Three Trinitarian idolaters urge the West to stay Christian

11:30  Gavin Ashenden: "Jesus is more of a victim than Muhammad."

It seems Ashenden is keener to emphasise the fact that Muhammad is the oppressor, for obvious reasons.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions

The Koran has a chapter on Mary, acknowledges Jesus and the Virgin Birth. There are verses in it also saying that these Jews and Christians will never be happy until Muslims do things their way.

https://www.alislam.org/library/articles/is-it-true-that-the-quran-says-to-not-take-the-jews-and-christians-for-friends/

Let us imagine if you were to ask Jesus what we are to do about violence and immigration. Could Jesus have any advice other than to refer the matter to Muhammad? And if you asked Muhammad, he would say that all the solutions are already in the Koran revealed 1400 years ago.


23:00  Are you aware why Jews are not permitted to enter churches?  https://www.jpost.com/Magazine/Judaism/May-a-Jew-enter-a-non-Jewish-house-of-worship


27:00  What are Christian principles? The requirement to worship an executed revolutionary as the co-equal of God? Surely this is idolatry. Idolatry is an abomination and attracts the death penalty for Jews. If Christians have been practising idolatry for 2000 years, then the decline and fall of their civilisation must be God's punishment. Fortunately, He has thoughtfully revealed the Koran through Muhammad to ease the Post-Christian out of idolatry.


To help with this process, there is also Secular Koranism.
http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.com/2014/05/secular-koranism.html


https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-seven-noachide-laws

In view of the strict monotheism of Islam, Muslims were considered as Noachides whereas the status of Christians was a matter of debate.

27:30  Ah, Jules Gomes. I believed him when he was being only satirical about the Trinity and even told everyone about it.  https://www.julesgomes.com/single-post/Church-of-Englands-Synod-may-abolish-Holy-Trinity-to-include-Muslims


29:00  Justin Welby is so theologically ignorant did not even know he was supposed to believe in the Trinity when he said what he did at http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.com/2014/09/what-is-point-of-having-archbishop-of.html


32:00  Getting Muhammad if we do not choose Jesus would be a tragedy, says Gavin Ashenden. Why would it be a "tragedy" to repent from 2000 years of idolatry?


The Jews have a special four step process of admitting errors.  https://www.thoughtco.com/what-is-teshuvah-2076801 It is not too late to repent, repent!

Islamophobic Christians complain bitterly that a programme presented by Mishal Husain was not as Islamophobic as they would like

Jules Gomes: Where Mishal’s Magical Muslim Mystery Tour didn’t go https://t.co/A1ehTI7XkS pic.twitter.com/u4tHnmGBWP

— Conservative Woman (@TheConWom) December 9, 2017

Listen back: this week’s @BBCr4today reports on Muslims in the UK. History, identity, faith in practice https://t.co/2uxq0VdnIa

— Mishal Husain (@MishalHusainBBC) December 6, 2017

Islamophobes at The Conservative Woman hopping mad that @MishalHusainBBC, a Muslim, made none of the anti-Muslim comments that they as Islamophobes would have dearly loved to have made. https://t.co/V9MmzgjLVs

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) December 9, 2017

Why is it a bad thing that there is not "a single woman on the mosque’s nine-member management committee"?

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) December 9, 2017

You do realise that neither the Bible nor the Koran forbid slavery, don't you? Slavery is an institution, like marriage and prostitution and instititutions should be regulated by the state to protect the parties, not criminalised.

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) December 9, 2017

Jihad just means struggle against oppression. If you invade Muslim countries causing hundreds and thousands of deaths, Muslims would understandably feel oppressed and want to retaliate. Is this so hard to understand? Or are you expecting Muslims to turn the other cheek?

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) December 9, 2017

If there is such a thing as a just war, there must logically and necessarily be just acts of terrorism, since terrorism is but a poor man's war, wouldn't you agree? And weren't the Crusades Holy Wars declared by Christians?

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) December 9, 2017

I wonder if your followers are aware that Dr Patrick Sookhdeo whose word you seem to regard as gospel has had a rather chequered history. https://t.co/ZXhLMzt4cn

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) December 9, 2017

You seem disappointed that @MishalHusainBBC had not explored the seamier side of Islam, and not to be ware of the purpose of the programme, which was was to soothe liberals alarmed and upset at Trump's retweets of @JaydaBF's tweets showing Muslims in a particularly bad light.

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) December 9, 2017

Quilliam is certainly right about polygamy, which would have quickly replenished the population of Britain after two disastrous World Wars without Musilim immigration too, ha! Instead however, many women were forced to die childless spinsters.  @MishalHusainBBC

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) December 9, 2017

So what if Muhammad Marmaduke Pickthall was seen as a security risk? The important thing is to ask why and whether this was justified.

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) December 9, 2017

So you actually taught Islam, did you? Where?

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) December 9, 2017

Do tell us more about the visits your Islamic scholar friends have had from "the Islamic Goon Squad" on the issue of variant teachings. What were these variant teachings to which you refer?

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) December 9, 2017

Since you say @MishalHusainBBC has failed to educate us on the merits of this noble tradition of Deobandi-trained clerics in British Islam you were referring to, perhaps you could step into the breach,

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) December 9, 2017

Why are you affecting to be so outraged that "zakat is not usually given to non-Muslims"? Surely charity begins at home?

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) December 9, 2017

Talking about the impossible things that you claim @MishalHusainBBC believes in, isn't the divinity of Christ and the doctrine of the Trinity also "an impossible thing"?

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) December 9, 2017

Dr Jules Gomes: "When I taught Islam, I would preface my lectures by apologising to students and telling them how Islamic scholarship is light years behind biblical scholarship. " https://t.co/D1lKJ01W7y

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) December 9, 2017

This does suggest that Dr Jules Gomes never wanted his students to think well of Islam and only wanted to teach them to be Islamophobes like him. https://t.co/XAvgzqvlKA

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) December 9, 2017

Exposing the truth about Islam that the BBC tried to hide. https://t.co/hgC6amcsCp

— Gavin Ashenden (@gavinashenden) December 9, 2017

You're all just disappointed that it wasn't a hatchet job, because you are just a bunch of Islamophobes.

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) December 9, 2017

What is the truth about Islam? There are a few truths that could be told about Christianity too.

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) December 9, 2017

Bishop Ashenden shakes his head at "the total and utter capitulation" of the Archbishop of Canterbury to the secularists

Who is going to challenge it with what? We already know that our male MPs are too stupid and scared of being accused of historic sexual offence to say anything now.

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) November 25, 2017

Melanie Phillips - in the Times: ‘ The Church of England is sowing the seeds of its own destruction’; re- Lorna Ashworth, Gavin Ashenden and Joshua Sutcliffe.https://t.co/Emae1rkxxY pic.twitter.com/wOg9Q6kdcU

— Gavin Ashenden (@gavinashenden) November 13, 2017

You can tell the subversives who have infiltrated the Church are working themselves round to changing all references to God as He and Him to She and Her.

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) November 25, 2017

Isn't the C of E so hopelessly compromised there is no point in talking about how hopelessly compromised it is?

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) November 25, 2017

Bishop Ashenden says #BlackFriday "sounds very racist to an Englishman". https://t.co/1YOOkk6EwZ

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) November 25, 2017

Anglican clergymen - supposedly steeped in their Judeo-Christian heritage - failed to remember that some accusations are obviously unprovable ab initio and should not have been even entertained. https://t.co/uu67jxBMGV https://t.co/1YOOkk6EwZ

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) November 25, 2017

Bishop Ashenden: The C of E is either covering up its sex scandals or over-reacting over them as a form of virtue signalling. https://t.co/1YOOkk6EwZ

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) November 25, 2017

The established church was created in order to be a Creature of the State, surely? The state is now liberal and the C of E is now a Creature of the Liberal State. Why not discuss why the church had to be separated ie *quarantined* from the church by the Americans? https://t.co/1YOOkk6EwZ

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) November 25, 2017

Bishop Ashenden points out that Justin Welby the Archbishop of Canterbury "big up the secular narrative", which appears to be the only way to keep your job.  If you complained to Henry VIII himself that the C of E was a Creature of the State, do you think he would be surprised? https://t.co/1YOOkk6EwZ

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) November 25, 2017

Bishop Ashenden mentions Cultural Marxism.  Cultural Marxism is Feminism and so is Post-Modernism. Post-Modernism is in fact the Feminist Hegemony that squats over our heads about to open her bowels. https://t.co/1YOOkk6EwZ

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) November 25, 2017

Bishop Ashenden talks about the Archbishop of Cant Justin Welby saying he and other spineless Anglican clergy feel obliged to kowtow to whatever the degenerate voters and MPs vote for eg gay marriage. https://t.co/1YOOkk6EwZ

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) November 25, 2017

Bishop Ashenden paraphrasing the Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby: "If the secularists vote for something, what right has the Church to offer any opinion at all against the Will of Democracy?" https://t.co/QnuV3iblui

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) November 25, 2017

Bishop Ashenden asks of the Archbishop of Cant: "What view of the Church can you possibly have when you believe that it has no prophetic witness at all in speaking on God's behalf to a society that has turned its back on Him because the secularists have outvoted you by 51 to 49?" https://t.co/mwp8Vq76xg

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) November 25, 2017

The Erastian Spirit Bishop Ashenden so disapproves in the Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby  https://t.co/1mOela39jQ https://t.co/V5Q4EJhf89

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) November 25, 2017

Bishop Ashenden denounces "the total and utter capitulation" of the Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby to the secularists. https://t.co/v2pwJyvmWx

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) November 25, 2017

Christianity was so weak that all Cultural Marxism had to do was give it a shove, and it fell over and died. https://t.co/twwcvOlCAX

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) November 25, 2017

Bishop Ashenden: "We appear not to believe in the Kingdom of Heaven strongly enough and so now build a Socialist Utopia on earth." https://t.co/guWczn3LX6

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) November 25, 2017

Bishop Ashenden: You won't even get to be the church if you don't stop them closing you down and therefore you have to speak out to maintain the integrity of being the Church in the public place. Welby doesn't get it and just goes along with the democratic majority." https://t.co/a8x5ziGbvm

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) November 25, 2017

Bishop Ashenden mentions Melanie Phillips' Times article on progressive secularism warning us that it lures you into a cosy alliance, after which it will spit you out and shut you down. The only antidote to that is for the Church to speak out in the public place. https://t.co/wDVtJixG9e

— Claire Khaw (@MinimumSt8) November 25, 2017

But if men speak out, they will invariably be accused of a historic sexual offence against the rule of evidence mentioned in  Deuteronomy 19:15 that these two smug-looking well-fed men did not see fit to remind viewers about.

There would be a presumption of guilt entirely contrary to criminal standard of proof required to find an accused guilty of a crime.

In our stinking matriarchy, the woman is automatically believed, and the man automatically disbelieved.

Did you notice how proud the American was when he announced that his daughter asked him what was for dinner? That cuck was obviously proud that he had a daughter to boss him around. Can we expect such men to defend any principle other than weekly weakly?

When will the Post-Christian acknowledge that Christianity has already failed?

Will they pretend to each other that it does not replacing till the day they die leaving the clueless next generation to pick up the pieces? Looks like it.



1:17:

Melanie Phillips:

"AMERICA IS A JEWISH COUNTRY AND WAS FOUNDED ON JEWISH PRINCIPLES."

America is fundamentally a Jewish country in the way Britain is not.

"The Church of England is basically a con-trick."

Melanie Phillips talks about Church of England from 1:16.

Could Gavin Ashenden be that "turbulent priest" mentioned by Melanie Phillips at 1:21? I asked her who this turbulent priest was and her response was to block me on Twitter.

http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2017/11/melanie-phillips-on-zionism.html