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Showing posts with label tolerance. Show all posts
Showing posts with label tolerance. Show all posts

Sunday, 27 September 2015

British values/morality v Islamic values/morality

According to Ofsted, 'fundamental British values' are:


  • democracy
  • the rule of law
  • individual liberty
  • mutual respect for and tolerance of those with different faiths and beliefs and for those without faith.


What are Islamic values? Are they necessarily antithetical to British values?

Islamic morality can be defined because its rules of morality can be easily ascertainable by reference to the Koran eg the prohibition of usury, pork, gambling, alcohol, extramarital sex.

British values cannot be similarly established because there is no authoritative book with the title "British Morality For All Time" said to be written by the Greatest Liberal of All Time. Liberals will doubtless be dismayed to know that the Koran is obviously conceptually superior any other idea including liberalism because it is said to be the directly transcribed Word of God.

Islamic morality is intended to be universal and eternal, unlike British morality, which is indistinguishable from British values and British culture. British values were defined under a Conservative government whose leader and Prime Minister legalised gay marriage. British values were only defined British values in response to those who sought to challenge it by asking the government what they were.  The most fundamental British value is of course the right to have extramarital sex, which is now regarded as an inalienable human right. The evil consequences of these values have been described at http://uk.reuters.com/article/2007/11/12/uk-britain-motto-idUKL1256515520071112

In my view, the exercise of defining British values is futile and illogical.  It is illogical to define British values simply because they are bound to change if it is indeed the case that British values means British morality and it is the law's role to limit our immorality. The law changes from time to time and government to government. After a revolution, the morality that emerges is bound to be radically different to the morality that was in existence before the revolution. To advocate the return to pre-revolutionary laws would mean one is a reactionary, or a counter-revolutionary and therefore a security threat to the current regime, with grave consequences for our reputation, career and perhaps liberty and life itself. Even without a revolution, morality changes but more gradually, for example when a Labour government repeals a law passed by a Conservative government or vice versa, or when a Conservative Prime Minister legalises gay marriage.

On the grounds of individual liberty we should of course be allowed to say that the current system of morality is not one we ought to have, give reasons and propose changes which can only be done by changing the law (eg repealing or passing an Act of Parliament) or by changing the government (eg Labour, Conservative, UKIP etc) or indeed changing  the entire system of government (eg from a representative democracy to a Caliphate, dictatorship, one-party state, theocracy etc).

If we cannot do this without being arrested for inviting support for a proscribed organisation under s 12 of the Terrorism Act 2000, as Anjem Choudary was, are even those who articulated and commissioned the declaration of British values breaking their own rules?

If the government is breaking its own rules - the one concerning upholding the rule of law as well as the one about individual liberty (which must surely include freedom of  expression and freedom of belief) - then British values as pronounced by the British government is a sham.  They were only declared so that those who question and challenge it can be demonised as extremists and then categorised as potential terrorists, as a way of intimidating those who are thinking of speaking out as well as punishing those who already have. 

Sunday, 25 March 2012

Why I am really more tolerant and forgiving than people who call themselves liberals


I come from a political family not in the sense that my family occupy positions in government but that they regularly discuss politics and frequently disagree with each other.

Sunday is the day they would all meet at my grandparents house and inevitably politics would be discussed after family gossip has been dealt with.

My parents vote quite differently from each other. I am therefore used to a range of opinion being expressed with varying degrees of fanaticism and reasonableness.

Perhaps this is one of the advantages of a large extended family. You just get used to a wider range of views and human behaviour.

Wednesday, 10 March 2010

The subtext of liberalism

Indiscriminate compassion and endless tolerance of all that is toxic to society is the part and parcel of liberal ideology is an expression of contempt by liberals to those to those less fortunate than they. They can afford to be compassionate, civilised, humane, and tolerant, in their nice houses, leafy surburbs, good schools and low-crime neighbourhoods.

This is the subtext of what a liberal is saying when he or she prates on about tolerance and compassion:

"People like us can afford to prate on about compassion and tolerance! Screw you, you stupid poor f*ckers who have to live cheek by jowl with foreigners you resent for coming here to take the bread out of your mouths, who get mugged, raped, burgled and murdered by vermin, while we liberals say we feel sorry for the PERPETRATORS just to push your face further into the poo!

Yeah, screw you, you POOR sad stupid f*ckers. Eat shit for being stupid and poor.

Eat shit Jamie Bulger's mum while we drink our Champagne of Socialism because we don't live in f*cking Liverpool like so many poor stupid people in the North. What happened to you could never happen to us so we don't care about you.

You vote BNP because you are poor, stupid and working class whom state education has failed and who can't compete with the foreigners. We liberals have kicked away your ladder by destroying grammar schools so poor children do not have access to the chance of a good education but have to go to a the local sink comp where they can be the NEETs, criminals and the single mothers mums of the future.

We do not effectively discourage teenage girls from becoming single mums because we can't be bothered and don't want to seem intolerant and judgemental. We are cowards and hypocrites too in case you hadn't noticed.

We spit and stamp on the heads people like you, Evil Racist Nazi Extremist Fascist Scum who are sad and stupid and scummy enough to be born poor!"


It is the modern version of saying "Let them eat cake."

God behaving badly

1:03:00  CLAIRE  KHAW joins to say God in the Koran is more reasonable than God in the Old Testament, but there is only one Abrahamic God.  ...