Rev Richard Coles says Christ is in favour of gay marriage

RC:  It’s funny, I often think Christian ethics can be reduced to the simple injunction to grow up.

CK:  @RevRichardColes thinks Christianity is about supporting #gaymarriage and being generally "gay".

CK:  I mean "gay" in the sense of schoolchildren telling each other not to be so "gay".

CK:  When school children say to each other "Don't be so gay" they mean "don't be so stupid."

CK:  Perhaps Christian ethics should be more than just the bits a gay clergyman likes about the Bible?

CK:  Can you substantiate your view that Christian ethics support #gaymarriage?

CK:  Do Christian ethics support #gaymarriage?

RC:  In my view, yes.

CK:  Christian ethics would be the 10 Commandments, wouldn't it?

RC:  A bit more to it than the decalogue.

CK:  Go on?

RC:  Christinas believe that the Law inherited from Jewish tradition is fulfilled in Jesus Christ. Law + grace.

CK:  What on earth does that mean?

RC:  That the Law is not repudiated by fulfilled with the coming of Jesus and we now live by grace, not Law.

CK:  I would really like to know what you mean by this in plain English.

RC:  Jesus is not the Law, in its rigour and exactness and detail. He is its fulfilment, in his boundless grace.

CK:  How can you 'fulfil' a law if you do not follow it?

RC:  How can a reality be "inaugurated"?

CK:  No idea how reality can be inaugurated in the person of Jesus Christ. Can you give an example?

RC:  there is no other example. It is sui generis.

CK:  You are just talking nonsense then.

CK:  A link explaining how to go about making Christ "inaugurate" a reality would be nice.


RC:  ὥστε εἴ τις ἐν Χριστῷ, καινὴ κτίσις 2 Corinthians 5.17

CK:  http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+5%3A17&version=NIV means NOTHING.

RC:   It’s an epistle, and points to the New Creation in Christ, which may help you with the inauguration thing.

CK:  What is this "New Creation in Christ"?

RC:   New way of living, through the the new relationship we have to God and each other in Christ.

CK:  What was the old way of living?

RC:  A life of atomised individuality, endless competition, anxiety, delusion and futility.

CK:  Are you saying that the Hebrews lived life thus?

CK:  You still haven't explained how and why the Bible supports #gaymarriage.

CK:  You still haven't explained, how the Bible, which condemns sodomy, supports #gaymarriage.

RC:  We could start at Genesis 2.18.

CK:  How does Genesis 2.18 support gay marriage?

RC:  It suggests that it is God’s will that we should not be lonely.

CK:  To not be lonely does not mean "be sodomites and lesbians".

RC:  No, but I think it does mean that to seek to bear the beams of love in our little space might be graceful.

1. Do you think Rev Richard Coles is talking nonsense?  (There is only one correct answer.)
2. How can something said to be an abomination in the Old Testament be endorsed as gay marriage by the Archbishop of Canterbury and Rev Richard Coles who is homosexual?  
3. Does this not amount to sanctifying a sin?  This would be evil, surely?
4. Can the Archbishop of Canterbury give a better account of himself than this?   No, the old cunt actually says active homosexual relationships are "comparable to marriage" in the eyes of God.  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/2512123/Archbishop-of-Canterbury-compares-gay-relationships-to-marriage.html
5. Why doesn't someone ask them what the hell these fucking Commie Pinko Homos in the Anglican Church think they are doing by talking the shit that they do?  Extramarital sex causes degeneracy and all the Abrahamic faiths, which condemn extramarital sex, are Eugenic in purpose and nature.   
6. There is no doubt about the superiority of Judaism.   At least the Lord Chief Rabbi follows his religion because he spoke against gay marriage at  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9352603/Chief-Rabbi-voices-opposition-to-gay-marriage.html
7. Or the superiority of Islam or Sikhism to the cunting prating Commie Pinko shits who are Anglican clergymen and support gay marriage and women bishops.  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/9154043/Muslims-and-Sikhs-attack-Camerons-gay-marriage-plan.html

Feminism AKA Sexual Liberation AKA Free Love AKA casual sex AKA same sex sex AKA tolerance of widespread illegitimacy, spreads degeneracy, as you will already have seen.   

My theological discussion with a gay clergymen who admits he has no firm views about morality except the rightness of gay marriage

Claire Khaw ‏@1party4all
@RevRichardColes @lindasgrant Are you you really not aware that the Bible says #sodomy is a #sin?
8:52 AM - 23 May 12

Richard Coles ‏@RevRichardColes
@1party4all @lindasgrant The sin of Sodom was not gay marriage. It was betrayal of the obligation of hospitality.
8:54 AM - 23 May 12

Claire Khaw ‏@1party4all
@Mad_Pieman @RevRichardColes @lindasgrant Oh, I see. The New Testament supersedes the Old Testament? Why include it in the Bible then?
8:59 AM - 23 May 12

Claire Khaw ‏@1party4all
@RevRichardColes @lindasgrant Are you really saying that God really thinks being inhospitable is a greater sin that being a #sodomite?
9:08 AM - 23 May 12

Richard Coles ‏@RevRichardColes
@1party4all @Mad_Pieman @lindasgrant It is the fulfilment of the Law. Not the repudiation of the Law.
9:17 AM - 23 May 12

Richard Coles ‏@RevRichardColes
@1party4all @lindasgrant A sodomite is someone who offends agains the law of hospitality.
9:18 AM - 23 May 12

Richard Coles ‏@RevRichardColes
@1party4all @Mad_Pieman @lindasgrant I recommend a close study of the teachings of Jesus Christ to help you with this.
9:21 AM - 23 May 12

Claire Khaw ‏@1party4all
@RevRichardColes @Mad_Pieman @lindasgrant Link please about Sodomites being not very good hosts who deserve to die more than #sodomites?
9:22 AM - 23 May 12

Richard Coles ‏@RevRichardColes
@1party4all @lindasgrant Not so much quaint, more a scholarly understanding of sodomite.
9:22 AM - 23 May 12

Claire Khaw ‏@1party4all
@RevRichardColes @lindasgrant Link and evidence for your understanding of #sodomite that no one else has heard of.
 9:23 AM - 23 May 12

Richard Coles ‏@RevRichardColes
@lindasgrant @1party4all @Mad_Pieman Jesus says nothing about homosexuality, and a great deal about love.
9:23 AM - 23 May 12

Claire Khaw ‏@1party4all
@RevRichardColes @lindasgrant @Mad_Pieman Everything in Old Testament superseded by New Testament? Not much morality in New Testament, mate
9:24 AM - 23 May 12 v

Claire Khaw ‏@1party4all
@RevRichardColes @lindasgrant @Mad_Pieman The fact that New Testament says nothing about #morality must suit you down to the ground.
9:25 AM - 23 May 12

Richard Coles ‏@RevRichardColes
@1party4all @lindasgrant here's a place to start: http://www.home.roadrunner.com/~nickgier/sodom.htm
9:32 AM - 23 May 12   [If Nick Gier is gay, then he would say that wouldn't he???]

Paul Frame ‏@PaulFrame85
@1party4all @RevRichardColes @lindasgrant @Mad_Pieman You are a pharisee and I claim my Five pounds.
9:35 AM - 23 May 12

Very interesting, I have been called a Pharisee.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharisees

I am linked with Josephus, a Pharisee I much admire for his definition of a theocracy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theocracy

Josephus understood theocracy as a fourth form of government in which only God and his law is sovereign

I was delighted to discover that Pharisees were "distinguished from other groups prior to the destruction of the Temple was their belief that all Jews had to observe the purity laws (which applied to the Temple service) outside the Temple."

This means I am instinctively a Good Jew, which rather bolsters my claim to be the Messiah of the Jews though I am a female and gentile.  I do have a birthday in the right month to be their Messiah too.

There is a Pharisee in all of us.

Mystery of the Trinity solved (by Claire Khaw of the BNP who supports AV) in a tweet of 78 characters

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Trinity_(Masaccio)

Claire Khaw
@RevRichardColes @canontonymac I wonder if it is possible to discuss the mysteries of the Trinity by Twitter.
16 Apr

@RevRichardColes
Richard Coles
@1party4all @canontonymac There's challenge - the mystery of the trinity in 140 character chunks.
19 Apri


@RevRichardColes @canontonymac "The Trinity is the clear blue water Xtians put between themselves and the Jews." I make that 78 characters.
19 Apri


@RevRichardColes @canontonymac @SundayProgramme @williamcrawley Have explained mystery of Trinity in 78 characters.


@1party4all
Claire Khaw
@RevRichardColes @canontonymac @SundayProgramme @williamcrawley Trinity solved by BNP member.
19 Apri



@1party4all
Claire Khaw
@simon3862 @faisalislam Have explained the mysteries of the Trinity in one tweet of 78 characters. Bet @Phillip_Blond can't do that.
19 Apri


@1party4all
Claire Khaw
@cathynewman Have explained the mysteries of the Trinity in one tweet of 78 characters. Bet @Phillip_Blond can't do that
19 Apri