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Saturday, 10 June 2017

Claire Khaw described as "timid" by the Liberty Belles

https://femalefedupwithfeminism.wordpress.com/2017/06/10/being-targeted-by-hope-not-hate/

Elizabeth Hobson complaining about Hope Not Hate:

I was warned about how people with views like mine are targeted and harassed.

Is being written about in unflattering terms "being targeted and harassed"?

I, personally, would not say so. Indeed, I would say that the writer is guilty of exaggeration to draw attention to her victimhood - a feminine trait.

someone has clearly decided that it’s time make sure we are silenced before the public has a chance to hear what we actually think.

Who is silencing her?

It is clear that for him to be publicly supported by women is something that leftist ideologues must avoid at all costs.

I would have used "discourage" for "avoid".

we are branded ‘far-right extremists’ without one single example of our views being put forward as evidence for this.

Lawerence chose his words quite carefully.
"L4DP founder member Elizabeth Hobson is a vocal supporter of Davies and has shared platforms with some of the most prominent extreme-right figures active in the UK and overseas."

"Raymond was seen entering an Extremist Club meeting in April, which was addressed by veteran anti-feminist and Nazi-apologist Claire Khaw, who was due to speak on the importance of establishing a one-party theocracy in the UK to eradicate the “matriarchy”."

I did not mention the Extremists Club at all to David Lawerence.
When asked the extent of my involvement and previous interactions with the Liberty Belles, I distanced myself from the ridiculous campaign to ban male circumcision as an expression of unstated antisemitism and Islamophobia and said I was due to have a debate with Natty Kadifa about my proposal for a one party theocracy to eradicate feminism and overthrow the matriarchy.
I repeat: I did *not* mention the Extremists Club.

The words used by Lawerence should give you enough of an indication that your being seen entering an Extremist Club meeting was nothing to do with me:
Raymond was seen entering an Extremist Club meeting in April, which was addressed by veteran anti-feminist and Nazi-apologist Claire Khaw, who was due to speak on the importance of establishing a one-party theocracy in the UK to eradicate the “matriarchy”.

http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2017/06/according-to-left-social-conservatism.html

I do after all propose a one party theocracy. Natty was at my talk last Tuesday.
3 May at 19:03 

A reasonably careful reading of Natty's post on 3 May 2017 would have revealed this piece of information.

MY EMAIL COMMUNICATIONS WITH DAVID LAWERENCE

Wednesday, 31 May 2017, 13:40
From: David Lawerence

Dear Claire Khaw

Could you please clarify the extent of your invovlement with the group the Liberty Belles?

Yours sincerely

David Lawrence
Researcher
HOPE not hate

Wednesday, May 31, 2017 12:46:13 AM
To: David Lawerence
They want nothing to do with me, predictably!



Thursday, 1 June 2017, 10:06
From: David Lawerence

Thank you Claire.

Could you specify the nature of your previous interractions with members of the group?

Regards
David

Thursday, 1 June 2017, 10:24
To: David Lawerence

I have taken great care to distance myself from their campaign to ban male circumcision on the grounds that it is antisemitic, Islamophobic, hypocritical and a distraction from the message of anti-feminism. 

http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2017/02/the-proposal-to-ban-male-circumcision.html  

Natty Kadifa said she would debate me last month, but this has yet to take place.

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I am now accused of the Liberty Belles of being "timid". In fact, I am still keen to have a debate while Natty is making her excuses and has blocked me.

10 June 2017
Natty Kadifa
Natty Kadifa Claire, you blew your chance to have this debate when you started being a horrible bitch in our private conversation.

So I'm not interested in debating you.

It's not because of your strong views you are told to piss off, by various people, it is because you are a bully.

Sociopathic characteristics even.

Keep hating on us if you must. But I've kept my views about you in the open.

I'll be blocking you now.
Claire Khaw
Claire Khaw How have I bullied you or anyone else?
Claire Khaw
Claire Khaw I knew you would find some excuse to back out of this debate.
Claire Khaw
Claire Khaw In what way have I displayed "sociopathic characteristics"?
Natty Kadifa
Natty Kadifa Doth protest too much me thinks

Lol
Claire Khaw
Claire Khaw Please tell the others what it was that I said to you in our private conversation that you found so intolerable.


THE PRIVATE CONVERSATION

 3 JUNE 01:10

Natty
did you set up this article?
http://hopenothate.org.uk/2017/06/02/tory-politician-links-extreme-far-right/

3 JUNE 07:26

Claire
Of course I didn't set it up.
Setting up something suggests I initiated the article by getting in touch with HnH. They did however get in touch with me and asked me if I ever had any contact with the Liberty Belles. I said they wanted nothing to do with me.

Natty
So you told them that I met you ?

Claire
Yes. [I said yes, but actually, I didn't say that in my email response to David Lawerence, although our meeting was mentioned at http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2017/06/according-to-left-social-conservatism.html also referred to above.]

Natty
Why do I think you contacted them?

Claire
Why would I?

Natty
If you told them we don't want anything to do with you. Then some evidence would be nice. They don't mention that what So ever

Claire
I am not going to lie when asked a direct follow up question.
I hardly gave them the impression we are best mates.

Natty
Is this by email?

Claire
The article said you went to a meeting at which I was speaking, which was quite restrained of them.
Yes, they approached me by email.

Natty
I've asked them to remove the blatant lie

Claire
What blatant lie?
It was your YouTube interview with Philip Davies  that let the cat out of the bag.
I am associated with antifeminism and I did blog about my position on male circumcision so that was why they came to me, I guess.
Liz giving a talk at the infamous London Forum was the worst thing you guys did in publicity terms, but I was nothing to do with that.
So if anyone is blaming you for being at a meeting I was also at, that was a drop in the ocean of bad publicity compared to Liz speaking at the London Forum.
What blatant lie are you referring to?
You yourself have told me Liberty Belles want nothing to do with me. Is that the "blatant lie" you are on about?
Are you accusing me of telling a "blatant lie"?
If so please state the lie you think I told so we both know what we are talking about.
3 JUNE 09:25

Natty
Not you
The lie that they asked us to comment

Claire
Comment on what?
Oh, comment on it before it was published?

Natty
In the article it says that we declined to comment
They never asked us

Claire
I knew Liz speaking at the London Forum would bite you guys on the bum as soon as I saw it.
I hope you are going to strike while the iron's hot.
After the election nobody's going to care.
How did it go on Wednesday?

Natty
Strike with what exactly?

Claire
Have the debate before polling day, obviously.
That was what I was suggesting all along.

Natty
You don't get it do you?
We are not in this for short term controversy
Even though I like controversy lol but that's not the point of the l4pd

Claire
You are missing an opportunity, but your attitude does not surprise me at all.
You did media studies, didn't you?
You are going to wait till all this quietens down, and start again, when nobody will care.
Philip Davies will never speak to you again now.

Natty
Why would a debate with you be worth anything
Seriously
Only people in our circles would care

Claire
Why would you *not* want the publicity?
What did they teach at media studies anyway? How to *avoid* publicity?

Natty
My point is that you won't bring any lol
Lol what on earth

Claire
You are easily put off, aren't you?
It is a real opportunity, but you are going to ignore it. Typical.

Natty
You completely overestimate that people care what you have to say p

Claire
You are going to say something boring when nobody cares again.

Natty
What opportunity?

Claire
They will care about feminism and Philip Davies from now till 8 June.
So weird you can't see it.

Natty
And what exactly would a debate with YOU with
I never said I can't see that
Lol

Claire
I assume you want the Liberty Belles to be better known.

Natty
I said Why on earth would we want to do it with you
Not until we have actual content

Claire
I suppose if you did that Belinda Brown would run away, and that's what you're afraid of.
Of course she would run away.

Natty
No lol

Claire
If she hasn't run away by now.
Have you spoken to her, or is she not taking your calls?

Natty
Lol
Your such a sociopath

Claire
Wright and Kitkiss will have run away.
How am I a sociopath? I know what will happen.

Natty
Look at you, getting off on the thought of breaking up the group
Does it make you smile?

Claire
How have I broken up the group?

Natty
That. No one cares about you
No lol you think that's going to happen
Lol

Claire
I am just telling you what would give Liberty Belles the most publicity.
And what to expect.

Natty
Sorry Why would it be a good thing to have publicity with you
Unless it is to point out how much I think you are too authoritarian
No one outside of our circles would care

Claire
Yes, point out whatever you want to point out.
And give your side of the story, obviously.

Natty
No one else would care

Claire
And you're going to pass up the opportunity.

Natty
Lol

Claire
Yes, they would. People gunning for PD [Philip Davies] would.

Natty
Right

Claire
The Tory Party would, the international media would.
But you're not going to do it because you're scared.

Natty
The Tory party wouldn't care
No because no one cares

Claire
Of course they would. They wouldn't want to lose a seat.
You just don't want to do it because you are scared.

Natty
Lol

Claire
So no one cares, then nothing happens.
You have nothing to lose.

Natty
And What would happen

Claire
Who knows.
Just do it and then upload it or not.
At least fucking do it.
Do it and then decide what you are going to do with it, instead of not doing it at all.
This is so basic, I can't believe I have to tell you this.
Right, you go discuss it with someone whose opinion you respect.
Not Belinda Brown because she won't be taking your calls!
Kitsis is gone!
So is Wright. Foregone conclusion.
Talk later, Natty.

Natty
Lol
Your strategy of bullying me isn't working me Claire
Bullying isn't the right word

Claire
Bullying?!

Natty
What is the right word?

Claire
I would describe what I am doing as EXHORTATION.

Natty
I duno...Is it...middle aged.attention whore who can't make her own valuable content?
Who has to bait others trying to do something?

Claire
Just giving you my objective advice if you want publicity for antifeminism.
But it seems you don't.

Natty
I have such a glutton the for conflict I'm my own worst enemy by being intrigued by you lol
Yes I understand that

Claire
"All publicity is good publicity" if you have a cause.
Even bad publicity is just the opportunity to correct misconceptions.
The worst thing is silence, when people refusing to even ask questions. You just got somewhere, but you want it the interest to die down so you can start from scratch again. Pathetic.

Natty
I agree
And we haven't given silence

Claire
What do you mean you haven't "given silence"?

Natty
We commented about it already
You are quite nasty
I thought you might be useful. But your just an abusive ass hole

Claire
Commented on what?

Natty
Don't message me anymore
I'm not interested in you trying to manipulate me

Claire
Ah yes. Pretend to be offended and then disengage. Gotcha.
I am presenting you with facts and rational arguments. I am sorry you find them unanswerable and have to pretend they are abuse.  Very feminine though!

Natty
I'm. Not offend lol
I just think you really shoot yourself in the foot
I had agreed to do something with you and then you go and do this

Claire
Do WHAT?

Natty
And then try and manipulate me by inferring I'll loose the group

Claire
What did I do?

Natty
Your the dark triad version of feminine
Your like the black widow who eats her man

Claire
Are you accusing me of murder now?

Natty
Not literally

Claire
You are getting hysterical, aren't you?

Natty
Like symbolically
Omg

Claire
You will be accusing me of witchcraft next.

Natty
Lol
Nope
Self awareness isn't your strong suite I get it
I ain't doing this debate with you at all
And I most certainly wasn't going to do it before the election
And all your tactics of trying to piss me off ain't working
So, kindly piss off
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Thursday, 26 March 2015

Beta male antifeminist Mike Buchanan continues with his tactic of not engaging with Claire Khaw




Q.   Are you sure you are going about getting Mike Buchanan of J4MB to engage with you in the right way by insulting him daily?

A.  It would make no difference because that charmless petty little man with no imagination was never going to engage with me or anyone else.

Q.   Are you sure Mike Buchanan would have been just as dismissive of anyone else as he was of you?

A.   https://twitter.com/MikeBuchanan11/status/579021878779645952 is an example of how dismissive he is of anyone whose views he disagrees with. I actually don't know what he is on about because he hasn't bothered to explain his arguments but this kind of behaviour is typical in an arrogant petty little man with no leadership skills and no imagination.

Q.  How constructive do you think you are being by insulting Mike Buchanan and his beta male followers as often as you do?

A.  It is more constructive reminding them of their folly than giving up on antifeminism altogether. Even if these pathetic gutless beta male fuckers never listen to me it will at least be on record that I said loud and clear and lots of times that they are going about challenging feminism the wrong way.

Q.  How are you going about challenging feminism in the right way if no one listens to you either?

A.  I am saying that I will become unignorable if Mike Buchanan accepts my assistance ie to tweet on behalf of J4MB.

Q.  How will Mike Buchanan announcing that Claire Khaw is tweeting on behalf of J4MB help the cause of antifeminism?

A.  Because it is an interesting story that the media would be curious about in spite of themselves.

Q.  If Mike Buchanan were to announce that Claire Khaw is tweeting on behalf of J4MB, what do you hope the media will do?

A.  They would want to know why Mike Buchanan has chosen to accept my help, of course.

Q.  What do you hope Mike Buchanan would say if asked by the media why he has chosen to accept your help?

A.  He would be saying that I was right after all, however detestable my ideas and diagnosis.

Q.  What's in it for Mike Buchanan to say that you were right after the way you have been insulting him for so long?

A.   If he really wanted to defeat antifeminism, he would do whatever is necessary including acknowledge that my ideas that he finds so detestable are in fact correct and necessary to defeat feminism.

Q.   Have you drafted a press release for Mike Buchanan if and when he announces that he is letting you tweet on behalf of J4MB?

A.   He could just tweet "I have finally decided to let Claire Khaw tweet on behalf of J4MB. Please direct any questions you have on the matter to her." It really is that simple.

Q.   What would be the qualities necessary for Mike Buchanan to possess to do as you hope and accept your offer of assistance? Honour and humility.

A.   It would be honourable for him to stand aside for someone better able to fight feminism if he acknowledges the truth that I am in a position to do it.
He would have to have the virtue of humility to acknowledge that I am the better leader for all sorts of reasons ie my personal qualities and the current political environment. It is because of who I am that would make me a more striking figure for antifeminism than he ever will be.

Q.   What is the "current political environment" you mention that puts you in a better position than Mike Buchanan to challenge feminism?

A.   The fact that I am not male and white, of course. All men are lower than sluts in the West and Mike Buchanan is definitely a beta male. As a female and a foreigner, my position and people's perception of me would make me a more effective campaigner against antifeminism than any or even all of the beta males of Britain.

Q.   What would you say are your personal qualities that make you better able to lead in antifeminism than Mike Buchanan?

A.  The fact that I am female with alpha male leadership qualities and non-white. The cognitive dissonance the fact that I am not white and not male induces would make the media take an interest in me and the cause I promote, in spite of themselves. It is entirely understandable that despised beta males like Mike Buchanan would be complaining about feminism, but they cannot get round their heads why someone in my position - not male and not white - would wish to do so.

Q.   Mike Buchanan's position would be diminished if he allowed you to tweet on behalf of J4MB and yours would be enhanced. Can you think of anything that might induce him to suffer such a loss of status only to enhance yours other than for the good of the cause?

A.   If I am successful in challenging and defeating feminism, Mike Buchanan would of course be credited with having the wisdom, honour and humility to allow the cause of antifeminism to be led by me.

Q.   Why don't you give Mike Buchanan a call?

A.   I know the petty little man would only delight in putting the phone down so it would be a waste of time. I have however emailed him to show willingness to enter into negotiations.

Q.   What did you say in your email to Mike Buchanan?

To: Mike Buchanan
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2015, 11:04
Subject: My formal offer to assist you in your General Election campaign
http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2015/03/claire-khaw-offers-to-stand-as.html
Hi Mike
I thought I would let you know that I am serious about this proposal and await your response.
Regards
Claire Khaw

Q.   Have you tried getting Mike Buchanan's followers to prevail upon him to stand aside for you?

A.   The trouble with being a beta male follower of Mike Buchanan is that beta males lack confidence, are risk-averse and give up easily. Even if they wanted to help they would be too weak, scared or stupid to know how to persuade him to stand aside or accept my offer of help.

Q.   Why do you think these contemptible creatures in J4MB who are women with penis extensions worth taking any trouble over?

A.   I don't do it because I respect or like these pathetic beta males who are too intellectually and morally crippled to be capable of acknowledging the truth of what I say, I just do it because I know the only way to get people to change their minds is to explain things clearly to people who don't want to hear what you say or do what you suggest. It is a test of my understanding of politics and psychology to know which buttons to press and leave his followers in no doubt as to why I am better fitted to lead antifeminism than Mike Buchanan. I have started so I will finish.

Q.   Do you think Mike Buchanan is afraid of you?
A.   Yes, but he should face his fear and at least be man enough to discuss things properly.
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Wednesday, 18 March 2015

Beta males like Mike Buchanan cannot win the fight against feminism


How many middle-aged men need HRT?


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Friday, 13 March 2015

Mike Buchanan's virile antifeminist blue van can do 140 mph on the motorway and overtake a Ferrari




From 5:55

Mike Buchanan is standing as Ashfield's first antifeminist prospective parliamentary candidate.

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