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Showing posts with label Roshanara Choudhry. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Roshanara Choudhry. Show all posts

Wednesday, 17 November 2010

Asghar Bukhari of MPAC defriends me for saying Muslims MUST and SHOULD continue to protest offensively against the war

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asghar_Bukhari

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Public_Affairs_Committee_UK

Asghar Bukhari has defriended me on Facebook because I said that anti-war protests must necessarily be offensive to work and that Muslims Against Crusaders  were doing a good job really.  No pain, no gain and all that.  

I suggested that MAC would do better for themselves if they pretended they cared about white working class British soldiers being sent to Afghanistan to die for Israel, Bush, Blair, Brown and Cameron and all the warmongering MPs who voted to invade Iraq and Afghanistan.  Instead of the MAC calling British soldiers murderers, rapists etc who deserve to roast in hell, they should instead express their deep concern that these soldiers are dying for a lost and dishonorable cause which is in any case against the British National Interest and invite the BNP to join them in protesting against the war. 

It could be pointed out to the Wootton Bassetters by MAC in slightly more emollient tones that dying in a dishonorable and disgraceful unwinnable war is far far worse than converting to Islam in prison after having been court martialled for mutinying.. 



Asghar response was:

"Claire what are you on about? If you think that faking it is the best wat forward you have serious problems."
and then he defriended me without waiting for an answer. 

I just wonder what's so wrong about that though.

Understandably Muslims are nervous about being hated even more than they are already, but if the war carries on and the MAC carry on the way they have been doing, the hatred against Muslims would rage more ferociously anyway. 

It does seem that Roshanara Choudhry (is she any relation of Anjem's, I wonder?) has probably done us all a favour by stabbing Stephen Timms.  If more of them are stabbed, this would make it more likely for for MPs who voted for the war at


http://www.naba.org.uk/CONTENT/TheAssociation/Parliament/MPs_Vote_War_on_Iraq.pdf

to express remorse, regret and recant, like Clare Short.

Once enough of them do - whether out of genuine remorse or because they fear for their lives - our boys will be home sooner with less loss of life.  Once the war ends, there will be no more Wootton Bassett coffin drive-bys for the MAC to attend in order to provoke the local populace, and Muslims will not be quite so hated. 

Will someone please tell me exactly what is wrong with this piece reasoning?

Sometimes you have to keep pushing at something until it gives.  Half measures are just a waste of time.

Friday, 5 November 2010

Why should politicians who vote to invade another country be surprised at a violent reaction?

http://www.naba.org.uk/CONTENT/TheAssociation/Parliament/MPs_Vote_War_on_Iraq.pdf
lists all the MPs who voted to invade Iraq.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/latest/2010/11/02/murder-bid-woman-had-list-of-mps-115875-22685471/

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/209683/Muslim-hate-website-must-remove-list-of-pro-war-MPs-/

http://www.revolutionmuslim.com/
is where the list of MPs who voted to invade Iraq was said to be found, along with instructions on how to meet your MP at surgery and where to buy knives, presumably to facilitate the stabbing thereof.  But I couldn't find it. 

At least Ms Choudhry exhibited thought processes that followed a certain logic: you hate the war, so you punish the people who started the violence in the only way they can understand: with violence in return.

MPs who have so far not been stabbed and do not wish to be stabbed by their Muslim constituents for the disastrous, disgraceful,  unwinnable and unpopular war that they voted for could always publicly recant, express their deep remorse, and perhaps explain the circumstances under which they came to make their regrettable decision.

Perhaps they had their arms twisted by their party whips?

You should write to and demand that your MP support Peter Bone's House of Commons Disqualification Act.  If they do not you will know what to think of them and withhold your vote accordingly at the next election.  


http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2010-11/houseofcommonsdisqualificationamendment.html
contains details of the Bill. 

http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.com/2010/10/peter-bone-mps-proposal-to-abolish.html

I am thinking of commissioning a poll with YouGov on the following lines:

  1. Do you think the quality of democracy in this country could be improved? 
  2. Do you think the reason why politicians are so cowardly and hypocritical is because they are frightened of being demoted by their leader? 
  3. Do you think the reason why they are so unpopular is because they are perceived as cowardly and hypocritical? 
  4. Would you be prepared to assist them in becoming less cowardly and hypocritical by sending a letter to your MP demanding that he help himself and his constituents by supporting Peter Bone's Bill?  (This Bill proposes to abolish the position of the party whip.)
  5.  Do you know what a whip does to an MP when he is required to make him vote against his principles and conscience and vote as his or her leader demands?  
  6. Do you know that the tactics involved in making this recalcitrant MP vote as the leader would wish amounts to blackmail and threats? 
  7. Do you think an MP who is vulnerable to threats and blackmail is in a position to serve your interests and the nation's? 
  8. Do you think an MP free from threats and blackmail would be in a better position to serve your interests and the nation's? 
  9. Did you approve of the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan? 
  10. Were you aware that the whips were used to blackmail or threaten to make MPs vote as the leader of their party wished and against their better judgment? 
  11. Do you think your MP should support Peter Bone's House of Commons Disqualification Bill?

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