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Showing posts with label Mishal Husain. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Mishal Husain. Show all posts

Tuesday, 20 March 2018

Transcript and commentary of Germaine Greer being interviewed by Mishal Husain on the subject of career rapees #MeToo

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09vyvt2  From 2:21

http://www.howtoacademy.com/conferences/metoo-movement-gone-too-far-debate

Mishal Husain:
The Me Too Movement has gone too far - an assertion that will be debated tonight at an event in London. The writer and feminist professor Germaine Greer will be arguing for the motion.  She has previously said in relation to Harvey Weinstein: "If you spread your legs because he said 'Be nice to me and I'll give you a job in a movie' then that is tantamount to consent and it is too late to start whingeing. She's in our radio car now. Good  morning.  In what way do you think Me Too has gone too far?



 Germaine Greer:


I don't actually think it's gone too far. I don't think it's got anywhere at all. We're still in the situation where you've got a storm of allegations about Weinstein, the collapse of his business and this isn't what we need. What we need is to sort out the law regarding rape and to sort out our concept of what it is, and it is pointless now to bring up all this stuff when with most of it no action will be taken because of the statute of limitations. Why wait 20 years?


Mishal Husain:
The reason why I phrased the question that way is because you will be arguing in favour of the motion that the Me Too Movement has gone too far tonight.
 

Germaine Greer:

Well, that's what the public has been told. I've pleaded with John Gordon not to do that because I don't think it's gone too far and I don't think we should be debating as if we all disagree. What's clear to me is that the law regarding rape does not work and people's concept of what is rape are very confused: some people think it's a crime of violence when violence is not necessarily involved at all.



Mishal Husain:

I want to come to your views on rape in just a moment because I know you are writing a book on that subject at the moment, but let's just stick to the Me Too Movement and what we have learned from that because there is a whole range of behaviours that is being called out under that hashtag and through that movement.  What is the problem with that? Is there any problem with people calling out behaviour that is inappropriate as well as unlawful?



Germaine Greer:

I'm the person who would call it when it happened and wouldn't have been sitting around being quiet and keep a secret which wasn't even a secret when it came to Weinstein, for example. People knew about it. A wire had been used in an interview with an actress who had been with Weinstein which was in the possession of the New York Police. It is extraordinary that the industry kept quiet.



Mishal Husain:

It doesn't mean that everyone who went to see him would have been aware of the existence of a tape like that. What I'm wondering is whether you think there has been something valuable in Me Too encouraging people to do exactly what you say you have always been able to do which is make a fuss about things like that when they happen?



 Germaine Greer:
Do I think it's valuable now? I'm not sure. I thought the Golden Globe's performance where everyone wore black was amazingly stagey and contrived when you've got a real situation. The Me Too name itself comes from a movement that existed from the turn of the century in the South where I think you've got something like 700,000 agricultural workers who'd been seriously sexually assaulted and it's Tarana Burke who invented the name which she then found taken and used for showbiz. There is an aspect of the whole performance which is ballyhoo and Hollywood. The whole thing about it, the whole extraordinary exposure to so many in the case of Weinstein is 84 complainants who had opportunities to speak out some of whom have been paid six figure sums in the form of non-disclosure agreements. That's a dishonourable thing to accept, and it's not something you should boast about. It also happens to be legally binding.



Mishal Husain:

But Me Too is much broader, isn't it, than those 84 accusers of one particular man. It's about women all over the world feeling that they can say things which were previously ignored or for which there were serious repercussions and it has helped them articulate and be listened to.



 Germaine Greer:

Well, I hope that's the case if indeed it is. I'm not sure because what's happened in the case of Weinstein's assistant Zelda Perkins is that she was put through absolute hell when she tried to get some sort of redress, her whole life was taken over, I mean, the amount of legal muscle that will be used to defend these people is massive, and I am concerned for damage limitation rather than maximisation, rather than wrecking people's lives, so they become career rapees, as it were. We have cases which concern rather more, I might say, of what's been happening on American campuses in the last few years and now we have had the Dear Colleague Letter that made it mandatory for universities to investigate complaints of sexual abuse that has been rescinded for the very good reason that it didn't work. None of the things we are doing actually work to protect women from abuse.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/20790/betsy-devos-correct-rescind-dear-colleague-letter-elliott-hamilton

Mishal Husain:

So what are you saying will work then, what are you advocating?



 Germaine Greer:
[Sardonic laugh] That's a good question. Well, I'm actually interested in what's going on, I mean, I'm interested in the fact that Sweden, for example, has a much wider spectrum on sexual abuse than the rest of Europe, but the result is that Sweden has three times the number of rape cases of any country in Europe, of 35 countries in Europe. [Reminder: the sluttier the women, the higher the number of rape complaints. We all know how infamously promiscuous Scandinavian women are too, do we not?]



 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-and-denmark-have-highest-number-of-sexual-assaults-in-europe-a6800901.html

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/jan/05/julian-assange-sex-crimes-anonymity

Mishal Husain:

Are you saying that's a good thing or a bad thing?



 Germaine Greer:

Well, it's not over. We haven't got to a conclusion. We are going to have to examine the whole category of sexual abuse and we are going to have to understand what the relative gravity of these offences is, I mean, what they did on campuses in America was lighten the degree of proof that had to be alleged [Germaine Greer means lower the standard of proof] so it became "the preponderance of evidence by 51%". I don't think you can do that. You can't undermine civil liberties in order to get some sort of a conviction. It won't have any effect on the figures.



Mishal Husain:

When you said recently that "My feeling is that we should ditch rape altogether as a crime because it is hopeless," did you mean that?


 Germaine Greer:

Well, I didn't mean we should make sexual assault legal. The actual crime of rape itself is a medieval survival and it deals with the stealing of a woman from her menfolk. Well, we don't even accept that concept now so now it turns on consent and that means you've got a narrative from the woman, a narrative from the man, and you've got to believe one or the other. Can you put someone away for seven years, or more, depending? The penalties for rape are huge when callous and indifferent treatment of women that is very damaging to their self-esteem is practically universal and certainly diurnal as it happens to all kinds of relationships.



 Mishal Husain:

I'm still not sure what you are actually advocating as rape exists as a crime all over the world and there is a process of evidence that is undertaken in order to establish the principle of consent. What is wrong with that?



 Germaine Greer:

What's wrong with it is that it doesn't work. We work out very few cases in England out of the total number of rape reports ...



 Mishal Husain:
Convictions, you mean.



Germaine Greer:

... a tiny percentage of them. No, no, I mean they don't even get to court, but also rape doesn't occur in the context of court and prison - it's a part of every day life - and we have to understand the way that it works within heterosexual relationships.



Mishal Husain:

[Audibly sighing with relief at the end of this interview that she no longer has to unpick what Germaine Geeer is trying to say for the benefit of listeners or ask "How does rape work within heterosexual relationships?"] Germaine Greer, thank you very much.




MY PROPOSALS ON HOW TO CONDUCT RAPE TRIALS AND WHAT PUNISHMENT TO METe OUT TO WOMEN MAKE MALICIOUS AND FALSE RAPE ACCUSATIONS




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Saturday, 9 December 2017

Islamophobic Christians complain bitterly that a programme presented by Mishal Husain was not as Islamophobic as they would like

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Wednesday, 14 December 2016

BBC agenda to confuse and bore everyone about Aleppo so we will support toppling Assad to not hear his name ever again

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b085nsyk

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The situation in Aleppo is moving fast and the question now is how the UK government can proceed. Crispin Blunt is chair of the foreign affairs select committee and Alison McGovern is co-chair of the All Party Parliamentary Group on Syria.

Mishal Husain:

Aleppo was just a few years ago a flourishing city of two million people, Syria's economic capital built on a heritage of ancient settlements. Today, entire neighbourhoods are nothing but rubble. Many residents are living in appalling conditions. If our MPs could have foreseen that, how would it have affected the decisions of those who voted against intervention in Syria in 2013 in the wake of President Assad's use of chemical weapons. We will be speaking to two MPs who voted against taking military action against the regime in a moment, but first our Middle East editor Jeremy Bowen. When we look back on this time on the fate of Aleppo, Jeremy, will Aleppo make a mockery of the idea of international community if a city is allowed to suffer in this way for so long?

Jeremy Bowen:

I think the concept of an international community in which everybody tries to do the best for everybody else is frankly a nonsense anyway. I think that the West has stepped aside from the mess that's in Syria I think for all kinds of reasons a major one was the feeling that after the lesson taken in the intervention in Iraq in 2013 was that intervention was not going to work and what that has meant for the Western point of view is that there hasn't been any real traction there because the way to get influence in Syria over the last few years is to use force and the West has chosen not to. The Russians, the Iranians, Hezbollah from Lebanon have chosen to do, so they have shaped the environment, if you like. 

Mishal Husain:

Stepped aside, yet as the UN's Staffan de Mistura told us the other day, there are twelve countries involved one way or another and obviously the fight against IS is happening in Syria. 

Jeremy Bowen:

Yes, including Western countries, including Britain, including the United States but they have done it in a rather ill-thought out way. If you compare the Western policies involved in Iraq in the last year or so it's a bit more thought out. It is not thought out in a particularly efficient way in Syria and you know the thing the phrase I keep using about the Syrian war is that it is a mini-World War because so many outside powers are involved including really powerful nations, and that's what makes it so hard to try to deal with because all those countries have their own agendas and they don't all involve Syria. 

Mishal Husain:

Let me turn then to the two MPs who are with us in the studio: Crispin Blunt, Conservative Chair of the Foreign Affairs Select Committee and Labour's Alison McGovern Co-Chair of the All Party Parliamentary Group on Syria. If you had known in 2013 today Aleppo would look as the newspaper pictures and television show us, Alison McGovern, would you have voted differently?

Alison McGovern:

There just isn't a yes/no answer to this because I know that it's extraordinarily doubtful that my vote by itself could have made a profound difference to this situation. Nonetheless, every day I regret perhaps not raising it more and not bringing the Prime Minister back to the House of Commons, not applying more pressure and of course given what's happened you constantly go over and over in your mind what the opportunities were ...

Mishal Husain:

But more pressure to do what? You were given the opportunity to intervene in Syria and you decided against it.

Alison McGovern:

I think if we constantly focus on 2013 important though that it is and I wouldn't dream for a minute of docking any accountability for that but if we constantly focus on that then we're not focusing on Syria now and that's precisely why Andrew Mitchell and I brought the emergency debate to the Commons yesterday. I'm afraid the Foreign Secretary came with very little to say but we could have said was "Here is a strategy to protect civilians", "Here is how we will work with others to get people out, to get aid in however we can and wherever we can and to get accountability and monitoring of some kind, preferably by the UN, but with British monitoring if necessary so that Assad and others know that there will be accountability.

Mishal Husain:

Before we go to talk about what next for Syria, Crispin Blunt, I want to ask you the same question that if you'd been able to see what Aleppo would look like today whether you would have voted differently. 

Crispin Blunt:

No, I think even with the benefit of hindsight I would have voted the same way because the question we were asked was really about disarming the Assad regime of its chemical weapons. The means by which we were going to do that wasn't going to work and in the end it was the Russians that disarmed its ally of chemical weapons because they weren't prepared to have their ally breaching international law ...

Mishal Husain:

Even if chemical weapons were the issue of the moment, it could have brought the regime down but it certainly would have controlled the regime it was able to do .... [sic]

Crispin Blunt:

And then if your mission was then going to take the regime down, then you need to follow through all the following steps and had we evem been prepared to follow all the steps it might now be us in the position of the Russians with the last vestiges of Alawite resistance in the areas they were resisting supporting a Free Syrian Army and finding ourselves precisely in the same position ... [sic]



Mishal Husain:

So it was Iraq that haunted you? Not to end up in a similar position?

Crispin Blunt:

It's the lessons of our intervention over the last two decades that if you're not prepared to will the means all the way through to the end around the consequences you're likely to get what happens after you intervene [sic] then you might be better off not starting in the first place, and if you can't get the international community into the same place around the same strategy then one or two actors in the international community then taking on a strategy on their own is very likely.

Mishal Husain:

Alison McGovern, you were talking about a strategy you want the government to put forward for protecting civilians. On the ground in Aleppo today even the UN can't really be part of monitoring this ceasefire it seems even they are unable to give assurances about the immediate protection of civilians.

Alison McGovern:

Well, quite, and it is a very worrying development that we are seeing this morning where what was last night apparently an evacuation now looks delayed and it's incredibly worrying and we need to put pressure on our government to be asking questions about that but it doesn't end in Aleppo. This won't end in Aleppo. There are besieged people elsewhere in Syria and what makes anyone think Assad will finish this in Aleppo? Where will we be next and what will we do? Will we stand by and watch in exactly the same way as it is done elsewhere [sic] and quite honestly if we allow the international humanitarian law to be shredded in this way, you know, this certainly won't end in Aleppo and which country will be next? I know that people despair of the UN and the international system, don't we all? We're all realists, but what do we stand for if we don't stand for people's right for somebody to care and stand up for them when they're having their basic right to life absolutely obliterated in front of our eyes, then what do we stand for?

Mishal Husain:

Crispin Blunt, what position or what strategy would you like to see the government take on Syria now?

Crispin Blunt:

There was a vestige of hope a year ago when the International Syria Support Group got twenty nations round the table who agreed a plan for Syria that included Russia and America, it included Iran and Saudi Arabia and there was hope because the whole international community of players was signed up to the same strategy. We need to get back to that place ...

Mishal Husain:

Isn't that moment now past?

Crispin Blunt:

That moment has passed and Russia has taken responsibility for her actions and must be held accountable for her actions ... 

Alison McGovern:

That moment hasn't passed. Only recently the Prime Minister agreed with the European Council tha sanctions would be applied to Russia if the situation in Aleppo got worse. The situation in Aleppo got worse and what do we hear from the European Council? Our government didn't even raise sanctions. Well, you know what, there's another European Council at the end of this week so they can raise sanctions then.

Mishal Husain:

Just very briefly, Jeremy Bowen, do you think Russia will stay the course in Syria in terms of the reconstruction or once Assad is in control of the whole country will that be it for them?

Jeremy Bowen:

I think Russia's agenda is about its influence there. Their main thing is to have the top man in Syria on their side and they've got that and they will do what's necessary, I think, to sustain it. On that vote in 2013 the main consequence of that was its effect on the US decision to intervene which while that would not have ended the war it might have made it worse. It changed the war and perhaps dealt a mortal blow to the regime.

This is all a meaningless word salad. What made the most sense was Mishal Husain's questions but the responses were all nonsense.

In 2013 both Alison McGovern and Crispin Blunt voted against military action in Syria.  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23892783

In 2015 both of them voted for military action. http://www.cityam.com/230150/syria-airstrike-vote-heres-how-your-mp-voted 

The most obvious question Mishal Husain did not ask was what happened between 2013 and 2015 to change their minds. 

Do you suspect that the agenda of the BBC is only to appear to explain Syria to us while in fact conspiring to confuse and bore us and refusing to ask obvious questions or make a respectable attempt to elicit coherent answers from MPs?

If you want Western foreign policy explained to you, go directly to  https://www.rt.com/on-air. Do not pass go and do not collect £200.

POINTS TO NOTE ABOUT THE SYRIAN WAR

  1. Being a vassal state of the US, the UK does exactly what the US tells it to do.
  2. The US neocons want Assad toppled to show Russia what's what ie a uni-polar world under the full spectrum domination of the US and who's top dog nation of the world ie the US. 
  3. ISIS are US-paid mercenaries paid to attack whichever country the US pays it to attack.
  4. US and Saudi Arabia are in cahoots together.
  5. Saudi Arabia being Sunni hate Shiite Muslims. 
  6. Assad is Shiite.
  7. ISIS is Sunni-indoctrinated by Saudi Arabia and funded by the US.
  8. The US cannot completely control ISIS but as long as ISIS is attacking Assad, the US is happy.  
  9. ISIS is also attacking Iraq and this the US is not so happy about because Iraq already has a Western puppet in place. 
  10. The Peshmerga are being funded by the US to fight ISIS in Iraq.
  11. The US are now paying two separate groups of mercenaries ie ISIS and the Peshmerga to fight each other. Crazy, isn't it?
  12. Neocon foreign policy is funded by the defence industry in the NATO member states. By bribing key politicians (or hiring them as consultants) in key groups such the Defence Select Committee and Foreign Affairs Select Committee, they control Western foreign policy.
  13. The defence industry is only interested in arms deals which explains why it is so attached to warmongering neocon foreign policy and why the political establishment hate Trump and want to destroy him, because he doesn't want any more stupid wars that result in the death of American soldiers in wars whose purpose no politician can explain properly. 
  14. Crispin Blunt was against military action against Syria in 2013.
  15. Crispin Blunt was for military action against Syria in 2013.
  16. Alison McGovern did the same thing too, but then she's a capricious, incoherent and emotional woman, so there's no point asking her because she probably can't remember anything through the mists of her bleeding heart do-gooding and wearing her heart on her sleeve to show off to her constituents. 
  17. In 9 June 2015 Crispin Blunt because the Chairman of the Foreign Affairs Select Committee.  
  18. In December 2015 Crispin Blunt voted for military action against Syria. 
  19. What does the Foreign Affairs Select Committee do? http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/foreign-affairs-committee/inquiries1/parliament-2015/the-fco-and-uk-arms-exports-inquiry-16-17/ It scrutinises arms exports. 
  20. If you were in the defence industry or are an arms manufacturer, it would be very useful to hire Crispin Blunt as a consultant, wouldn't it?
  21. Would you say that this adequately explains Blunt's change of mind from being a peacenik to being a warmonger?
  22. It is for these reasons that people are dying.
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Saturday, 9 January 2016

When Merkel falls, the EU will disintegrate

The German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, has said the government must consider changes in the law, after a wave of attacks on women in Cologne on New Year's Eve. Dr Andrea Den Boer is a Senior Lecturer in International Relations at the University of Kent and a specialist in gender and international relations and the causes and consequences of violence against women.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06vdzhr

From 1:45

MH:

A large demonstration is expected outside the train station in Cologne today by the anti-Islam group Pegida protesting against assaults on women in the city on New Year's Eve. More than half of the known suspects are asylum seekers and the German Chancellor Angela Merkel says she supports changing the law to make it easier to deport migrants convicted of committing crime. We are joined now from the radio car by Dr Andrea Den Boer, Senior Lecturer in International Relations at the University of Kent. She specialises in gender and the causes and consequences of violence against women. Do you believe yjsy there is a link between large numbers of migrants and crime, particularly crimes against women?

ADB:

This is really a new area for us. I've been doing research on high sex ratio societies for the past 20 years with my colleague Valerie Hudson and what we find in many societies is that this transition of young adult men into having a stake in society is one of the important tasks that every society needs to accomplish, and when you have large numbers of men who aren't able to make that transition through employment, marriage and other types of behaviours then these societies are at risk for high levels of anti-social behaviour including formation of gangs, increased substance abuse, violent crime and in particular crimes against women.

MH:

Which societies have you looked at?

ADB:

We've studied for example China and India where of course you have vast numbers of these types of unattached men who engage in this type of behaviour, so in China for example we are looking at a population of 40 million men without corresponding females in their society and their age group. India - similar sorts of numbers, so in these societies that type of behaviour is very easy to observe. We haven't observed the same kind of behaviour being introduced into democratised societies that had a sex balance, so this is rather a new phenomenon, but it seems clear that the migrants in Germany who are present in such large numbers - up to perhaps one million - predominantly men and predominantly young adult males - they seem to be exhibiting the same type of behaviour that we find in these sorts of gangs and marginalised groups within China, India and other parts of the world.

MH [very carefully, and this is why I love Mishal Husain]:

Does that mean that you don't believe that what appears to have happened in Germany is about the culture or the religion that the migrants have come from?

ADB:

It is not predominantly about their culture or religion, no, because our findings hold cross-nationally: young adult males, especially unattached young adult males, who remain on the margins of societies, monopolise violence in every human society.

MH:

Because they are away from their families? They are outside societal norms?

ADB:

They are outside societal norms. What we don't know about the bachelors, the unattached, or the migrants, rather, in Germany and other parts of Europe is whether they are all single. We don't have statistics on their marital status but it seems as if they do mimic these same sorts of behaviour because they are away from their families and therefore are in that same kind of marginalised position and aren't able to transition in society, aren't able to form the normal relationships that would mitigate these behaviours so they are behaving in that same sort of way - as unattached, marginal men.

MH:

I want to play you a clip that we found when we talked to a Syrian migrant called Hassan. He is in Sweden at the moment. He's been there a few months and here's what he said was the attitude of some of his fellow migrants have about women.

[Hassan's voice:]
I am in Sweden. I can do whatever I like. The government here, what can it do? Send me to prison one year? I spend six months in prison, Six months, out. And the prison is better than the camp. [SARDONIC LAUGH] So there is some people thinking like this.
Dr Den Boer, that does suggest that though that is a part that is circumstantial there may be a part that is cultural: "I am in Sweden now; I can do whatever I like."


ADB:

Well, there is evidence in Germany and in many of the refugee centres young men have made similar sorts of points and in fact the mayors of towns all across Germany have warned parents that they need to be aware of some of these cultural differences that these men are encountering women who are not dressed as modestly as they would have been back in their own countries and this may incite further anti-social behaviour among the men. So this may be a factor in their behaviour we are seeing and one of the things that hasn't been fully reported in the press is the way in which violence against women in Cologne that erupted on New Year's Eve is not the only incident that has occurred in the past year. Similar acts of violence - though on a smaller scale - have been occurring up and down Germany with incidences of violence against women in the refugee centres themselves as well as examples of rape and sexual violence in the wider communities where these centres are found.

INTERVIEW ENDS.

NB:

Three times, Mishal Husain - a Muslim herself - asked "Is it Islam that makes these migrants rapey?" and the answer is NO. Being marginalised, jobless and knowing you will never find a decent woman to marry makes men of all races and religions rapey. When you live on the edge, you take your pleasures as they come and live for the day. If you see a girl you can rape, you rape her, because you might as well, because tomorrow you may be in jail, beaten up or dead.



https://www.rt.com/op-edge/328280-europe-male-dominant-migrant-wave/

A lack of imagination, denial, a hubristic display of compassion to the wrong people, and it results in Merkel's fall from power, the exit of Germany from the EU, and the beginning of the end of liberal hegemony, thank God.

Would any male German politician have done what she did, and opened the floodgates so casually and thoughtlessly? Of course not.

A male German politician would have known it would not go down well at all, either in Germany or Europe. Indeed, even the liberals of Europe were aghast at her (but they self-censored).

Her husband must be a total jerk too, for taking such little interest in politics he didn't remonstrate with her, or having so little influence over her that even if he had remonstrated with her about opening the floodgates of feral migrants into Germany, it had absolutely no effect at all.

It also means, even more sadly, that European leaders are not fit to lead, especially if they are childless female crones like Merkel.

Now, Europe will rediscover why it was considered a good idea for men to have legitimate offspring as well as an heir and a spare, as well as keep women in their place, or they will be inviting the rest of the world and his dog into your home and you will be paying for the hospitality.

Now, Europe will rediscover why a woman has no place being a leader of men.  (What about Maggie Thatcher, you ask? What she did a man should have done, but real men in Britain were already extinct by the time Thatcher came to power in 1979.)

What did this stupid woman think she was doing when she told the migrants to come to Germany? Simon Sheppard would say she was indulging in Affection Beneath. http://www.heretical.com/sgs-2002/wfpim.html

Now, Europe will discover why feminism has gone as far as it can go and must now necessarily retreat or be beaten back like the mad bitch she is.

Now, we will discover if European men are really so spineless, stupid and scared they will let this stupid old crone destroy the EU and destroy Germany.

If and when Merkel is toppled, the EU will break up. The whole fucking liberal project was always on a wing and a prayer anyway.

And if we were to discover that German men will take no action and call her to account for her grave error, the rest of the world will know what to think of Europe and conclude that they are imbeciles and retards, fit only to be invaded and exploited and their women molested.

Will the Americans be crazy enough to have a female President in 2016 though?

Claire Khaw's advice to German men affected by migrants

Justin Webb interviewing two women from Germany about Cologne attacks on New Year's Day 2016

http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/10/21/the-cost-germany-is-paying-for-washingtons-wars/

Soros's ‘European values’ mean losing your national identity – Paul Craig Roberts
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Sunday, 6 December 2015

Mishal Husain: "bombing Syria sounds more about image than what we can achieve"



MPs voted this week to authorize British forces joining airstrikes against Islamic State forces in Syria. General Sir Simon Mayall is former defence advisor to the government on the Middle East and the Prime Minister’s security envoy to Iraq during first half of 2015; Aimen Dean is a former al-Qaeda member who switched to work for MI5 and MI6 in 1998.

Mayall: "A huge demographic bulge of young people" [in the Middle East while the West ages] - demographics is destiny. They have plenty of angry young men prepared to sacrifice life and limb, turbo-charged by their religion.

So this is what ISIS have.

What have we got? Imbeciles in government, and imbecilic senescent voters in denial who don't marry, don't have legitimate children or don't bring up whatever children they have properly, who refuse to sacrifice anything or take any risks unquestioningly swallowing the absurdities the government stuffs down their unresisting throats to justify their atrocities while pretending to believe that Muslims become terrorists for no particular reason other than they are Muslim.

Dean: "ISIS is a symptom, not the cause."

Husain: "This sounds more about image than actually what we can achieve" in response to Mayall saying Britain should "be there" because it is a permanent P5 member, we have a UN Resolution blah blah".

So this is why our government bombs people, is it? And you are OK with this, are you?

We deserve what's coming to us, for bombing people for image reasons and thinking this right and proper while pretending to be horrified and outraged that ISIS are gunning for us.

https://t.co/HgAQI6s7C8 from 1:36


General Wesley Clark: The US will attack 7 countries in 5 years
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Saturday, 28 February 2015

John Sawers another Neocon who thinks Islam should fit in with Western liberal values

Neoconning Sir John Sawers, ex-MI6 chief, warns of Russia 'danger'
Patrick Buchanan challenges the hegemonist vision of US foreign policy and cites warnings from history

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b053rz5c

From 47th minute

Until a few months ago Sir John Sawers was the chief of the Secret Intelligence Service MI6 - he led it for five years - a period which included the beginning of the war in Syria -- a conflict that thousands of fighters from western Europe are thought to have joined. Sir John is now chairman of Macro Advisory Partners - and has been speaking to this programme in his first interview since leaving office.

From 1:34 minute:

There are 'several thousand' individuals in the UK of concern to the security services - that is the assessment of the former chief of the Secret Intelligence Service Sir John Sawers - now Chairman of Macro Advisory Partners - in an interview with this programme. The number raises questions about the tactics used to identify and monitor such individuals. The Conservative MP David Davis is calling today for the emphasis to be on prosecuting rather than disrupting the lives of suspects. We hear again from Sir John Sawers.

MS:

There are several thousand individuals of concern to the security services, that is the assessment of the former chief of the Secret Intelligence Service Sir John Sawers - now Chairman of Macro Advisory Partners. In an interview with this programme he has talked about this number which raises questions about tactics used to identify and monitor such individuals. The Conservative MP David Davis is calling today for the emphasis to be on prosecuting rather than disrupting the lives of suspects, I asked Sir John about the arguments about the treatment of Mohammed Emwazi and Lee Rigby's killer Michael Adebolajo may have played a role in their radicalisation.

Sir John:

In general I think that is a very specious argument. These people draw attention to themselves because of their activity, their participation in extremist and sometimes terrorist circles so of course they draw attention to themselves. But the very idea that being spoken to by MI5 is a radicalising act ...  I think this is a very false and very transparent.

MS:

But there are judgements that these agencies have to make all the time on individuals in deciding whether they are someone you want to try to win over or whether they are someone who will never be on our side and has therefore to be watched very closely at the very least.

Sir John:

That's true. Intelligence Services are there to gather intelligence and so identifying sources are a very high priority but when you can't gather intelligence the second priority is to disrupt and prevent them and deter them from going ahead with plans to go to terrorist camps or mix with extremist circles where they might get weapons training or whatever.

MS:

There's a lot that has been said about how people are radicalised and increasingly now we hear about the Internet perhaps more than anything else. A lot less seems to be understood about why people are being radicalised and why people are being radicalised in Europe in the numbers you are speaking about - several thousand extremists in this country. Why do you think that young British Muslims appear to be vulnerable in this way?

Sir John:

I am not an expert in this area. I headed the Overseas Intelligence Agency MI6 not the Domestic Security Agency MI5,

MS:

But the two have come closer, haven't they?

Sir John:

They have come closer but obviously understanding and penetrating terrorist organisations was what MI6 has been doing. But you ask why people are radicalised. There are two main answers: one is that people in this country are not as integrated as we would like them to be. Other religions whether they are Hindus or Sikhs or Jews are very well-integrated into this country, Muslims are less well-integrated and there are a number of social and economic factors that are related to that. The second problem relates to Islam itself, and there are many competing branches of Islam, there are schisms there: Shia and Sunni, different branches of Shia and Sunni Islam and many of this goes back to interpretations of doctrine and decisions taken in the first century of the religion. The Islamic religion as a whole is not well-geared to reviving and modernising itself so it meets the values and norms of 21st century society so there is a big political challenge which can only be taken up by leaders in the Islamic world.

MS:

And yet it is such a pressing issue for society in this country. For example we ran a poll of opinion this week amongst British Muslims in which 20% said Western liberal society can never be compatible with Islam.

Sir John:

I hope that's not the case. I certainly don't believe it is the case. In many ways the principles of Islam are similar to the principles of Christianity and Judaism. They are three very similar religions which have developed in similar ways but I think the idea that different religions are incompatible is simply not true.

MS:

But if that is the view that is held in that way then surely that is not just a debate for leaders in the Muslim world to sort out. This is a debate we need to have in this country. These are views we need to address in this country.

Sir John:

We do and I agree. The point I was trying to make was that we can't solve the problems inside Islam and if the West tries to it could well be counter-productive. Ultimately, if Islam is to go through some process of modernisation, of resolving some of its historic differences and doing it at a political level rather than a religious level then it has got to come from out of the Islamic world.




Clearly, neither of them have heard of Secular Koranism! It is explained at http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2014/05/secular-koranism.html



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Thursday, 24 April 2008

Questions and Answers about Me, Myself and I

When were you happiest?

When I was last deeply in love.

What is your greatest fear?

My own cowardice.

What is your earliest memory?

Of deciding whether or not to cut myself with a sharp object, expecting it to hurt, doing it anyway, and crying when it hurt. I was an Empiricist then at 5 or 6. Now I am a Rationalist.

Which living person do you most admire?

Mishal Husain - who is as clever as she is beautful.

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Barach Obama for his audacity.

What is the trait you most deplore in yourself?

Sloth

What is the trait you most deplore in others?

Irrational cowardice, preferring to remain ignorant because they would rather not upset themselves.

What was your most embarrassing moment?

There have been so many I have lost count and repressed those memories.

Aside from a property, what’s the most expensive thing you’ve ever bought?

A camera.

What is your most treasured possession?

My tools of communication, memory and reference – computer, TV, camera, mobile, books

Where would you like to live?

Anywhere that feels like home.

Who would play you in the film of your life?

She probably hasn’t been born yet.

What is your most unappealing habit?

Untidiness.

What is your favourite smell?

Curry cooking, the best kind

What is your favourite word?

Pleasure

What is your favourite book?

Flatland by Edwin Abbott

What would you most like to wear to a fancy dress party?

A beard or perhaps a burqa.

Cat or dog?

Cat

What is your guiltiest pleasure?

Admiring myself

To whom would you like to say sorry, and why?

To my parents for being a worry to them and being less than they had hoped.

Which living person do you most despise, and why?

David Cameron, for his smarmy convictionlessness.

Which words or phrase do you most overuse?

“Crikey”

What has been your biggest disappointment?

Myself

If you could go back in time, when would you go?

When Moses parted the Red Sea.

How do you relax?

TV, talking, reading, writing, thinking, which is also “work”.

What song you would you liked played at your funeral?

Je ne regrette rien

What is the most important lesson life has taught you?

That we are our own worst enemy, and that the enemy within is more intractable than the visible enemy. The Muslims talk about “the greater jihad”, ie the greater struggle (with onesef).

Tell us a joke

A couple and their 11 year old daughter with her friend are sitting down to dinner. Daughter asks mother what it is. Mother says it is venison. Daughter asks what venison is. Mother coyly says it is something Daddy occasionally calls her. Daughter thinks for a moment, turns to her friend and says: “I wouldn’t eat it if I were you. It’s a f*cking c*nt.”

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