Doooovid is looking almost handsome this week, for some reason. Can't quite put my finger on it.
7:57 Don't be mad at yourself, Jen . You got confused at times during the free will debate to the extent of losing track of which stage of the debate you were at, but perhaps that is an indication that the unnecessarily complicated format should be given up and my more uncomplicated ideas adopted. Perhaps we could do our debate using both formats to demonstrate their respective efficacy ie 1) I interview you about your beliefs. 2) You interview me about mine. 3) We debate each other formally.
8:00 I thought Zachary obviously won the debate because the points he made were clear. He is also a legally trained, and it showed.
9:00 The position of Jen and Will on free will is incoherent. Basically, free will was an idea created to give humans dignity and determinism an idea to give us comfort when we do not succeed in getting what we want despite our best attempts. That's why they go together like horse and carriage.
12:00 The Abrahamic God is a personal God. A personal deity is more powerful than an impersonal one. Quite why Jen prefers a less powerful deity to worship is still a mystery to me. The reason could be her general rejectionism of the Abrahamic faiths because she has chosen to reject the Abrahamic God because it is Jewish.
15:00 I met Jen on the Babscast too. Thank you, Babs! The first time we met was at https://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.com/2018/12/claire-khaw-meets-jennifer-scharf.html in the early hours of the morning in a smokey New York bar ....
18:00 Elliott Blatt hates conflict and Jen did not protect him quite enough from Doooovid who kept interrupting him. I am reminded of a documentary in which a mother of two chicks basically decided to let the weaker chick be killed by her stronger older chick because it was not capable of defending itself.
22:00 Zachary appears on my stream at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szKLnNLmXwY&t=139s
25:00 Kade basically said "Keep it simple and keep it short." I already know this but it is hard to keep to this rule and I have many moments of weakness. I hope to demonstrate the efficacy of this rule with Jen, preferably.
28:00 Song for Claire's stream by Cream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VR90gQ-SIaY
My favourite Eric Clapton song is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVOuRQPPdoo not that I want to be seen to be in any way encouraging drug use. There is so much about it that pushes all the right buttons for me. If you want to sing along to it you should substitute the forbidden word for Khawcaine.
31:00 Gandalf shouts at Kade.
33:00 YouTube is graduation from Facebook. That's what I feel about it too. YouTube gives me the potential space for my personality to expand.
37:00 Gandalf just needs self-control and to avoid the Deadly Sin of Anger and Pride.
38:00 Jen says she prays "a lot" to her impersonal God. What is Jen's philosophy for approaching God? Understanding the nature of the Abrahamic God would actually help you, Jen. Doooovid confirms my point about praying to God in your own words ie having an internal dialogue with Him and in this way developing a relationship. Mantras and memorised prayers are helpful but can be sterile if performed mechanically.
41:00 Jon Vance - I think he was just upset last week that you wouldn't answer a question he asked or address an issue he wanted discussed.
50:00 Antifa are the government's rent a mob. They are not interested in debate, only in suppressing debate. Dooovid: "We work together with antifa."
54:04
Church of Entropy
"Claire is trying to weasel out of the debate by the way"
Not really. I have already proposed the following:
We should use both formats to demonstrate their respective efficacy ie 1) I interview you about your beliefs. 2) You interview me about mine. 3) We debate each other formally.
1:10:00 My streams of the week mentioned. Thank you, Doooovid! xxxx
What we really need are editors and clippers of the best of our streams.
1:17:00 Jen is the only Western woman who disagrees with me and still talks to me - a rare bird indeed!
1:21:00 Daniel Sienkiewicz on my stream at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIDTAasNmVU
At 6:15:00 he says "Bye for now" after I tell him he is welcome back any time, which is perfectly understandable.
1:25:00 Doooovid doesn't like debating with me, but we have had two debates so far.
I hint that Jews as part of their tikkun olam should declare Secular Koranism to be more in conformity with the Noahide laws than idolatrous Christianity
http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.com/2018/10/ask-rabbi-5-claire-khaws-questions-for.html
1:27:00 Jen always plays exchange of Jon Vance being shouted at by Monsieur, an American Chinaman, when the latter clearly misunderstood what he was saying and it is not even clear what he was shouting at Jon about. For some reason, the American Chinaman thought that the Canadian nationalist was about to "take his shit".
1:28:00 Free will gives you the impetus to try. Predestination comforts you when you fail.
1:29:00 Doooovid implies that my victory is not a real victory.
1:31:00 We would love to be in your yoga class, Jen.
1:32:00 I have no influence at all in physics, maths or yoga, Jen. I have influence simply because people understand my ideas while they are still scratching their heads about yours. Kade was trying to tell you to keep it simple and keep it brief, but you still feel you need to show off your knowledge of physics and maths to the plebs who don't get it.
1:34:00 Claire's Dark Room is developing the picture!
1:35:00 Jen on Plumed Serpent at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rcBOlvtkjE&t=9231s
1:37:00 I don't want to waste my time on debating you on whether God is personal or impersonal when you won't even explain to me why this is your opinion. I have proposed the following:
1) I interview you about your beliefs. 2) You interview me about mine. 3) We debate each other formally.
Obviously, we are both trying to undermine each other's ideas. First, we must understand the basis of the other's ideas. Then we proceed to undermine them. This is the whole point of the exercise, isn't it?
You said the first speech is 7 minutes each when I opted for the maximum option you gave of 20. You weren't happy and made me choose 7, which I did because it just seemed easier to submit to your demands, no matter how ridiculous. Do you think 7 minutes is enough for me to grasp the basis of your conclusion that God is impersonal if I am not allowed to stop you when I don't understand what you are saying and throw your word salads at me?
Your orbiters will just say you won no matter what is said and they are mostly too dim to understand rational arguments anyway.
What will happen then is that we will both speak for 7 minutes but more people will understand what I mean.
Then we will speak for 5 minutes to rebut each other's arguments.
How much do you think the morons will grasp of our arguments? It won't matter because your morons will say you won the debate whatever you say, even if they don't understand. It would be great fun if I could ask anyone who thought you won why they thought so!
1:42:00 Doooovid attempts to engage Jen on free will and she is avoidant.
1:51:00 Zed Dez has admitted that I will never be invited on JF's show because he and his audience don't like Secular Koranism. So much for journalistic integrity, eh? Since he is a terrible interviewer and a sleazebag with a ridiculous accent, I have no desire to appear on his show and even if I did, it would not enhance my reputation.
1:57:00 There is a charming haiku about spiders. https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/50983/selected-haiku-by-issa
I have some magnificent spiders. Some years ago I saw one of them give birth and hundreds of her spiderlings emerge ....
2:03:00 Jen exhibits her femininity by expressing a preference for her cosy little circle. http://www.heretical.com/sgs-2002/toa-s29.html I understand that much of male discourse is implicit or explicit threats of violence. They know their role is to fight together or against each other.
2:21:00 What was this sacred object thing you were talking about last week, Jen? I must have missed it. My sacred object from you is of course your Claire Khaw Debate Rubric at https://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.com/2019/04/theology-patriarchy-and-nationalism.html. I may never hold it in my hands but the pleasure it brings me can be immediately recollected.
2:25:00 Why does Gandalf expect the Koran to have rules and regulations about storms? 1:53:00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FbGEJls9Dg Gandalf becomes emotional.
2:29:00 Alpha male Kade who was on Jen's stream at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIMaMUpX9Q8&t=438s from 2:54:00 is mentioned. There is also a running commentary of this interview at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FbGEJls9Dg from 6:04:00 which continues at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-OYMpfZbas
My genius as Jen's publicist are being currently demonstrated. Even Judas tells me I have created a monster.
2:35:00 My open mic streams could become like Luke Ford's streams, says Doooovid. Jen and I are stream partners made in heaven but for some reason Jen is being avoidant, probably because she does not want to be seen to be under my influence when she knows she cannot use Truth, Logic and Morality to undermine Secular Koranism. I am older and wiser than Jen but she is too proud to submit to me and be seen to lose status amongst her followers. Fear not, Jen. My style is collegiate and comradely rather than imperious and dictatorial!
2:41:00 I bring out the best and worst in Gandalf.
2:46:00 Doooovid suggests I am targeting vulnerable white men to radicalise them. Actually, I am targeting senior male members of the Western political establishment. Are Brundlefly, Millennial Woes, Mark Collett, Luke Ford, Richard Spencer, Dennis Dale, Otto, OV, Kade etc "vulnerable"? Is Jen a vulnerable white woman?
2:50:00 I am neither neo-Nazi nor Muslim. In these circles and Jen's, I am actually described as a philosemite.
2:54:00 Doooovid is clearly damning me with faint praise and suggestions that I am like ISIS.
2:57:00 Jen does indeed dominate me and I do indeed submit to her ...
3:02:00 Is Doooovid actually jealously warning Jen off me?
3:03:00 Jen says is not about hating anyone - and I believe her - yet she rejects the Abrahamic faiths on the grounds that they are Jewish. I am obviously not antisemitic (because I acknowledge the supremacy of Jewish ideas), Islamophobic (being a Secular Koranist) or racist (being a civic nationalist).
3:11:00 Jen calls me a parasite.
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