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Showing posts with label MPACUK. Show all posts

Sunday, 8 February 2015

Asghar Bukhari and Claire Khaw photographed together holding up our index finger signifying One God

https://concretemilkshake.wordpress.com/2015/01/06/the-islamists-at-mpacuk/

I was mentioned in the following terms in this post of 6 January 2015:

Here is [Asghar Bukhari] on 22 July 2012 posing for a photo in the dubious company of Claire Khaw, the political blogger and former BNP member who was expelled for advocating infanticide against disabled children:

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It would be unfair of me to assume that Bukhari was aware of exactly who this person is when she presumably approached him out of the blue and asked that he pose for a photo with her. It would also be unfair of me to imply some kind of guilt by association, but since I’m blocked from contacting him on Twitter I’ll have to leave it up to somebody else to ask him whether he knows this woman personally and agrees with her views.




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Monday, 30 September 2013

The wisest thing a BNP member said about Muslims and Islamophobia after attending an MPACUK conference

Asghar Bukhari



http://www.mpacuk.org/story/020913/what-missing-muslim-story.html

http://www.mpacuk.org/story/020913/how-did-our-ummah-go-greatness-genocide.html

Jeffrey Marshall of the BNP:

"The pretence that Muslims and left-lberals see eye to eye is really a nauseating conceit. Islamists are basically conservative (they would have to be if they followed the Koran) and they should openly support family values - not just keep their mouths shut over things like gay marriage. 

One bad impression I got from MPACUK's recent meeting in Barking was that Muslims are really only concerned for their own interests as a kind of pressure group - in this respect they are no different from Stonewall or feminists or Scottish Nationalists. Just as long as their interests are protected they don't much care what others do. 

It is almost as though they don't really see this as their own country - which is not really surprising, I guess. However, nationalists are at least concerned with the state of our nation as a whole. If Muslims were to be less concerned only with themselves, they could help us rebuild a decent country."

This is how I see it:


  1. Feminism is against religion, because religion is patriarchal.  Have you noticed that Judaism is a bit racist, or that Christianity and Islam are just a bit sexist and homophobic?  
  2. Feminism is also against Nationalism, because Nationalism is patriarchal.  
  3. Feminism is against social conservatism, because it promotes female promiscuity. 
  4. Social conservatism is now so marginalised it only exists fitfully in the BNP and UKIP and is constantly being salami-sliced away by their cowardly leaders.  
  5. The BNP and UKIP are afraid to question or criticise feminism because they fear alienating half their potential voters.  
  6. Most British women are sluts ie fornicatresses who have extramarital sex and most British men are MCSFs  (Morally-Compromised Slut Fuckers).  This makes the children of these sluts and MCSFs bastards.  You cannot do much with people like that without a rigorous and radical programme of moral regeneration, and this would probably involve something as revolutionary as an Islamic Revolution.  
  7. MPACUK ought to promote Secular Koranism (ie the idea of infusing the UK legal system with Koranic principles without converting a single soul and leaving the judiciary who do not have to be Muslim to interpret the laws), but they fear to tread in the territory of Anjem Choudary who commends Sharia law to the horrified British.  
  8. Most Muslims are afraid to challenge feminism because they fear being hated more than they are already.  
  9. The Sacred Cows of the British are: (a) The Welfare State (b) Feminism (c) SSMs https://www.facebook.com/pages/Are-Spinster-Single-Mums-a-burden-on-the-state/417696111659379 
  10. Even now men fear to read Simon Sheppard's Sex and Power available at http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sex-Power-Manual-Male-Female-Relations/dp/190124024X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1380704391&sr=1-1&keywords=simon+sheppard+sex+and+power which is the male equivalent of The Female Eunuch explaining their oppression.  
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Sunday, 27 February 2011

Claire Khaw disabled from commenting on the MPACUK Facebook page without explanation or warning

http://www.facebook.com/mpacuk.org?ref=ts#!/mpacuk.org?v=wall

I wonder what they have to say for themselves.  Are they becoming part of the liberal establishment and exercising their right to censor everything that they disagree with, without feeling obliged to give warning or explanation, just like the Today Programme Facebook page?

I think the Muslims are integrating awfully well into the hypocrisy and cowardice of the Liberal establishment.

I have asked Asghar Bukhari but he says it is nothing to do with him.  Same thing happened a few years ago on their MPACUK forum at http://forum.mpacuk.org/

For the sake of completeness, I will send an email to

info@mpacuk.org

though I imagine that they will, just like Dominic Groves of the Today Programme, continue to ignore my repeated requests for an explanation and evidence that I have transgressed their rules, whatever they are.  
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Sunday, 9 January 2011

Muslims urgently need a PR Officer as their unpopularity grows



http://thebattlefieldoflove.blogspot.com/2011/01/jack-straws-easy-meat-comment-muslims.html

"Hatred of Muslims and Islam is becoming more and more commonplace - what are you going to do to stop it?" asks MPACUK on Facebook at http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=488111231172&set=a.484672296172.262217.83217536172






Claire Khaw
You need decent PR done for you by someone who is not a Muslim but understands Islam, Muslims, Islamophobia and knows the Koran, like me.



And you also need to be prepared to admit that campaigns like the one at http://www.inspiredbymuhammad....com/ is just counter-productive, ignorant and irritating.

Muslim Public Affairs Committee UK (MPACUK) ‎@ Claire: Yeah I'm confused too as to how that website is a "counter-productive, ignorant and irritating" campaign?


Claire Khaw Because people are just as Islamophobic, aren't they?

In other words, it was just a waste of time and money.
Claire Khaw
You need someone with an Islamophobic perspective to get the message right. I talk to Islamophobes all the time - quite a few of them are my FB friends. That campaign showed quite clearly a woeful ignorance about the state of mind of the typical Islamophobe.





They hate you because they *want* to hate you, because you are many, visible and alien.





Otherwise, they would have to hate *themselves* .

Abdullah Al Andalusi of Muslim Debate Initiative (MDI) even commented on his Facebook wall that I had "hit the nail on the head" with my analysis of the situation, but he subsequently deleted it.  



Avais Qureshi Claire, I'm interested in what you think would get rid of Islamophobia. Would you mind elaborating?


Zoe Chase
When I look at MPACUK I see a group which is attempting to draw attention to Muslim grievances in Britain, Palestine, the former Yugoslavia, and Pakistan. These four political regions involve vastly different circumstances with no publicall...y understandable causal links between what is going on in the four separate regions. ''Islamphobia'' is a social problem in Britain but it would be absurd to describe what is going on in Bosnia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Palestine as ''Islamphobia''.






Beginning in the mid 90s Bosnians were victims of ethnic cleansing by Christian Serbs who were motivated by a greater Serbian nationalistic agenda which was supported by Russia. America intervened militarily to halt the abuse and murder of Bosnians and today the Americans use their military protection of Bosnians to misrepresent the USA as protectors of Muslims. In this way America distracts attention from their vast financial support for the abuse and murder of Palestinians by the Israeli Defence Forces. Muslims in and around Pakistan are being killed by American Drones but the America operates in and around Pakistan with the consent of Pakistani Government who are allied with America against the Taliban. If MPACUK is against American military activity in Pakistan then MPACUK is also against the government of Pakistan.






We understand that the Americans have a self-serving definition of ''terrorism'', i.e. when Muslims do it then it's call ''terrorism'', but when Americans to it then it's called ''anti-terrorism''. The Group Name ''MPACUK'' mimics the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee. AIPAC has a coherent message in America because AIPAC represents the Nationalist Aims of Israel, but this group MPACUK is lumping together difference people in different countries who are doing different things for different reasons. This Group lacks any coherent message because totally different problems are being lumped together under the bandwagon banner of ''Islamphobia''.









I am not offering help to MPACUK because I do not have knowledge of the Koran. I only have knowledge of the Israeli/American abuse of Palestinians as shown in the 32 images with text and links in my album at this link http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=51035&id=1640467141 Claire has knowledge of the Koran and Claire has the ability to present Islam to non-Muslims, so I suggest MPACUK takes any advice Claire is offering because the existing public relations message from MPACUK is incoherent therefore MPACUK will have no effect on your target audience who are non-Muslims.
Claire Khaw


Avais, non-Muslim Europeans fear and hate Muslims because the sheer number of Muslims in their land reminds them of their helplessness. They have also invaded two Muslim countries and must have an apprehension that Muslims cannot like them for their foreign policy.









There was a time when the West was a happier place for Westerners and this was a time when they were not troubled by the presence of Muslims.









It is easier for them to hate Muslims because Muslims are many and visible and alien instead of asking themselves why they have so many Muslims in their country when they don't even like them.









Only when it can be shown that Islam is useful and helpful to them will they stop hating you.






I have my Secular Koranism idea which they might just like if presented carefully and gently.



Zoe Chase
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Websites like http://www.inspiredbymuhammad.com/ are very good in the eyes of Muslims but in the eyes of westerners such websites only present Muslims as having an unsophisticated revivalist religious fervour which further alienates Westerners from Muslims.





As Muslims you belong to a separate culture which is completely different from the culture of the Westerners you are trying to persuade. This makes Muslims blind to the cross-cultural subtleties which are involved. How can we convince you that Muslims should not trust their own judgment about the best method for communicating with the non-Muslims which Muslims need to persuade?
 
Adnan Ramzan @ Zoe, what's your point ?

Zoe Chase
‎@Adnan Ramzan. Quoting Claire from above, ''Your campaign shows a woeful ignorance about the state of mind of the typical Islamophobe. You need someone with an Islamophobic perspective to get the message right. You need decent PR done for you by someone who is not a Muslim but who understands Islam, Muslims, Islamophobia, and who knows the Koran.''






MPACUK is presently incapable of persuading Islamophobes to see how Islam can be useful and helpful to them, so Claire has offered herself by saying, ''I have my Secular Koranism idea which they might just like if presented carefully and gently.''






Adnan Ramzan, my point is that Claire is 100% correct. The MPACUK message is too important to be left in the hands of enthusiastic amateurs. MPACUK should convene a meeting to formally appoint Claire Khaw as the professional controller of MPACUK's PR. That is my point.



Claire Khaw It would get HUGE publicity, Adnan, just because of who I am and the party I belong to.



I am thinking of using the designs at http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=12922&id=100001102239731&fbid=126933724020035 for the poster campaign.



Claire Khaw
Just to say that Abdullah Al Andalusi (also on Facebook and whom I have met on a few occasions) the Speaker and Director of Muslim Debate Initiative thinks I have hit the nail on the head as regards why Muslims are so hated.








If you do decide to use me, my appointment would be very controversial indeed, but I think that would be a Good Thing as far as the campaign is concerned.
 



 Zoe Chase
Through her party associations Claire has publically placed herself in the direct path of ethnic political prejudices and over the three years I've known Claire, she has consistently demonstrated her special talent for bringing dignified rationality to even the MOST controversial subjects, which makes things extremely difficult for her detractors. Claire's professional legal background make her a 'safe pair of hands' and she is an accomplished public speaker/debater whose energy and commitment are not doubted by anyone. Claire's thoroughly modern approach to gender and ethnicity together with her well-developed ideas of 'Secular Koranism', offers MPACUK a very powerful method for dismantling irrational Islamophobic attitudes in the minds of the non-Muslims who are MPACUK's target audience. Without Claire Khaw MPACUK will remain incapable of communicating the message that Islam makes Muslims valuable to British secular society.
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Wednesday, 17 November 2010

Asghar Bukhari of MPAC defriends me for saying Muslims MUST and SHOULD continue to protest offensively against the war

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asghar_Bukhari

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Public_Affairs_Committee_UK

Asghar Bukhari has defriended me on Facebook because I said that anti-war protests must necessarily be offensive to work and that Muslims Against Crusaders  were doing a good job really.  No pain, no gain and all that.  

I suggested that MAC would do better for themselves if they pretended they cared about white working class British soldiers being sent to Afghanistan to die for Israel, Bush, Blair, Brown and Cameron and all the warmongering MPs who voted to invade Iraq and Afghanistan.  Instead of the MAC calling British soldiers murderers, rapists etc who deserve to roast in hell, they should instead express their deep concern that these soldiers are dying for a lost and dishonorable cause which is in any case against the British National Interest and invite the BNP to join them in protesting against the war. 

It could be pointed out to the Wootton Bassetters by MAC in slightly more emollient tones that dying in a dishonorable and disgraceful unwinnable war is far far worse than converting to Islam in prison after having been court martialled for mutinying.. 



Asghar response was:

"Claire what are you on about? If you think that faking it is the best wat forward you have serious problems."
and then he defriended me without waiting for an answer. 

I just wonder what's so wrong about that though.

Understandably Muslims are nervous about being hated even more than they are already, but if the war carries on and the MAC carry on the way they have been doing, the hatred against Muslims would rage more ferociously anyway. 

It does seem that Roshanara Choudhry (is she any relation of Anjem's, I wonder?) has probably done us all a favour by stabbing Stephen Timms.  If more of them are stabbed, this would make it more likely for for MPs who voted for the war at


http://www.naba.org.uk/CONTENT/TheAssociation/Parliament/MPs_Vote_War_on_Iraq.pdf

to express remorse, regret and recant, like Clare Short.

Once enough of them do - whether out of genuine remorse or because they fear for their lives - our boys will be home sooner with less loss of life.  Once the war ends, there will be no more Wootton Bassett coffin drive-bys for the MAC to attend in order to provoke the local populace, and Muslims will not be quite so hated. 

Will someone please tell me exactly what is wrong with this piece reasoning?

Sometimes you have to keep pushing at something until it gives.  Half measures are just a waste of time.
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Tuesday, 16 June 2009

Muslims and the Mainstream

I had a rather strained conversation with Tarik of MPACUK who was getting cross with me for going on about direct democracy.

a) He thought I was not taking no for an answer, which I guess is always annoying.

b) He must have been irritated that I thought that perhaps he did not understand what it was.

Having established that he did know what it was but still did not want it, I asked the reason why.

The answer was that Muslims want to integrate and did not want to ask for weird and wonderful things such as direct democracy, even if it is in accordance with Koranic principles, ie 3:159.

Annoyingly, because he was being rather cross with me, I forgot to ask him this:
Were direct democracy generally accepted by the majority, would Muslims like him embrace it?

Silly me, but he got me a bit flustered when he was being so snippy.

Perhaps I can get the answer from him one of these days, when he has gotten over his irritation with me.

I thought it was a very good sign of Muslims wishing to integrate, however, even if it does not suit my particular agenda, which is of course to popularise and universalise the appeal of direct democracy.
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