Is the Abrahamic God a Supreme Singularity or a Trinitarian Bundle of Three?

Mohammed Hijab investigates Trinitarianism

The absurdity of the Trinity is that Christians are required to believe that an executed revolutionary is the co-equal of the Abrahamic God in order to be Christian. This is clearly idolatry.  http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=4&verse=116

Mohammed should be grateful that Christians no longer take their religion seriously. Those who think themselves Christian are not Christian, but are too theologically ignorant to know this, like the Archbishop of Canterbury.

https://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.com/2014/09/what-is-point-of-having-archbishop-of.html

Otherwise, to "win" the argument, Christians might burn you at the stake or conduct the Inquisition or invoke the Blasphemy Act 1697.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_Act_1697

Michael Servetus was burned at the stake for denying the Trinity.  https://www.christianity.com/church/church-history/timeline/1501-1600/michael-servetus-burned-for-heresy-11629984.html

Islamophobes might have some of their fears allayed knowing that quran.com/2/56 guarantees freedom of belief and is believed by some to be the basis of the First Amendment. 

The First Amendment was derived from the Koran

Why Islam would be more effective than Christianity in maintaining morality and social cohesion

@WhenIRunAust @ntfem @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda You'll find the Koran Borrows Liberally from Old Testament & Bastardizes It.
— SirTweetsALot (@JDSon78) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @WhenIRunAust @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda Judaism/Thesis, Christianity/Antithesis, Islam/Synthesis.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@ntfem @WhenIRunAust @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda I think you need mental help.
— SirTweetsALot (@JDSon78) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda What makes you say that?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @WhenIRunAust @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda The Koran improves on the Bible.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@ntfem @WhenIRunAust @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda Yeah, no. Nice try though.
— SirTweetsALot (@JDSon78) February 18, 2015

@ntfem @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda You Tell Me. You Seem Very Pro Koran. Why?
— SirTweetsALot (@JDSon78) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda It is over for Christianity - Christianity is kaput.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@ntfem @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda Not Likely.
— SirTweetsALot (@JDSon78) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda Most Xtians who don't believe in the Trinity would be angry if the Pope said he didn't.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda Xtianity is the religion of the people who want to spread gay marriage around the world.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@ntfem @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda Factually Inaccurate. You are thinking of American Left.
— SirTweetsALot (@JDSon78) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda It is my view that Islam is the most advanced Abrahamic faith.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@ntfem @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda 7th Century Thinking is not advanced.
— SirTweetsALot (@JDSon78) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda If Islam is the most advanced Abrahamic faith, then Christianity is less advanced.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda The Achilles heel of Christianity is the Doctrine of the Trinity which is an absurdity.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

Voltaire: “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition

@ntfem @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda Kinda hard to be a hindrance when the trinity works.
— SirTweetsALot (@JDSon78) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda Probably, even the Pope does not believe in the Trinity, but pretends he does.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@ntfem @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda The Pope is a Lefty at Heart.
— SirTweetsALot (@JDSon78) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda If the Pope ever said he did not believe in the Trinity, he would be out of a job.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda Most Xtians who don't believe in the Trinity would be angry if the Pope said he didn't.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@ntfem @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda Nice Try. Thanks for playing. Have a Good Day.
— SirTweetsALot (@JDSon78) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda There is a reason why Christianity and Hypocrisy go hand in hand.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda Second most powerful church in the world after Catholic Church is the Church of England.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda The Archbishop of Canterbury doesn't even know he is supposed to believe in the Trinity.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

What is the point of having an Archbishop of Canterbury who is not even Christian?

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda If you don't believe Jesus is God you are not Christian and only Christians go to heaven
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda Probably, having to believe in absurdities makes people stupid, hypocritical n cowardly.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda The Koran is conceptually stronger than the Bible cos it is believed 2b the Word of God.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda The Koran is the result of having taken dictation from God in Arabic. Literally.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda It has to be remembered that both Jews and Muslims deny the Trinity.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda Many Xtians so theologically ignorant they don't know they have 2 believe in the Trinity
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda If you have trouble believing in God, the mountain of the Trinity would be beyond you.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda Although the Koran denies the Trinity, it affirms the Virgin Birth, displaying wisdom.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda A virgin birth is in theory possible, apparently. http://t.co/YdE5gZI6Zb
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda Unlike Christianity, Islam does not rely on a corruptible clergy to spread its message.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda The reason why Christianity has failed is because its clergy is now utterly corrupted.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda Some of u may have noticed how Christianity now is indistinguishable from PC Liberalism.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda The Church of England was created by Henry VIII to be a creature of the state.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda It used to be said that the Conservative Party was the Church of England at prayer.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda If the Conservative Party is now the party of gay marriage, what is the C of E like?
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda Archbishop of Canterbury knows African Muslims kill African Xtians cos of gay marriage.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda Justin Welby made very clear he didn't care Africans Xtians were being killed by Muslims
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

New Archbishop of Canterbury has already gone native

Liberal-Feminist Theologian Linda Woodhead and her associates sneer at the idea of the Anglican Church promoting non-liberal morality

Archbishop of Canterbury and Cardinal Nicholls displaying the intellectual and moral bankruptcy of modern Christianity

Does the Archbishop of Canterbury think the state religion of Britain is PC Libtardism?

Why did Meriam Ishag sacrifice so much for Christianity - the religion of white people who despise Christians?

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda Africans refusing to give up Christianity are dying for nothing. Soon more will know.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

@JDSon78 @ChristieC733 @RedNationRising @WayneBogda Islam replaces a corruptible clergy with the Koran we are supposed to turn into law.
— Claire Khaw (@ntfem) February 18, 2015

And then he blocked me.

Victor Shannock, a Catholic, appears to say that those who deny the Trinity are the antichrist

http://biblelight.net/antichrist_and_jesus.htm

This means Christians regard Jews and Muslims collectively as the antichrist.

Is it not time to defenestrate this intolerant, irrational and totalitarian religion from Western civilisation?

As I have already said, the last service the Pope of Catholicism can do for mankind is to renounce usury, apologise for the hypocrisy of Christianity and convert to Islam in order to become the Pope of Islam.

The doctrine of the Trinity is clearly evil since it was this belief that started the Inquisition.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition

Those denying the Trinity were deprived of the benefit of the Act of Toleration, 1689. The Blasphemy Act 1697 enacted that if any person, educated in or having made profession of the Christian religion, should by writing, preaching, teaching or advised speaking, deny that the members of the Holy Trinity were God, or should assert that there is more than one god, or deny the Christian religion to be true, or the Holy Scriptures to be of divine authority, he should, upon the first offence, be rendered incapable of holding any office or place of trust, and for the second incapable of bringing any action, of being guardian or executor, or of taking a legacy or deed of gift, and should suffer three years imprisonment without bail.

An Act of 1812-1813 excepted from these enactments persons denying as therein mentioned respecting the Holy Trinity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law_in_the_United_Kingdom

That was the kind of thing Christians used to do when they took their religion seriously.

Now that they no longer taken their religion seriously, you have Catholics priests and MPs promoting gay marriage together with Rowan Williams the Commie Pinko former-Archbishop of Canterbury.

Only a Christian chauvinist who has read the Koran would continue to insist that the Bible is a better rule book than the Koran.

@1party4all there is no free grace - no salvation offered in Islam, from the standpoint of the Cross Muhammed was a false prophet
— victorshannock (@victorshannock) February 18, 2013

@1party4all you may find this interesting re the New Testament teaching on those who deny the incarnation - biblelight.net/antichrist_and… …
— victorshannock (@victorshannock) February 18, 2013

If none of the papabili can bring themselves to renounce usury, then we will know once and for all  the rotten state of the Catholic Church.

Victor Shannock claims that I have been misrepresenting his views at:

I have had to block @1partyforall who has been grossly misrepresenting my views on the incarnation and the antichrist, & been spamming
— victorshannock (@victorshannock) February 19, 2013

How so?

He has blocked me so he does not have to explain.   I have not misrepresented his views at all, and taken care to quote him verbatim.  His own words are enough to condemn him.  Remember, it was not Jews or Muslims who started the Inquisition nor was it they who conducted the Crusades.

Very interestingly, he has deleted his tweets.

Christians equate Christ with God. No wonder their religion is failing.

http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/death-of-god.html

Just think: they equate their God with a failed revolutionary they decided to worship as a deity.

Not one Christian can honestly explain the Doctrine of the Trinity without ceasing to be a Christian.

Do you think the Pope or the Archbishop of Canterbury or York believe in the Doctrine of the Trinity?  Do they hell. What they are doing is paying lip service.

Do as I say, not as I do, they will say to you, when you have revealed their unbelief.

Have you noticed how Christians start looking shifty the moment you ask them about the Trinity? You should try it and see.  

The only reason why Christians believe Christ is God is because they don't want to do the hard work a Jew needs to do to remain a Jew and because they despise Muslims, who, like the Jews deny the Trinity and abhor the idea of a divine prophet.  

"It is a weakness of human nature to hate those whom you have wronged."     

http://quotationsbook.com/quote/18667/

How have Christians wronged Jews and Muslims?

Let me count the ways: the Inquisition, Crusades, the turfing out Muslim Arabs to make way for the Jews they have been persecuting for centures in Christian Europe in their ignorant and arrogant antisemitism.   In other words, robbing Peter Arab to pay Paul Jew.  

As for those who call themselves Christians but don't know they have to believe that Christ is God or else go to hell - because if you don't believe that you ain't Christian and all non-Christians go to hell, doncha know -  I only have pity for you and your ignorance.

Actually, only the non-white non-cultural Christian truly understands the nature of this bargain unlike the ignoramuses who think they are Christians because they are not Jews or Muslims (whom they despise), and call themselves Cultural Christians.  (That is why these Oriental converts and evangelists are always proclaiming Christ is Lord to all and sundry in that annoying way, to show everyone else that they believe, even if deep down inside they do not.) These Cultural Christians never enter a church save when they are called upon to attend a wedding.  They know they feel comfort a the sight of a church spire and feel alarm and distress when they see a minaret, and that is what makes them Christian, they think to themselves.  

Or they might go to church for a bit, until their children get into the church school of their choice, because they cannot afford school fees.

What else do these disgusting Christians do?

They pretend to eat the flesh of Christ and drink the blood of Christ like some cannibal who thinks that eating a dead human being, especially one that they also think is God, will give them special powers. Yep, that is what Christians call Communion and the Eucharist, don't you know.

What was it Hitler said about telling a big enough lie?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Lie

in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying.

How can believing in a lie and making others believe in the same lie possibly make you a better person and make your society a better society if you are so hypocritical and so cowardly you never condemn anything at all, not even gay marriage?

Instead of enjoining good and forbidding evil, as the Muslims are meant to do, the Christians spend their entire lives convincing themselves of a lie while tolerating all manner of evil and waste their compassion on the worst of people because theirs is a masochistic religion for women and slaves.  

There is a reason why Christianity and Hypocrisy go together like Horse and Carriage ....  

British Jews too have gone native in the land of Unctuous PC Extremist Liberalism.  When an Orthodox Rabbi brightly suggests on Woman's Hour to Dame Jenni who calls him "Zvi" that all who wish to marry should first become civilly partnered with the option  of converting it into marriage later, you know that the stench you are smelling is the rotten corpse of Western civilisation.
http://thevoiceofreason-ann.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/most-unorthodox-orthodox-rabbi-commends.html

The mystery of the Trinity cannot be solved without ceasing to be a Christian and the time has come to disestablish the Church of England

According to Christians, Christ was more than a prophet of God, he was God Himself.

So, God seduced Mary (in the way that Zeus had a habit of doing to mortal women listed at http://devdutt.com/the-infidelities-of-zeus/), gave birth to Himself, and then sacrificed Himself to save us from our sins.

The Holy Spirit is just the agency of God (and Christ) through which miracles are accomplished, and therefore all three are one.   How can this be, you ask?  The cleverer Christian clergy would invite you to imagine a pyramid with three facets ...

The Inquisition was all about forcing people to say they believe in this SHIT.

These days, ignorant Christians don't even know they are supposed to believe in this SHIT.

The truth is that the Pope and the Archibishop of Cant doesn't either, nor does your vicar or "vicaress", who will be instantly uncomfortable the moment you ask him or her about the Trinity.

The Church will be happy if it manages to get an ignorant congregation to uncomprehendingly recite the Nicene creed.

Muslims and Jews of course deny the Trinity because they see through the SHIT that it all is, and that is why Christians hate and fear them with such visceral virulence.  Occasionally, the hatred and fear of Christians of those who do not share their Trinitarian beliefs is manifested in great events of bloodletting and persecution, eg the Crusades and the Inquisition, with a few pogroms here and there over the centuries, the most recent of which was Hitler's Madagascar Plan.

Christianity as a religion should be dumped precisely because it is both TOTALITARIAN and DIVISIVE. Once it got over being totalitarian and divisive and started being ECUMENICAL and INCLUSIVE it proved to be UTTERLY INEFFECTUAL

Charles the future king would go along with this from the sound of things.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1285332/Follow-Islamic-way-save-world-Charles-urges-environmentalists.html

If Charles had been Muslim he wouldn't have had such a hard time over Diana and Camilla, nor would Edward have suffered the loss of his throne for his love for Mrs Simpson, who might have been an OK Queen, who knows.

Actually, if Henry Tudor had been Muslim, there would have been none of the problems he had over defying Rome about finding a wife to bear him a son, the fallout of which has  resulted in centuries of religious persecution by Christians of other Christians.

And that is why I say it is time to disestablish the Church of England (which is these days full of Socialists, Commies, Liberals, Feminists and subversives like the Archbishop of Cant who have made it unfit for the purpose of instilling in the British respect for the institutions of Family and Marriage).  British Muslims in particular should not be afraid to say this.

Day 3: "Unpersonnned" by the Today Programme BBC Censor

I wonder if the BBC will allow me to respond to these slurs on me and my party.  Now that would be a test of their impartiality, would it not? 

I deny saying that the Jews brought the Holocaust on themselves.  Indeed, I am making another point that is much subtler, which is related to the causes of the Inquisition and Trinitarianism. 

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150115278798552&set=a.10150090122118552.297642.510028551&bcode=VVRiA#!/thetodayprogramme/posts/173491089358282 

27 December 2010


Bill Major

Agreed Jason. Bill Sykes -you can't find a trace of Claire Khaw because once they take your name off, it vanishes from every posting. You become a non person. Strange but true.
Caron, did you object and "Flag" her?

We are used to her wind ups, which is what they were - she knows how to wind us up but that was no reason to take her off.

Caron Kendall yes I flagged her - after the Jews brought the holocaust on themselves comments

Caron Kendall Can we also remember that Claire is not just some harmless commentator, she is a political activist for the BNP, A political party that has spread hatred and intolerance throughout inner city communities and whose philosophies if left unchallenged lead straight to the gas chamber

A brief explanation of why Christianity is inferior to Islam

Christianity was so totalitarian that Christians were horrible to anyone different to them, and were constantly disagreeing with one another about whether to be Catholic or Protestant.

It is not at all surprising that they were horrible Jews and Muslims who at least practised what they preached, while Christians thought they would go to heaven as long as they can concentrate on believing and saying that Christ is in fact God. 

After WW2, Christians gave the Jews a bit of land to make up for all those centuries of Christian persecution - especially Christian German persecution - not bothering themselves too much about the fact that the land they are giving to the Jews already had Muslims - whom they regard as an inferior people of an inferior religion - already living there.

Christianity has now become the despised religion of a despised civilisation, having now thoroughly pissed off both Jews, Muslims and the rest of the world.   

The trouble with Christianity is that, once you allowed people to speak freely, people would start questioning and then rejecting the Trinity - the doctrine that Christ is God - and throw the baby of family values out with the bathwater of the lie and hypocrisy that is the Trinity.  

Because of this inherent weakness, they necessarily had to shut up anyone who wished to question the Trinity - the Inquisition is an excellent example of how far they felt they had to go to shut people up good and proper.  


So you heard it here first: Christianity is the religion of women and slaves, ie those who are masochistic, uneducated and those who are too slavish to question anything.  


Islam on the other hand is the synthesis of Mosaic Law and Christian Compassion fused into Reason.  


While Christianity was totalitarian (ie an ideology that forbids you from expressing views contrary to its doctrines), the worst you can accuse Islam of being is authoritarian (an ideology that merely commands you to and forbids you from certain acts for your own good). 

On being accused of "extremism" by the Liberal Left

Extreme error requires extreme correction. "Extremism" is therefore relative to the error being corrected. It would be a fallacy to assume that the status quo is the perfect place to be.

What if the status quo were the Inquisition or the Cultural Revolution?

Or indeed the advanced stages of Matriarchal Dementia?

Lessons from Muslim Spain by Chris Hewer

http://stethelburgas.org/civicrm/event/info?id=76&reset=1

Chris Hewer is always entertaining and knowledgeable.

He could not however answer the question of how and why the Inquisition started and suggested that it may have been an over-solicitous and Christian concern over the souls of Jews and Muslims.

I have a little theory and is simply this. Questioning the divinity of Christ is easy-peasy. When Isabelle and Ferdinand won back Spain from the Moors, I can imagine the Jews and Muslims cheekily questioning Christ's divinity and asking all sorts of unanswerable questions about the Holy Trinity.

That was what led to the Inquisition: to teach these pesky Jews and Christians a lesson.

The Inquisition was totalitarianism writ large. Not only do you have to outwardly convert, we have to be satisfied that you inwardly convert and believe in a lie, just like we do ...