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Showing posts with label Germaine Greer. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Germaine Greer. Show all posts

Thursday, 29 March 2018

Melanie Phillips and Germaine Greer made the most sense but still lost the debate: this means most feminists are immune to reason and cannot be trusted to be fair




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Tuesday, 20 March 2018

Transcript and commentary of Germaine Greer being interviewed by Mishal Husain on the subject of career rapees #MeToo

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09vyvt2  From 2:21

http://www.howtoacademy.com/conferences/metoo-movement-gone-too-far-debate

Mishal Husain:
The Me Too Movement has gone too far - an assertion that will be debated tonight at an event in London. The writer and feminist professor Germaine Greer will be arguing for the motion.  She has previously said in relation to Harvey Weinstein: "If you spread your legs because he said 'Be nice to me and I'll give you a job in a movie' then that is tantamount to consent and it is too late to start whingeing. She's in our radio car now. Good  morning.  In what way do you think Me Too has gone too far?



 Germaine Greer:


I don't actually think it's gone too far. I don't think it's got anywhere at all. We're still in the situation where you've got a storm of allegations about Weinstein, the collapse of his business and this isn't what we need. What we need is to sort out the law regarding rape and to sort out our concept of what it is, and it is pointless now to bring up all this stuff when with most of it no action will be taken because of the statute of limitations. Why wait 20 years?


Mishal Husain:
The reason why I phrased the question that way is because you will be arguing in favour of the motion that the Me Too Movement has gone too far tonight.
 

Germaine Greer:

Well, that's what the public has been told. I've pleaded with John Gordon not to do that because I don't think it's gone too far and I don't think we should be debating as if we all disagree. What's clear to me is that the law regarding rape does not work and people's concept of what is rape are very confused: some people think it's a crime of violence when violence is not necessarily involved at all.



Mishal Husain:

I want to come to your views on rape in just a moment because I know you are writing a book on that subject at the moment, but let's just stick to the Me Too Movement and what we have learned from that because there is a whole range of behaviours that is being called out under that hashtag and through that movement.  What is the problem with that? Is there any problem with people calling out behaviour that is inappropriate as well as unlawful?



Germaine Greer:

I'm the person who would call it when it happened and wouldn't have been sitting around being quiet and keep a secret which wasn't even a secret when it came to Weinstein, for example. People knew about it. A wire had been used in an interview with an actress who had been with Weinstein which was in the possession of the New York Police. It is extraordinary that the industry kept quiet.



Mishal Husain:

It doesn't mean that everyone who went to see him would have been aware of the existence of a tape like that. What I'm wondering is whether you think there has been something valuable in Me Too encouraging people to do exactly what you say you have always been able to do which is make a fuss about things like that when they happen?



 Germaine Greer:
Do I think it's valuable now? I'm not sure. I thought the Golden Globe's performance where everyone wore black was amazingly stagey and contrived when you've got a real situation. The Me Too name itself comes from a movement that existed from the turn of the century in the South where I think you've got something like 700,000 agricultural workers who'd been seriously sexually assaulted and it's Tarana Burke who invented the name which she then found taken and used for showbiz. There is an aspect of the whole performance which is ballyhoo and Hollywood. The whole thing about it, the whole extraordinary exposure to so many in the case of Weinstein is 84 complainants who had opportunities to speak out some of whom have been paid six figure sums in the form of non-disclosure agreements. That's a dishonourable thing to accept, and it's not something you should boast about. It also happens to be legally binding.



Mishal Husain:

But Me Too is much broader, isn't it, than those 84 accusers of one particular man. It's about women all over the world feeling that they can say things which were previously ignored or for which there were serious repercussions and it has helped them articulate and be listened to.



 Germaine Greer:

Well, I hope that's the case if indeed it is. I'm not sure because what's happened in the case of Weinstein's assistant Zelda Perkins is that she was put through absolute hell when she tried to get some sort of redress, her whole life was taken over, I mean, the amount of legal muscle that will be used to defend these people is massive, and I am concerned for damage limitation rather than maximisation, rather than wrecking people's lives, so they become career rapees, as it were. We have cases which concern rather more, I might say, of what's been happening on American campuses in the last few years and now we have had the Dear Colleague Letter that made it mandatory for universities to investigate complaints of sexual abuse that has been rescinded for the very good reason that it didn't work. None of the things we are doing actually work to protect women from abuse.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/20790/betsy-devos-correct-rescind-dear-colleague-letter-elliott-hamilton

Mishal Husain:

So what are you saying will work then, what are you advocating?



 Germaine Greer:
[Sardonic laugh] That's a good question. Well, I'm actually interested in what's going on, I mean, I'm interested in the fact that Sweden, for example, has a much wider spectrum on sexual abuse than the rest of Europe, but the result is that Sweden has three times the number of rape cases of any country in Europe, of 35 countries in Europe. [Reminder: the sluttier the women, the higher the number of rape complaints. We all know how infamously promiscuous Scandinavian women are too, do we not?]



 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sweden-and-denmark-have-highest-number-of-sexual-assaults-in-europe-a6800901.html

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/jan/05/julian-assange-sex-crimes-anonymity

Mishal Husain:

Are you saying that's a good thing or a bad thing?



 Germaine Greer:

Well, it's not over. We haven't got to a conclusion. We are going to have to examine the whole category of sexual abuse and we are going to have to understand what the relative gravity of these offences is, I mean, what they did on campuses in America was lighten the degree of proof that had to be alleged [Germaine Greer means lower the standard of proof] so it became "the preponderance of evidence by 51%". I don't think you can do that. You can't undermine civil liberties in order to get some sort of a conviction. It won't have any effect on the figures.



Mishal Husain:

When you said recently that "My feeling is that we should ditch rape altogether as a crime because it is hopeless," did you mean that?


 Germaine Greer:

Well, I didn't mean we should make sexual assault legal. The actual crime of rape itself is a medieval survival and it deals with the stealing of a woman from her menfolk. Well, we don't even accept that concept now so now it turns on consent and that means you've got a narrative from the woman, a narrative from the man, and you've got to believe one or the other. Can you put someone away for seven years, or more, depending? The penalties for rape are huge when callous and indifferent treatment of women that is very damaging to their self-esteem is practically universal and certainly diurnal as it happens to all kinds of relationships.



 Mishal Husain:

I'm still not sure what you are actually advocating as rape exists as a crime all over the world and there is a process of evidence that is undertaken in order to establish the principle of consent. What is wrong with that?



 Germaine Greer:

What's wrong with it is that it doesn't work. We work out very few cases in England out of the total number of rape reports ...



 Mishal Husain:
Convictions, you mean.



Germaine Greer:

... a tiny percentage of them. No, no, I mean they don't even get to court, but also rape doesn't occur in the context of court and prison - it's a part of every day life - and we have to understand the way that it works within heterosexual relationships.



Mishal Husain:

[Audibly sighing with relief at the end of this interview that she no longer has to unpick what Germaine Geeer is trying to say for the benefit of listeners or ask "How does rape work within heterosexual relationships?"] Germaine Greer, thank you very much.




MY PROPOSALS ON HOW TO CONDUCT RAPE TRIALS AND WHAT PUNISHMENT TO METe OUT TO WOMEN MAKE MALICIOUS AND FALSE RAPE ACCUSATIONS




How extremes meet: what Roosh the PUA proposes resembles khalwa ie sharia law

Potential money-making scheme for slags participating in gangbangs at the expense of the UK taxpayer

The BNP, Jim Dowson, Shelley Rose and Khalwat

How to solve the problem of rape complaints

How to deal with false rape allegations

A suggested new way of conducting rape trials under feminazi DPP's new rule that accused must prove complainant consented

Men: every time you shag a neurotic drunken malicious slut who claims she can't remember why she had sex with you, you may cost the taxpayer £11,000

What to do with women convicted of making false rape accusations

Is the average juror getting stupider and stupider even as the rules that make a fair trial more likely are done away with by PC libtards and feminists?
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Wednesday, 18 January 2017

Transgenderism and theocracy

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/dec/08/chelsea-manning-transgender-secret-us-army

Transgender people get forgiven more easily and get more rights, it seems. Isn't it interesting that transgender people are treated as if they are suffering from diminished responsbility?
There should be a pronoun for male to female transgender people (HMER) and another for female to male (HERM).

Chelsea Manning should be referred to as HMER.

Examples of Use

Q: Whose handbag is this?
A: It is HMERS.

Q: Whose Y-fronts are these?
A: They are HERMS.

Q: Who was the happy couple?
A: It was HMER and HERM.

Transgender people are mentally ill. Soon, they will make non-transgender people mentally ill too trying to correctly use the right pronoun and being sued, ostracised, sacked and perhaps even jailed over using the wrong pronoun.

It was feminism that declared men and women to be equal. This eventually made men want to cut off their penises to claim feminine privilege and get lots of sex without having to even buy a drink. Initially, women regarded this phenomenon as flattering, since it is obviously a big deal to cut off your penis to become a woman, and imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. This was eventually however resented by Arch-Feminists Germaine Greer and Julie Bindel who claimed that men cannot claim feminine privilege even if they feel themselves to be really women, wear women's clothes, or even if they looked like women. They were however condemned for being intolerant and transphobic. Now we see the children of the revolution being devoured by it.

But how did this lunacy start? By conceding the objective (having male or female sex organs) to the subjective (whether a person identifies as male or female) and having this reflected in official documents such as passports and birth certificates.

This has the consequence of confusing vulnerable adolescents who already have difficulty deciding who they are, could be or want to be by appearing to widen the range of possible identity options to such an extent that it was intellectually and emotionally disorientating and overwhelming. Imagine yourself sitting for a multiple choice examination when you expected to have only four options ie A to D to choose from, suddenly widened into A to Z, but to be completed in the same period of time. (It would be the same period of time because in real life we only have a limited lifespan to make what we can of our lives.) You would despair, wouldn't you, and then go mad and kill yourself probably.

Imagine also, how quickly you would go mad if every time you looked at yourself in the mirror it was always a different person looking back at you.

Imagine most men being househusbands staying safely at home painting their nails and going to the pub while women performed the worst and most menial heavy forms of manual work, being sewer workers and dustwomen, or dying in their millions on battlefields, utterly failing to rape and pillage the enemy and instead being captured and gang-raped themselves.

And so, that is my story of how and why the West went mad, and committed suicide.

That does not mean all Westerners will commit suicide and die, however, only their degenerate liberal democracy, which will be replaced by Islam, obviously. The opposite of this gender-confused and gender-confusing dementia is of course social conservatism, patriarchy, clearly demarcated gender roles for the purpose of efficiency and a general belief in God leading to the logical conclusion of a one-party theocracy led by an alpha male - like Donald Trump perhaps - that I have been advocating for years.
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Saturday, 24 October 2015

Feminists hoist by their own petard when they say men cannot be women

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3287810/Germaine-Greer-accuses-Caitlyn-Jenner-wanting-steal-limelight-female-Kardashians.html

The petition, which was started on Change.org by Rachael Melhuish, women's officer at Cardiff University students' union, alleged Greer has 'demonstrated misogynistic views towards trans women, including continually misgendering trans women and denying the existence of transphobia altogether'.

1. You cannot be guilt of misogyny if the people you are supposed to hate are not even women.

2.  Someone born with a penis can never be a woman and someone born with a vagina can never be a man. The reasons are rooted in biology. Males have XY chromosomes and females have XX chromosomes.

3.  Saying someone who is not a woman is not a woman is not hating them. It is only telling the truth and telling the truth may cause people who want to deny the truth to hate you.

4. Why is the state or anyone telling us whom we may not hate?

5. Telling people they cannot hate you is very likely to make them hate you.




The question Kirsty Wark should have asked Germaine Greer:

"If gender is indeed a construct then surely a man doesn't need to have a vagina to become a woman? He just needs to feel that he is a woman and have the outward appearance of a woman convincing enough to make other men think he is a woman and/or want to have sex with him under the impression that he is female."

On this matter, it would appear that the trans have the upper hand in this argument, if it is the case that gender is merely a construct ie our assigned gender roles are imposed on us by society which we are free to transcend at will. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_construction_of_gender_difference

That would have been the really interesting question for Kirsty Wark to ask, so it was really too bad she missed this golden opportunity. It would be fun to hear Julie Bindel attempt to answer it too.


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Monday, 30 September 2013

The wisest thing a BNP member said about Muslims and Islamophobia after attending an MPACUK conference

Asghar Bukhari



http://www.mpacuk.org/story/020913/what-missing-muslim-story.html

http://www.mpacuk.org/story/020913/how-did-our-ummah-go-greatness-genocide.html

Jeffrey Marshall of the BNP:

"The pretence that Muslims and left-lberals see eye to eye is really a nauseating conceit. Islamists are basically conservative (they would have to be if they followed the Koran) and they should openly support family values - not just keep their mouths shut over things like gay marriage. 

One bad impression I got from MPACUK's recent meeting in Barking was that Muslims are really only concerned for their own interests as a kind of pressure group - in this respect they are no different from Stonewall or feminists or Scottish Nationalists. Just as long as their interests are protected they don't much care what others do. 

It is almost as though they don't really see this as their own country - which is not really surprising, I guess. However, nationalists are at least concerned with the state of our nation as a whole. If Muslims were to be less concerned only with themselves, they could help us rebuild a decent country."

This is how I see it:


  1. Feminism is against religion, because religion is patriarchal.  Have you noticed that Judaism is a bit racist, or that Christianity and Islam are just a bit sexist and homophobic?  
  2. Feminism is also against Nationalism, because Nationalism is patriarchal.  
  3. Feminism is against social conservatism, because it promotes female promiscuity. 
  4. Social conservatism is now so marginalised it only exists fitfully in the BNP and UKIP and is constantly being salami-sliced away by their cowardly leaders.  
  5. The BNP and UKIP are afraid to question or criticise feminism because they fear alienating half their potential voters.  
  6. Most British women are sluts ie fornicatresses who have extramarital sex and most British men are MCSFs  (Morally-Compromised Slut Fuckers).  This makes the children of these sluts and MCSFs bastards.  You cannot do much with people like that without a rigorous and radical programme of moral regeneration, and this would probably involve something as revolutionary as an Islamic Revolution.  
  7. MPACUK ought to promote Secular Koranism (ie the idea of infusing the UK legal system with Koranic principles without converting a single soul and leaving the judiciary who do not have to be Muslim to interpret the laws), but they fear to tread in the territory of Anjem Choudary who commends Sharia law to the horrified British.  
  8. Most Muslims are afraid to challenge feminism because they fear being hated more than they are already.  
  9. The Sacred Cows of the British are: (a) The Welfare State (b) Feminism (c) SSMs https://www.facebook.com/pages/Are-Spinster-Single-Mums-a-burden-on-the-state/417696111659379 
  10. Even now men fear to read Simon Sheppard's Sex and Power available at http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sex-Power-Manual-Male-Female-Relations/dp/190124024X/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1380704391&sr=1-1&keywords=simon+sheppard+sex+and+power which is the male equivalent of The Female Eunuch explaining their oppression.  
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Saturday, 13 September 2008

Female of the Species by Joanna Murray-Smith

A review of it can be found at http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2008/07/17/btfemale117.xml

of this funny, sharp, relevant and wise satire on feminism as an ideology.

Echoing the life voyages of the likes of Germaine Greer and Fay Weldon, the stages of feminist thought can be summarised as follows:

Women must free themselves from the yoke of man-made restrictions - Phase 1

Women must become like men to free themselves, ie have careers and sexual freedom, earn money, and no longer be in the home - Phase 2

Women should therefore abandon their traditional path of fulfilment and empowerment, ie marriage and motherhood - Phase 3

Women must acknowledge their failure to become happier after abandoning marriage and motherhood, or acknowledge that marriage, motherhood and career is the privilege of that rare being, the highly motivated and talented time-manageress - Phase 4

Women should re-embrace their traditional roles and once again become happy and fulfilled feminine beings -Phase 5

Men, those who are protectors and providers, should be treated with respect and tenderness because they too are vulnerable creatures saddled with the additional burden of not being allowed to show their vulnerability - Phase 6

The feminist and post-feminist journey is analogous to going right round the earth and finding the very thing you sought, in your own backyard. It was nevertheless a journey that had to be made.

The moral to be extracted from all this?

Pleasing oneself is an exercise that always remains tantalisingly unfinished.

Therefore pleasing others and fulfilling the roles that we naturally find ourselves in is the path most likely to lead to lasting happiness.

The love of others obtained through the sacrifice of our selfish pleasures is a greater measure of our worth than our ability to continue enjoying selfish pleasures.

Duty, though dull, is therefore in our long-term self-interest and most likely to result in self-fulfilment and long-term happiness - a happy paradox!
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