Anjem Choudary charged with terrorism offence over support for ISIS - whats the offence?
http://t.co/pmFYVysG2Q
— UK Criminal Law Blog (@uk_criminal_law) August 5, 2015
Anjem Choudary has been sent to prison by the judge until his next bail hearing on the 28th of August #FreeAnjemChoudary
— abdulrahman TN (@TawheedNetwrk) August 5, 2015
@Umm_Isa_ As far as I could tell, Anjem Choudary was very careful not to support terrorism within the meaning of the Terrorism Act 2000.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
To express views that 'validate the legitimacy' of the Caliphate is to "support terrorism" under the Terrorism Act 2000, apparently.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
It is not a crime to carry an IS flag in London but it is a crime to express approval of them? http://t.co/r5LjeoA28g
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
I wonder which one of these videos at https://t.co/yU4KawGwD4 by @anjemchoudary was thought by @cpsuk to "support terrorism"?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
If prosecution fails @anjemchoudary's reputation will be strengthened. If he is convicted that would suggest rule of law not being followed.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
http://t.co/W6f5iwXl63 Won't Anjem Choudary's arrest and trial mean more people will want to view his videos at https://t.co/yU4KawGwD4?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@willingr I wonder if anyone can tell me which video of @anjemchoudary's was considered to support terrorism. pic.twitter.com/ZzHahJvPdL
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@willingr I had been following @anjemchoudary's videos reasonably closely and must have missed the ones that allegedly supported terrorism.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@willingr Why do you think @anjemchoudary is looking so pleased with himself at http://t.co/9o3o9YqTp6?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@kingmenelaos24 @willingr This is about whether a UK citizen has a right to say what @anjemchoudary does.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@willingr @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @kingmenelaos24 As a lawyer @anjemchoudary wd have kept on what he thought was the right side of the law.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@willingr @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @kingmenelaos24 I cannot quite see how @anjemchoudary fell foul of the Terrorism Act 2000. http://t.co/yrgpvTZZ9G
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@kingmenelaos24 @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @willingr @anjemchoudary Supporting terrorism is specifically defined in at s 12. http://t.co/fuIrH4hyWk
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@kingmenelaos24 @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @willingr I don't believe @anjemchoudary is guilty of supporting terrorism as defined in s 12 Terrorism Act
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@kingmenelaos24 @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @willingr I am sure many jihadis go straight to IS without ever having met @anjemchoudary
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@kingmenelaos24 I want to know what Anjem Choudary has said that was considered criminal. No one absolutely supports freedom.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@kingmenelaos24 There is no criminal offence of being a traitor now, is there?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @willingr I know @anjemchoudary has said he would like to join IS but the police have confiscated his passport.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@kingmenelaos24 @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @willingr @anjemchoudary One the much vaunted British values is the rule of law.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@kingmenelaos24 @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @willingr @anjemchoudary As far as I am concerned, rule of law means playing and going by the rules.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@kingmenelaos24 @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @willingr What is not forbidden is allowed. I don't remember @anjemchoudary inviting support for terrorism.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@kingmenelaos24 @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @willingr If you believe in free speech you wd allow people whose views you dislike to express their views.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@kingmenelaos24 @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @willingr @anjemchoudary The free speech of people whose views you dislike is your free speech too.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@kingmenelaos24 @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @willingr @anjemchoudary There is no DEFINITION of traitor. Is a Republican a TRAITOR to the monarchy?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@kingmenelaos24 @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @willingr @anjemchoudary Is a traitor anyone whose views are disliked by whoever is in government?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@kingmenelaos24 @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @willingr @anjemchoudary If you want radical change does this mean you are a traitor?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@kingmenelaos24 When the IRA were bombing Britain, were they traitors? But now Sinn Feinn members are MPs.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@kingmenelaos24 @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @willingr As a lawyer @anjemchoudary would have tried to stay on the right side of the law.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@kingmenelaos24 @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @willingr I follow @anjemchoudary closely and do not remember him saying anything that supported terrorism.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
"@DuncanGardham: Anjem Choudary's charge of inviting support for ISIS relates to individual lectures published online."
— CAGE (@UK_CAGE) August 5, 2015
Was Anjem Choudary arrested for tweeting in a terroristic way? http://t.co/HDQzvL1owt
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@willingr @kingmenelaos24 @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @anjemchoudary Anyone can become Muslim once they decide Islam is better than their ideology.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
Freedom of Expression in the West as seen by Anjem Choudary http://t.co/Gskf9gn9qy
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@willingr @anjemchoudary @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @kingmenelaos24 Western foreign policy causes Muslim terrorism. Why not consider foreign policy?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@willingr @anjemchoudary @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @kingmenelaos24 If you think Muslim terrorism is a problem why not examine its causes?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@willingr @anjemchoudary @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @kingmenelaos24 If Muslims say Western foreign policy causes terrorism, why do you deny that?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
Anjem Choudary protests innocence in court hearing http://t.co/it7MEmrUzV He will be defending himself. Even more fun!
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
UK prosecutors charge Islamic preacher Anjem Choudary w/supporting #IslamicState. He has denied supporting violence http://t.co/eI3EcbRV9h
— AJ Beloff (@aj_beloff) August 5, 2015
Anjem Choudary arrest: Muslim preacher's 5am tweets denouncing Isil air strikes before police swoop http://t.co/QnT7a2slFE
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
Tweeting as @anjemchoudary did at http://t.co/QnT7a2slFE apparently constitutes a crime in Britain. #freespeech
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
In the liberal democracy that is Britain, saying what is apparently undeniable is now a crime. http://t.co/QnT7a2slFE
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@emptybullring Anjem Choudary was arrested for tweets and YouTube videos. #freespeech http://t.co/8V4GrHrHM2
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@emptybullring I have been watching Anjem Choudary's videos fairly attentively, but missed the one in which he told people to join ISIS.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 5, 2015
@willingr @anjemchoudary @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @kingmenelaos24 If Muslim terrorists say X is the reason for their terrorism, why would I deny it?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@willingr @InfoTweepNL The Koran says only defensive wars are ever acceptable, and successful imperial wars.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@InfoTweepNL @willingr The West won't change its imperialistic foreign policy till it is comprehensively defeated.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@InfoTweepNL @willingr We all know that the West has not intention of changing its foreign policy just because Muslims don't like it.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@InfoTweepNL @willingr The West is telling Muslims to suck it up even if they don't like it. This is fighting talk, don't you think?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@willingr If you object to Western foreign policy and see ISIS as the Nemesis of Western Imperialism, you would express approval of ISIS.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@willingr Does expressing approval of ISIS come under the definition of supporting terrorism under section 12 of Terrorism Act 2000?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@willingr @anjemchoudary @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @kingmenelaos24 Muslims are not the only people who have a problem with Western foreign policy.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@willingr @anjemchoudary @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @kingmenelaos24 You think Western foreign is perfectly and flawless, kind and caring?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@willingr @anjemchoudary @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @kingmenelaos24 I think it is perfectly natural for victims of Western imperialism to object to it
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@willingr @InfoTweepNL You just have to be a victim of Western imperialism to object to it. But only Muslims are staging a fightback.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@InfoTweepNL @willingr I do not claim to be a spokesman for Muslims at all. Telling you 2 and 2 make 4 is not being spokesman.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@willingr @InfoTweepNL Do you think Britain acquired its world empire by being nice to others?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@willingr You will find my question at https://t.co/t5mOCYJvFn is exactly the point that will be discussed at the trial of Anjem Choudary.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@willingr @InfoTweepNL No one denies that the reason why Muslim terrorists commit terrorism is that they object to Western foreign policy.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@willingr @anjemchoudary @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @kingmenelaos24 If NATO invades/bombs Iraq/Afghanistan/Libya/Syria it, there wd appear to be a war
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@willingr @anjemchoudary @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @kingmenelaos24 What do Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria have in common? They are all Muslim.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@willingr @anjemchoudary @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @kingmenelaos24 Why are you pretending that the West is not at war with Islam?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@willingr @anjemchoudary @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @kingmenelaos24 Don't you know that war was declared on the West by Islam on 9/11 by Bin Laden?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@InfoTweepNL @willingr Bin Laden's declaration of war on 9/11 against America, Israel and their allies http://t.co/lEQNvaHKie
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@willingr @anjemchoudary @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @kingmenelaos24 How many civilians NATO killed since military action on Iraq/A'stan/Libya/Syria?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@willingr @InfoTweepNL So your view is that Muslims have nothing at all to complain about as regards Western foreign policy?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@willingr @InfoTweepNL So why don't you believe the reason Muslim terrorists commit terrorism is because of Western foreign policy?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@willingr @anjemchoudary @ddaelpmqtjlauw1 @kingmenelaos24 Al Qaeda is a terrorist FRANCHISE to be take taken up at will.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
I bet it was Anjem Choudary's steeds of war video that the CPS thinks infringed s 12 Terrorism Act 2000. http://t.co/daNmnzCSEM
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@willingr @InfoTweepNL APOLOGIST is clearly a meaningless word invented to smear people who merely EXPLAIN the causes of terrorism.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@willingr @InfoTweepNL Islamophobes think just cos they don't mind Western foreign policy they think no one would, even its victims.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@willingr @InfoTweepNL Islamphobes so dumb they think Western foreign policy is so great anyone who doesn't like it must be evil and mad.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@BasimaFaysal @KinngShere I think @anjemchoudary is looking forward to his trial, judging from his smile. pic.twitter.com/UAtBGim8AW
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @RameseesDaGr8 I support the right of all UK citizens to question and challenge UK foreign policy.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @RameseesDaGr8 I happen to think UK foreign policy has been insane for a century. Time to question/challenge it.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @RameseesDaGr8 I don't want anyone prepared to criticise UK foreign policy to be silenced.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@KinngShere @BasimaFaysal At the trial @anjemchoudary will be conducting his own defence. It should be televised to the world.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @RameseesDaGr8 UK citizens should take more an interest in UK foreign policy since we are all potential victims.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @RameseesDaGr8 Can you think of a Muslim other than @anjemchoudary prepared to criticise UK foreign policy?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @RameseesDaGr8 "Muslim terrorism is provoked by Western foreign policy." To be discussed at @anjemchoudary's trial
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @RameseesDaGr8 So, you think Muslim are complaining about nothing when they complain about Western foreign policy?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @RameseesDaGr8 Is looking forward to @anjemchoudary's trial supporting him?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@BasimaFaysal @KinngShere @RameseesDaGr8 So you are happy to equate criticising foreign policy with supporting terrorism? Are you sure?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@BasimaFaysal @KinngShere @RameseesDaGr8 I imagine what @anjemchoudary will say is that he was only criticising Western foreign policy.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@BasimaFaysal @KinngShere If @anjemchoudary is convicted it will be because the court bent the rules to convict him. @RameseesDaGr8
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@BasimaFaysal @KinngShere @anjemchoudary @RameseesDaGr8 s 12 Terrorism Act 2000 defines what it means to support terrorism.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @RameseesDaGr8 @anjemchoudary @iCountu Does criticising UK foreign policy mean you support terrorism?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@BasimaFaysal @KinngShere @anjemchoudary @RameseesDaGr8 If you believe X is wrong, why shouldn't you be allowed to say it?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
UK courts could give Anjem Choudary what he wants most - martyrdom http://t.co/GmSjkHbAdW #UK #UKBiz
— #ukbiz (@ukbizz) August 6, 2015
@PezzoSuarez @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal The trial of @anjemchoudary will decide if he encouraged people to join ISIS.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@ShivahSolomon @BasimaFaysal @KinngShere @iCountu @RameseesDaGr8 @DanHRothschild Free speech of ppl with views u dislike ur free speech too.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
@KinngShere @PezzoSuarez @BasimaFaysal Arresting and trying @anjemchoudary is playing into his hands. He will get huge publicity.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 6, 2015
interesting question about @anjemchoudary arrest is why now? Section 12 been around for donkeys and his ISIS cheerleading hardly new
— Orlando Crowcroft (@ocrowcroft) August 5, 2015
@Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @ShivahSolomon @DanHRothschild Muslim terrorists know Western foreign policy is not going to change.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @ShivahSolomon @DanHRothschild Muslim terrorists know Western voters don't care about foreign policy
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @ShivahSolomon @DanHRothschild When people can't resolve a dispute, violence is inevitable.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @ShivahSolomon @DanHRothschild You expect Muslims to forget about Western foreign policy, don't you?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @ShivahSolomon @DanHRothschild How likely are Muslims going to forget about Western foreign policy?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @ShivahSolomon @DanHRothschild If Muslims invaded Australasia/bombed Britain wd you forget about it?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @ShivahSolomon @DanHRothschild I have been told Lee Rigby's killers considered voting BNP.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @ShivahSolomon @DanHRothschild You may know BNP is the only party with a non-Zionist foreign policy.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @ShivahSolomon @DanHRothschild Choudary wouldn't be dumb enough to incite terrorism.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @ShivahSolomon @DanHRothschild Choudary always mentions the covenant of security in his speeches.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal I can believe Choudary convinced Lee Rigby's killers about the wickedness of Western foreign policy.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal Not everyone who is radicalised goes on to become a terrorist, but all terrorists are radicalised.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal We could both agree that the government is a bad government but would we both agree to overthrow it?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal There is a difference and a gap between reaching a conclusion and acting upon it.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal Anders Breivik reached his conclusions - shared by many - but only he acted on them.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal There will always be those who will take the law into their own hands, and those who wouldn't.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal You can bring a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal I feel sure Choudary would take the greatest care not to do something as crude as inciting terrorism
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@Infidelatron @KinngShere You are in theory closer to becoming a terrorist if you have concluded that nothing short of violence would work.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @ShivahSolomon @DanHRothschild If I thought he had incited terrorism I would be the first to say so.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @ShivahSolomon @DanHRothschild My view: Choudary's tweets/videos don't amount 2 supporting terrorism
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@Infidelatron @KinngShere I know plenty of people who exist in a state of perpetual denial, afraid to even think about their problems.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal When people perceive that they will not get justice they will take the law into their own hands.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@ShivahSolomon @Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @DanHRothschild Western foreign policy is whatever NATO does.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@ShivahSolomon @Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @DanHRothschild Western foreign policy is whatever the US and its vassal states do.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@ShivahSolomon @Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @DanHRothschild Western foreign policy is whatever the Israel lobby gets the US to do
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@ShivahSolomon @Infidelatron @KinngShere @BasimaFaysal @DanHRothschild The Israel lobby controls the US, the US controls NATO/UN/EU.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 7, 2015
@ShivahSolomon @Its_jihadist If @anjemchoudary is convicted it would be evidence HMG ignores the rule of law it claims is British values.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 8, 2015
@ShivahSolomon @Its_jihadist The rule of law: the idea of playing fair, playing by the rules and going by the book. https://t.co/xKJDF2CoXS
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 8, 2015
@ShivahSolomon @Its_jihadist I know @anjemchoudary is seeking to show the British do not believe in British values and break their own rules
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 8, 2015
@ShivahSolomon @Its_jihadist Therefore if @anjemchoudary is convicted, he would demonstrate that the British do not follow the rule of law.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 8, 2015
@ShivahSolomon @Its_jihadist http://t.co/Vgh5Vei0fP All they have on @anjemchoudary is his tweets/YouTube videos. Can you tell which one?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 8, 2015
@ShivahSolomon @Its_jihadist Layman can't tell at all which @anjemchoudary tweets/YouTube videos constitute inviting support for terrorism.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 8, 2015
@ShivahSolomon @Its_jihadist Do u hv to be a lawyer to find that @anjemchoudary's tweets/videos amount to "inviting support for terrorism"?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) August 8, 2015
