A REAL FARMERS RESPONSE TO THE MUSH PROMOTED BY THE LONDON BNP by David Jones

David Jones - Independent Nationalist
Todmorden, East Lancashire

London BNP recently ran a candidate in an affluent West London ward, one “David Child”, this candidate is confirmed to have Asperger's Syndrome, and is by all standards of his behaviour unsuited to be a candidate for a nationalist party, below is a synopsis of a long argument in the Facebook group “Exchanging Ideas” between London BNP’s Bob Taylor, Claire Khaw & me.


Gavin Cardy: 
I've grown to like David, and it was a seat we had no chance of winning so well done that man.
And Claire if you knew were BNP and nationalist politics in this GB nation has come from and past candidates you would be more than happy with Mr Child.

Claire Khaw: 
Why would I be happy with a RETARD representing nationalism, Gavin? How many nationalists want to be represented by retard candidates?

Stuart Hamilton:
How many retard candidates want to represent nationalists? I wonder if he truly knew what he was getting himself into.

Bob Taylor:
Would ,Claire and Jeff be happy if they could introduced a policy like, Hitler's T-4 Program?

Claire Khaw:
Do you really not get this, Bob?

I suppose you like pretending that you do not so you can say I want to kill babies again and again and again. But all I will do is repeat that all I propose to do is allow parents to dispose of THEIR OWN unwanted disabled unviable babies.

I am not the only one questioning the wisdom of having the BNP represented by the mentally deficient when it is already considered a party of social retards.

Bob Taylor:
You don't have to call him a 'RETARD'.

David MountainMan Jones:
I call an adult having aspergers syndrome and a brain the capacity of a teenager a retard - sorry I'm old fashioned.

The guy ain't a full shilling is he? And I agree with Claire, nationalists don't want to be represented by people with mental deformities. Michael [another poster, who participated in the conversation, whose comments I have left out], maybe you ought to adopt an Asperger's son if you think they're not that bad.

Bob Taylor:
People don't like a lot of things about people, Dave. It don't mean we should take the piss out of them. Remember, whilst you point you’re finger judging someone, someone is pointing these, judging you. Food for thought their, Dave.

David MountainMan Jones:
Does anybody here want to own up to anything?

Bob Taylor:
Dave, we all pass on some sort of defective gene. That's nature. And when we do, if the result isn’t what we thought it would be then we become what we are. I do, Dave. I want to own up to being a compassionate and caring member of the British National Party.

David MountainMan Jones:
Has the BNP been overrun by fucking Quakers, and I’m a Lancastrian, and I'm an ethnic Ulsterman actually.

Bob Taylor:
Dave, is it against the rules to be a nationalist and hold Compassionate and caring views?

David MountainMan Jones:
Compassionate, Caring? I have met enough people who I twig something not right by spending less than two minutes talking to them, i may not be a shrink but I know a fruitcake when I meet one.

I think anybody with a mental condition that causes them to act asocial to the point where they can't find their own way in life, hold down a job, have normal conversations etc... is retarded, that's my personal viewpoint. A perceptive person can detect it at a glance, even in the body motions.

Claire Khaw:
Austism is a word I hate because it doesn't mean anything. It has been deliberately extended to people who are successful to make it OK. The test of normality should be this then: if you had a daughter and you loved her, would you let her marry such a man?

"Dave, I don't really think for one moment you believe and feel the same way as CK when it comes to killing disabled babies. Your a Yorkshire ffs, English to the bone."

Just to clarify again, because Bob Taylor persists in misrepresenting my position either from malice or the inability to understand a simple point: if I had my way, no one will come to kill your disabled baby, though you have the option of doing so yourself. Bob, do you understand what I mean by "having an option"? It means you can keep it if you want, or dispose of it if you want. Bob obviously does not know about British babies dumped in British canals, especially during the war. Poor man, to not even know his own history and to have no one telling him about these things. At least I have British friends of a certain age who remember these things.

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When I was out “dry stone walling” today a neighbouring farmer from the area stopped by with his Land Rover (up near the top of Blackshaw Head above Todmorden) and as frequently happens, we ended up talking politics this subject came up, responded by saying;

"Some people are genetically sound, some are just trash, you can tell within the first six months usually. Absolutely I agree with your friend - she's dead right, in older times the midwife would not only smother it but have a quiet word and say 'best not to have anymore'."

“It seems you get more sense out of a land-rover window than you do out of the BNP these days”, I replied.

“Ha, yeah! I agree, can these”, he said.

How to become leader of a party you are not a member of

I was asked by Griffin loyalist:

"How can you challenge for the leadership of a party when you ain't even a member of the party?"

I could set up a party that has exactly the same constitution and manifesto as the BNP, but then start making changes from there, to show how it can be done.

The BNP are reduced to thinking that showing they are still breathing, though in a persistent vegetative state and on life support, is the most they can do at the moment.


(This is seen by the fact that the leadership thinks it is OK to field a candidate who has Asperger's Syndrome who in the event  obtained 23 votes votes in Kingston.  Not that UKIP did much better with 56.)

I invite everyone to use their imagination on how things different things would be if I ran the party.

The Eurosceptic movement would be merged into just one non-racist broad church party made up of people who want fewer laws and lower taxes with criminals punished properly and children taught properly.  The country could then be taken by storm.

"My kingdom for a horse" is a Shakespearean refrain that comes to mind.  It is true that politics is a bit like horse-whispering, and I have not been doing terribly well by trying to appeal to their reason.  I must try harder to persuade them that civic nationalism is the only way forward and that civic nationalism can really be quite radical and successful if you are prepared to take risks.

Taking risks is not pretending that butter wouldn't melt in your mouth.  Taking risks is claiming that it will positively SIZZLE.

And this is what I promise: All my policies involve the lowering of taxes and the repeal of hated legislation as well as the condign punishment of criminals.

What is there not to like?

Chris Forster on the collapse of the BNP vote in Kingston

BNP election results don't get much publicity these days.

So here is one from last Thursday 5/7/2012

Grove Ward , Kingston Upon Thames:
David Child  BNP  23 votes (yes twenty three) just 1.1% of the vote.

Six years ago the BNP candidate in neighbouring Richmond was Chris Forster and the vote in Whitton Ward was approaching 600, not 23.

The candidate in a ward in Hammersmith was Steve Tyler with a vote approaching 300.

Election results across the country were texted from regional to group organisers to members and supporters.  Almost weekly results of votes between 15% and 40% were reported and circulated.

Between 2005 and 2010 there was enthusiasm and optimism despite the most horrid leadership style and terrible decision making.  Even though the leadership had consistently remove or forced out decent members who were key players, advances were being made as better people were joining faster than the leader could get rid of them.

Following the 2006 West London results the continued growth was due to the involvement and mutual assistance of so many people in the area ,local groups formed in every West London Borough,

Nick Erickson
Bob Bailey
Chris Forster
John Donnelly
Neil McA
Chris Hurst
Dan Finch
Dave Martin
Mike "Smith"

as organisers, fundholders, then as they helped in other areas it was reciprocated by such as

Bob Gertner
Julian Leppard
Rowena Savage
Brian Wilkes
even Steve Curry

In other words everybody wanted to help everyone else and was encouraged to do so.  Precisely the same type of expansion happened all over England, whether in the West Midlands, Newcastle or Hertfordshire, and to a degree in Wales and Scotland too.

What has happened with the gain of just 23 votes in Kingston?

The answer is simple and obvious, the truth is the forementioned are no longer involved.
There is no organisation.  Griffin and his henchman deliberately and systematically dismantled it when pertinent questions about financial accountability were asked repeatedly and continually.

There are no local volunteers continuing regular activities.

There are no local leaflets printed on digital duplicators.

There are no local meetings.

Who is the London organiser?

Is it still the pornography shop owner Squire?

Is there a London committee?

Precisely the same type of contraction and decline has happened across the land, whether in London, Leeds or Lanarkshire.

I can say for certain that the few remaining members are not even informed of anything that is happening, last week's Kingston election humiliation being an example.

I am not saying that Grove Ward , Kingston, was one of the wards showing most potential a few years ago.  But what I can say is that it is a ward where just a little organisation and effort would see a vote of 100 or about 5%.

Yet even that is no longer possible, that is how hopeless the BNP has become.

Any remaining members really should examine what they are doing and hope to achieve, because they are just wasting time and money continuing under the BNP permanent chairman and the low life undesirables who fill so many of the senior positions in the party.

Chris Forster
Former Sub Regional Organiser

PS      Feel free to forward or post anywhere that you consider may be helpful to the cause of decency, honesty, democracy and national preservation.

BNP crash in Kingston with only 23 votes

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David Child

I have been told:

"He's 29 or so, mind of a 15 year old. Drags his Scottish mother around everywhere. He blinks constantly and just looks out of place anywhere he goes."

One has to wonder at the judgement of the leadership in allowing this man who is known to be autistic to represent the party.   Perhaps the idea is to bring the BNP into more hatred, ridicule and contempt by right-thinking members of society.



The point has been made again that Nick Griffin is a state agent by another contact, because it is the considered view of this former supporter that that the establishment want Nick Griffin firmly in place so he drag the party and its supporters through the mire and discredit nationalists even further to show them for the social retards they are.

As long as their leader is white and male they will follow him to ends of the earth.  Nick Griffin is the pied piper of Hamlin for the nationalist movement, and don't you forget it.

Despicable and contemptible, but there you have it.  He is white and I am not.  He is male and I am not.    If I were white and male they would be begging me to be leader.  But if I were white and male and successful, I would not want the job, especially if I had a wife ....