make these sacrifices to make their point, shouldn't we take the trouble to listen to their arguments?

Mark Parker entertains doubts

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